Do you ever worry about being falsely accused of rape?

[MatureDJ]

http://www.falserape.net/false-rape.htm

Half of all Rape Charges May Be False

Rape is a terrible crime. It should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But false rape charges are a troublesome reality. At least 10 percent and perhaps as many as 40 percent of all rape charges are lies. Research results In the Midwest:
· 41% of the total rape cases were recanted by the alleged victim during a 9-year study in a metropolitan Midwestern town.
·45 of the 109 complainants admitted that no rape had occurred in period.
The incidence figure (from 1978 to 1987) of false rape varied from year to year and ranged from a low of ·27% to a high of 70%

The alleged rape victims admitted that they had made the false rape charges for three reasons:
· to create an alibi,
· to get revenge,
· to get attention or sympathy.
Educated women lie, too....
· University women were as likely to file a false rape charge as a valid charge. Other reports from university police agencies support these findings (Jay, 1991). Source: Eugene J. Kanin, Ph.D., Department of Sociology and Anthropology, Purdue University, www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naa

Why women make false rape charges

· Common reasons given by women who falsely accused rape were "spite or revenge," and to compensate for feelings of guilt or shame. Source: (Forensic Science Digest, vol. 11. no. 4, December 1985).
· · False accusers were motivated by a need for an alibi or a desire for revenge in the study byEugene J. Kanin. Source: Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 23, No. 1, 1994). Kanin was once well known and lauded by the feminist movement for his groundbreaking research on male sexual aggression.
· · The need for attention: as in the case of the Detroit woman who gave police details about her rapist and his truck, then admitted she had lied: it never happened. Source: Detroit Free Press, April 21, 2004 http://www.freep.com/news/locoak/hoax21e_20050421.htmCriminal D.A. Affirms False Rape Charges


A female defense attorney saw it happen

"Not too long ago, I represented an Ivy League honor student who'd spent a weekend at a beach party coupled with a woman to whom he was introduced by a mutual friend. According to the client - and about a dozen witnesses - the two seemed to really "hit it off." When the party ended on Sunday night, they said their good-byes, like everybody else, and maybe even promised half-heartedly to call each other. "Imagine my client's surprise when on Tuesday, he received an angry call from his paramour's estranged boyfriend - a boyfriend whose existence she failed to disclose when the pair were kissing beyond the crackle of a bonfire. "Of course, this was nothing compared to his total shock when, two weeks later, he received a warrant in the mail commanding his appearance in court on felony rape charges." --Defense Attorney Jonna Spilbor Source: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20030811_spilbor.html

More:

How False Rape Charges devastate men's lives

CNN's Tucker Carlson recently wrote a book, Politicians, Partisans and Parasites, which includes an account of Carlson being falsely accused of raping a woman. Carlson describes how a false rape accusation can potentially ruin a man's life.

http://www.equityfeminism.com/archives/years/2003/000062.html · How the legal system allows women to physically abuse men http://www.batteredmen.com/index.htm
· Woman gets 9 months in false rape charge http://www.equityfeminism.com/archives/years/2003/000074.html

 

[FM 3321]

No, there are more important things in life to worry about. Plus if you're really damn good in bed she'll probably be the one to rape you.

I don't think focusing on this negative stuff helps us men get to where we want with women anyway. No wonder why so many guys are afraid to approach women. Learn to become an attractive man and they won't cry rape on you.

 

[KontrollerX]

Always wear a condom and never ever talk about sex acts you performed with a chick on the phone to avoid wiretapping recordings and all of this serves as a pretty good prevention method in itself so you need not overly worry if some b!tch tries to pull this crap on you.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Domestic violence is similar. It's an awful crime when it's real, but all too often, the woman is lying, especially when filing for divorce. Accusations of abuse get a restraining order issued right away, with no trial for the accused. I know a guy who was married 30 years, and kissed his wife goodbye when he left for work one morning as usual. When he got home, there was a county sheriff on his front step with a bag his wife had packed for him. The sheriff told him that he knew he beat his wife, she had gotten a restraining order, and he had to take his one bag of stuff and leave, or else be arrested. All of this was her lawyer's idea.

 

[decades]

nobody ever talks about the downside of "plate spinning". This is just one of them.

 

[Latinoman]

Nobody talks about the posibility of having their lives ruined by something like this.

In the U.S., if you are convicted of ANY sexual crime, you will be automatically be put in a registry for sexual offenders. By law, you will have to keep that registry updated as it has your full name and address. And that is something that is for LIFE. As forever.

I am amazed at how stupid some men are trying to "game" drunk women or women that are drinking alcohol. That's a NO-NO. The only woman I have consentual sex with when she was a little "tipsy" is the woman in my committed relationship. And I made sure it is consentual.

It is unfair to be accused of rape by a woman you had sex while she was drunk...especially if it was originally consentual. But the fact is...the law protect them.

And even if you are not accused of "rape" and it is downgraded to some other sort of sexual assault...the fact is you will still be part of that Registry (together with sexual predators and other sexual criminals).

Why risk that?

 

[mintxx]

#1 reason why you should covertly video every time you fvck a chic. one of those new sony ericsson camera phones with good quality video should do it.

defence barrister: 'did you have consensual sex with him?'
slag: 'no, no he raped me'
defence barrister: 'your honour, exhibit A. roll the tape, jenkins'

 

[MrLuvr]

#1 reason why you should covertly video every time you fvck a chic. one of those new sony ericsson camera phones with good quality video should do it.

defence barrister: 'did you have consensual sex with him?'
slag: 'no, no he raped me'
defence barrister: 'your honour, exhibit A. roll the tape, jenkins'

You are not getting the idea here. Maybe you never had sex. She can accuse you of rape even if there was no actual intercourse! How are you going to disprove that?

 

[CGE333]

I read about a case in the last week in AZ where a woman accused a man of rape and the cops but out the APB and then a few days later she recanted and said the sex was consensual. My feelings are that anyone who formally accuses someone of a crime, i.e. with the cops or in a divorce proceeding and then it comes out they were lying should be prosecuted. If it is a custody case than the lying party should immediately lose custody rights and full custody awarded to the other party.

This happens way too often and it ends up hurting the kids the most.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

You are not getting the idea here. Maybe you never had sex. She can accuse you of rape even if there was no actual intercourse! How are you going to disprove that?

That's right, I have no faith in the criminal justice system, too often a judge and jury will take the word over some lying b1tch who can hide behind a rape shield law (so her history or behaviour doens't even come into question), and hey, the she may be doing it because she's pissed the guy rejected her advances and cant handle rejection, and the courts all go and believe her despite there is no real evidence to prove any rape occurred.

The idea of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime occurred is probably undermined on allot of cases placing the onus on the defendant to disprove rather than the prosecution/plaintiff to prove.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

No, there are more important things in life to worry about. Plus if you're really damn good in bed she'll probably be the one to rape you.

I don't think focusing on this negative stuff helps us men get to where we want with women anyway. No wonder why so many guys are afraid to approach women. Learn to become an attractive man and they won't cry rape on you.

That's right, if you are already shy with women, having the perception that any woman could potentially be a legal land-mine ready to explode if you walk on it innoscently doesn't help.

 

[fresh_to_death]

I know I'm not 25, but this subject is relevant to us all. A girl I met at a pool party and messed around with the same night accused me and a friend of raping her. I didn't have sex with her, but there was heavy petting going on. My bud didn't have anything to do with her that night. well, the swat team surrounded his house the nxt morning and drew him out at gunpoint. He got to spend the day in jail. They couldn't get a positive ID on me and he wouldn't cooperate with them so I found out through word of mouth that he was in jail for rape and the law was looking for me. Oh boy...

Turned myself in, but wasn't detained. I literally laid in the bed for two and a half days. I was mentally paralyzed and drained of any emotion. On top of that two newspapers had turned the event into a ****ing circus. This crap made the front page three times in one week. The ***** came forward about three days later and fessed up, but the real damage had already been done. Missed work, emarrased by the newspaper, big time emotional stress and the kicker is she got off scot free. On top of that the police advised me and my
friend against taking action. They claimed we had no grounds for legal action.

That event pretty much made me
realize the opposite sex will never be the center of my world.

P.S - we were both stone cold sober and it was her idea to leave the party so that we could be alone.

 

[RedPill]

Turned myself in, but wasn't detained. I literally laid in the bed for two and a half days. I was mentally paralyzed and drained of any emotion. On top of that two newspapers had turned the event into a ****ing circus. This crap made the front page three times in one week. The ***** came forward about three days later and fessed up, but the real damage had already been done. Missed work, emarrased by the newspaper, big time emotional stress and the kicker is she got off scot free. On top of that the police advised me and my
friend against taking action. They claimed we had no grounds for legal action.

Wow dude, that's rough. That's one of those nightmare stories that you know happens to someone somewhere. You wouldn't happen to be a former Duke lacrosse player would you?

Since women who allege rape have their identities protected so that they won't suffer the public shame and humilation of reporting the crime, men also deserve the same protection of public shame when accused. If this can't be achieved through a better process (no arrests without direct evidence, identity protection of the accused), then there should be severe civil and criminal penalties against women convicted of false accusation. Obstruction of justice and filing a false police report misdemeanors are grossly unjust charges for the severe consequences to the falsely accused.

This type of crime should carry a mandatory minimum 10-year prison sentence.

 

[mintxx]

You are not getting the idea here. Maybe you never had sex. She can accuse you of rape even if there was no actual intercourse! How are you going to disprove that?

/edit - no i won't be an azzhole, i must restrain myself

proof of consensual intercourse around the time of the alleged offense is very, very pursuasive for the defence. Doesn't matter what she's accused you of. The 'idea' is that when asked if she had consensual sex with you, she lies to the court as per your video evidence - which is perjury. the judge can direct a jury that they cannot consider the 'sexual propensity' of the alleged victim re the defendant in considering the probity of her evidence, but that tape can also go to credibility in the immediate sense, which is still admissible and doesn't break any fundamental rules of evidence either here or in the US of A.

i'm a lawyer man, just sayin

 

[Luke Skywalker]

ITurned myself in, but wasn't detained. I literally laid in the bed for two and a half days. I was mentally paralyzed and drained of any emotion. On top of that two newspapers had turned the event into a ****ing circus. This crap made the front page three times in one week. The ***** came forward about three days later and fessed up, but the real damage had already been done. Missed work, emarrased by the newspaper, big time emotional stress and the kicker is she got off scot free. On top of that the police advised me and my
friend against taking action. They claimed we had no grounds for legal action.

Sue the police as well as her.

That event pretty much made me
realize the opposite sex will never be the center of my world.

P.S - we were both stone cold sober and it was her idea to leave the party so that we could be alone.

Wow. Again we have a case of biased prosecution. Guys are prosecuted on flimsy charges, while gals are not prosecuted at all despite a flagrant violation of the law. When stuff like this happens, it also hurts real rape victims because the credibility of the whole system is undermined badly.

Was there any indication or sign that this would happen with this particular girl?

 

[Luke Skywalker]

/edit - no i won't be an azzhole, i must restrain myself

proof of consensual intercourse around the time of the alleged offense is very, very pursuasive for the defence.

I've seen some bad crap happen in my country (Canada). A woman with NO evidence and known to commit perjury gets a guy in jail on a false rape accusation because the judge just believed her testimony.

His lawyer had to do research about her while he was jail to find out she was previously charged for some perjury or had a record of doing this. He successfully appealed and got his conviction vacated, and she got charged and got a 2 year jail sentence or something. He would have been in jail for a long time if he didn't have a zealous lawyer that digged that information for him.

To make it worst, the stupid jails are not even safe as you can get raped by inmates or gang raped. When a woman has this much power to send a guy on a false word of testimony and get some judge to sympathise with her sob story, to go jail to get butt raped (and this could just occur if you are in jail for one day) then something is seriously messed up about society.

Not all women are that bad, but when you have biased system like that it only leads to two possible scenerios, vigilantiasm if a pissed off guy with nothing to lose decides to take the law into his own hands as he is fed up with the system, and of course, real rape victims are undermined as attention wh0res.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I see the point. On fresh_to_death, the woman still recanted from her original story, no matter how much we may hate her for making up this false accusation in the first place, and this would be more difficult if there were harsher penalties as she would be penalized for telling the truth. However, she still should not get off scotch-free and some sort of criminal record or note should be made on some file that she did this (so it could be used against her if she does it again) and she should go on probation. None of these things involve jail time, but she doesn't get off scotch-free. So, you still cant send a message a woman can fvck a guy up in his life with a false charge on a whim and just get away with it as though nothing happened and think some punishment should be in place for that to make someone think twice about doing this.

I think the real question is - how do you know you can trust a girl that's not going to make a false rape charge? Lots of DJs on here, unless I'm wrong, are experiencing success with women and are appearantly happy -- some guys may have a few non-fatal STD issues, or women who dump them for no reason or friendzone them -- but they appear to be childsplay when compared to this and are generally happy (benefits outweight the risks).

I think people should know a bit more about a person -- rather than just randomly hooking up with some party girl, try to get some history about the girl from other sources, or try to know enough about her if she has been involved in the courts or law before or if she says any sign or indication that she is a basket case who could do this.

While I ain't involved in any of this -- this is one good reason not to go into a promiscious lifestyle with random hook-ups since you don't know which one may give you an STD or make a false rape charge.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Its a tough situation - something must be done to stop it, but there is no obvious solution. Maybe one day they will invent a truly accurate lie detector that's admissible in court. It would solve this problem, but I don't' even want to think about the billion other issues that would create.

Some judges are so stupid they will take the word of a lying b1tch over a lie detector. This is what even happened in the case that I referred to above.
I wish I had a reference such as a name so you could google it. But I remember when I saw the TV episode, he even told the court that he would go through a lie detector test to substantiate his defence, and the court ignored him and completely sided with the girl. If the system is rotten to the core, even a lie detector test wont help.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Its amazing this doesn't happen already, these rape shield laws go much too far.

There hasn't been a constitutional challenge on it yet?