Do women reject and/or dump artistic men?

[StevenR]

Here I am up late at night browsing posts on SS, and I came upon this post which really upset me. Most of the post is about some dude advocating beating women to keep them attracted to you, which I think, or at least hope, is complete B.S. although I do agree that many women do seem attracted to aggressive men. He also mentioned the types of men he thought women stayed with and the type that women dump or reject-

Women seem to be very attracted to these types of physical men and would never consider dumping these types:

A.) The physical abuser. He slaps her around, kicks her, beats her, pushes her, shoves her around. Raises his voice with her. In other words he doesnt put up with any of her sh*t. She knows who the boss is in the relationship. The bad boy type. Types of physical abusers: Bikers, criminals, felons, prisoners, police officers, rockstars, daredevils, firemen, cowboys.

B.) The successful type. Makes very good money. Wears suits, lives a good lifestyle, treats her with average interest. Doesnt kiss her ass. Focuses on his career and she is just along for the ride. Types of successful men: CEO, Moviestar, Business Owner, Enterpenuer, Banker, Real estate Developer.

C.)The boring type. Steady eddie behavior. Has a pension. Good benefits, decent pay. He is slow in his movements. He is calm, cool, and collected. He has a routine, anal retentive, and sticks to a plan. Decisive and calculated in his behavior. Very predictable. Types: Accountant, tax collector, govt. official, engineer.


These are 2 types that women will mostly reject or dump:

A.)Artistic-romantic type. Loves beauty,music, beauty in everything, poetry senstive, writes love notes, plays music, acts, paints, draws, and loves self-espression. Self-absorbed. Types: Actor, poet, musician, painter, sometimes a teacher, female type careers.

B.)Nice guy-Helper. Wants to do good. Good smaritan. Belongs to causes like Crusades. Pleases everyone.. Kisses ass. Seeks attention. Is warm and friendly. Good natures. Nice boy. A good do-er.
Types: Waiter, nurse, flight attendant, teacher, advocate, and crowd pleaser.

I consider myself to be this one-

A.)Artistic-romantic type. Loves beauty,music, beauty in everything, poetry senstive, writes love notes, plays music, acts, paints, draws, and loves self-espression. Self-absorbed. Types: Actor, poet, musician, painter, sometimes a teacher, female type careers.

It is of course in the category that women reject or dump,and guess what women have mostly done to me? Hint: I would not have found this forum if I wasn't having women problems

I don't think women would dislike a guy simply because he creates art or music, poetry, etc, but they may reject him because of the personality associated with an artistic type of guy, or they may think doing something artistic is just too feminine or gay or something for a man to be doing with his time? Is there any truth to this?

 

[slaog]

No they don't reject artistic men. In fact artistic men get good looking women because they are individualistic but only if they act like real men e.g. I see alot of scruffy bearded types with loads of women hanging around them.

Depends on the womans taste too...

 

[JUAN the Great]

What I would say to you is this; women in society today only respond to those men who show them minimal interest. It does no matter what you do as a occupation; it has to do with how you react to them. If you show them above-average interest into what they do and they daily life ; they will become disinterested in you. You are seen as a "friend" and not a lover. Be indifferent to them no matter what you do. My best friend is a teacher and he carries himself like a man; he is above the femalle bs andhe pays them no mind. ALL THE LADIES LOVE HIM FROM THE PRINCIPAL TO THE PARENTS. I am a sound engineer and my dads always said this and I relay this to you:
ONLY SHOW A WOMAN A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF WHO YOU ARE; KEEP THEM IN THE DARK. IF YOU DO THIS AND FEED THEM SPARINGLY; THEY WILL COME TO YOU. YOU WON'T HAVE TO COME TO THEM. JAY.

 

[Huffman]

Your artistic talents are a mere bonus to your life and/or your personality.
The art that you create does not pull women by itself, but rather the confidence and self-esteem that you draw from it.

There are artistic AFCs and artistic "men", to put it bluntly. Don't make an excuse for youself saying you're the "romantic artist" and don't need that **** - the basic principles of self-improvement still apply to you.

 

[IPalindromeI]

Do women reject and/or dump artistic men?

Not if they are successful, make her look good/more popular, and bring in a lot of money.

The artist types I see getting dumped are the dreamers who have lots of ideas but nothing material to show for them. Or, perhaps the enigmatic guys who may not have a pot to piss in, but keep the woman guessing constantly. Henry Miller when he was young comes to mind - he freeloaded constantly, but kept a steady stream of women due to his general nature.

I don't think it is your career that will get you dumped, rather your success or failure in it, and your general character.

 

[FoolsCause]

I don't think women would dislike a guy simply because he creates art or music, poetry, etc, but they may reject him because of the personality associated with an artistic type of guy, or they may think doing something artistic is just too feminine or gay or something for a man to be doing with his time? Is there any truth to this?

I got flaked before the first date last year though I was really looking forward to it because I liked the girl alot. Telling her I played music didn't help a bit. She had high interest at first, but after the tide turned against me when I showed interest, she probably was thinking I play Lawrence Welk or Liberace for my mom and her old lady friends or something like that and didn't want to be embarassed in front of her friends and family. She told me she was getting back with her boyfriend who smashed in her car with a hammer after she moved out on him in secret to avoid being hurt, an (A) physical abuser. So, yeah, they'll imagine the worst unless you basically bring your instrument and play there on the spot (which isn't easy to do with a piano).

Your categories are fairly accurate though C) boring type attracts mostly just for marriage and children, not dating. I'm a combo (C)boring/(A)artist/musician, so getting dates isn't easy.

 

[I'm Charming]

I wouldnt say being an artist or a musician is a bad thing at all.

If you think about it being either usually puts you above social class, a musician can be rich or poor and even if you are poor - you're musicianship/artistry can make you acceptable as an aquaintance to the rich - it's not a job that degrades your social value in any circles.

Being a daydreamer - thats another thing.

 

[FireOnTheMountain]

I disagree.


Actors and artists seem to have terrific ******d, alpha male personalities from what I've seen. Yes, it is different from the gruff, football player type, but they can attract women like crazy from what I've seen in college.

 

[The Deacon]

No they don't reject artistic men. In fact artistic men get good looking women because they are individualistic but only if they act like real men e.g. I see alot of scruffy bearded types with loads of women hanging around them.

Listen to slaog, OP. Being an artist in itself doesn't make you more liable to rejection by women, but if you're introverted and socially inexperienced (like artists tend to be), then that is what's going to be a liability. The guy you quoted, OP, probably thought that artists usually get rejected because of their artistic ability when that's simply not the case.

The guy you quoted sounds like he hasn't handled a woman in his life either. No, women don't get their jollies on when a boy threatens to beat them senseless, unless they have a sexual fetish for it. Yes, women are sexually responsive to men who fulfill their gender roles. So, as long as you're not that wussbag standing in the corner and crying that no girls want him, that you're putting yourself out there and taking social risks and learning from them, you'll eventually "get it."

 

[Interceptor]

Women 'reject' men whom they have no sexual chemistry with. A woman prefers to view you as a sexual/romantic partner, rather than just a Provisioner.

But if she wants a Provisioner, she'll overlook any lack of chemistry and simply be with you because of what you can provide her with.

However, the label 'artistic' or whatever label is total bullsh*t.

She either sees you as a potential sexual partner or not.

If she doesnt see you as Masculine, and Confident, and with a good sense of yourself (this means who you are, what you want, and where you're going) , it doesnt matter WHAT "Label' some dude slaps on you, she will NOT Move forward with you.It has NOTHING at all to do with being 'artistic' or not, or whatever...