Do women aver change or begin to like nice guys?

[Rushie]

Women are instincualy driven towards jerks. this point has been driven pretty well now. But do they at any point start to have a normal relationship with you without all the games.
I mean do they ever settle down? Do you gotta spend your whole life manupulating them? I mean the way it seams you can't be friends with them and be their lover.
Also what is a princess complex?

 

[Starman]

Dont be retarded. How many nice guys do you know who are married, settled down with children with loving wives?

there are many women out there who have self respect, understand the psychology behind the jerk & wouldnt tolerate disrespect from them, and go for the nice guy

a princess complex is a chick who has been mollycoddled by her parents for too long and brainwashed her to think she is some modern day princess (the female version of a narcissist)..I would say the hilton twins are a good example

 

[iqqi]

there isn't just the jerk and the nice guy.

i hope you know that.

 

[xblitz44x]

"Women are instincualy driven towards jerks"

You're wrong there. And if your thinking stems from this misunderstanding, then your actions are going to reflect that. Women aren't instinctively driven toward jerks. *Some* are driven towards the dominance that those jerks display while they are being 'jerks'. It was never about the fact that they treated girls like shyt. It was always the woman's desire for that dominance, and she personally has issues that allow her to be treated like garbage in exchange for that dominance. There are pleanty of guys who are nice that are getting laid; just like there are pleanty of jerks that aren't getting laid. The only reason you hear about the nice guys that can't get laid, is because they are the only ones who bytch and cry about it. The jerk doesn't have time but still isn't getting laid any more.

 

[Starman]

well said blitz, but dont forget some women also like to repeat the pattern of abusive cycle that experienced as children..I think I had this discussion with you b4

but im just telling you what I see..I notice women who were physically/sexually abused as children gravitate towards men who give them that familiar feeling they experienced as children, and confuse love with disrespect and abuse

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by xblitz44x
Women aren't instinctively driven toward jerks. *Some* are driven towards the dominance that those jerks display while they are being 'jerks'. It was never about the fact that they treated girls like shyt.

now THIS is true.

i don't know about the rest of what you were blabbing about, but dominance and confidence (in the right way) is so sexy. universally.

 

[xblitz44x]

Starman,

I agree but who would want to get involved with a girl like that to begin with?

iqqi,

Thanks. And don't worry about the rest of my 'babble'.

 

[TesuqueRed]

Actually, I think a lot of women marry nice guys. AFCs too--we have enough divorced rAFCs here who can attest to that.

What I think the women have done in many of these situations is to settle for what they could get, what they could manage, which is much less than what they wanted. They just don't have much in the way of options, so they reluctantly (or desperately) take the only thing available: the nice guy.

I'd do a deeper search on nice guy vs jerk. Those aren't the only options--it's too simplistic. My own theory is that a self-possessed man is neither a supplicating AFC nor a jerk. Imature women may like the excitement and unpredictability of a jerk, or they all too often confuse him for what a man is. Later--if they meet a self-possessed man--they can see a jerk for just that. But don't mistake--they won't necessarily want a spineless nice guy. It may be what they're forced into accepting.

 

[DJZ]

Nice guys are not a challenge to a girl.

 

[trevor2003]

this might be a bit off topic

BUT if you acted AFC or "too nice" to her in the past, then she will always see you like that

unless you get married to some hottie or win the lottery!

 

[Starman]

"BUT if you acted AFC or "too nice" to her in the past, then she will always see you like that
"

Wrong there sparky

think of this analogy

if there was always some skinny geeky dweeb you picked on..and saw him 1 year later..and he became buff, grew a spine, and no longer let anyone push him around

would you still see him as the pushover geek he always was? or would you adjust your attitude towards him?

impressions arent permanent, unless you make them

 

[trevor2003]

BUT what if the girl is a mega-b!tch who has more issues than a news stand and is just waiting for you to act like a chump again so she can crush your balls???

 

[Starman]

I dont deal with those kinda peeps, what you do is ignore their existence , these are your typical attention wh0res

One girl comes to mind, back in the day I was total AFC with her..then when I woke up one day, I completely nexted her, ignored her calls, emails, and wouldnt even acknowledge her existence when hanging with mutual friends..

one day she became so pissed she spilled a drink on me and stormed off..even today she still calls me, sends me emails and small gifts in the mail..she is still on ignore mode