Do Girls Really Care About You for You?

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The question is why do you need a woman to validate your talents?

You should get fulfillment and internal validation from enjoying your hobbies and activities without needing an 18 year old who can't tell her right foot from her left to feed your ego.
 

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The question is why do you need a woman to validate your talents?

You should get fulfillment and internal validation from enjoying your hobbies and activities without needing an 18 year old who can't tell her right foot from her left to feed your ego.
I honestly didn't think about them validating me (given that it's never happened), but it seems like they don't appreciate or give us credit for things that are genuinely to their benefit, and it's their loss. They'll leave a man who can cook for a man who can't cook and not bat an eye. It's bad enough women no longer cook, but they could at least appreciate a man who can cook.

They usually choose a man they can control over one who is out of control, but they always resent the one who succumbs to them and long for the one who did not.

It seems our only choices are married beta or lone wolf.
 

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It seems our only choices are married beta or lone wolf.
I like the lone wolf option. :)

Much better than marrying as a beta and succumb to depression or lonely af for years while she controls sex on tap.
 

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I like the lone wolf option. :) Much better than marrying as a beta and succumb to depression or lonely af for years while she controls sex on tap. Been there, done that. Got the t-shirt. Don't want to do that again.
I realized that married men basically have oneitis squared. It must be torture, to know that the woman rules you, as you have to go off and risk your neck for a job you might hate, and she is wondering why you don't have a bigger house.

Girls my age were never even close to acting satisfied with my lifestyle. Go all the way back to 1987 and they were always laughing at me. They always frowned on my having no house? Oh and I was never married, no kids? Hmm.... And yet here I am earning more than ever and dating their daughters who treat me ten times better (as their mom says 'she is USING you!!').
 

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Excellent. Do women appreciate your talents?
The fact that I'm on TV, get in front of groups of people on a regular basis and am a published author gives me massive separation vs. most other men so it does garner allure, interest and attraction. I'm a bit older, so the young ones have openly told me they like my maturity too. BUT, I also feel many times that instead of starting at the 20 yard line I get the ball at the 5 because many think I'm a player and have my own orbiters (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't--I have a life outside of dating). I've had many tell me they can't take me seriously because of all the **** I do and they think I'll cheat. Truth is, once I commit, I don't actively look for hook-ups.

Having accomplishments and being an outgoing and confident guy also attracts those who have a lot of problems because you possess what they don't: $, stability, confidence, charisma, etc. So I've attracted my fair share of BPD'ers and hot women who are f*cking crazy. Usually they're quite hot which muddies the water.

The good ones make me work to prove I'm not in it just for the lay, so it's a balancing act between me remaining all "James Bond/DJ" and still showing interest in them so they don't think they're only a plate, if that's my intention.
 

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Women, generally speaking, do not care about your talents... They do however, appreciate and are attracted to the status those talents bring. I know quite a few chicks, who have musicians as BFs, but hate the genre of music they play.
 

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Women, generally speaking, do not care about your talents... They do however, appreciate and are attracted to the status those talents bring. I know quite a few chicks, who have musicians as BFs, but hate the genre of music they play.
Yes, bottom line factor - they don't have time to analyze whether your talent can earn money, so they just look at how much money you have.

By the same token they prequalify you if their peers like you. One of the hottest strippers at the best club in her first text confirmed our date and she showed up on time a few days later and was delightful, and kissed me goodnight, all because she saw me seduce her friend last fall. Girls don't have time to analyze your earnings and body, they just check to see if other hot girls like you. That's why when you work out and improve and get a hotter girl, you actually get a shot with every girl at that level.
 

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Band members get the groupies in this order:
#1 - Singer
#2 - Guitar Player
#3 - Bass Player
#4 - Drummer
I would put the drummer ahead of the bass player. Drummers can be very visual, fun to watch. Bass players can be the best musician in the band, but tend not to get a lot of glory.

I had said that musicians used to be held in higher esteem. I didn't mean singers. Singers may actually be held in higher esteem now. I meant the people playing the instruments, they used to be appreciated more.
 

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When a girl is attracted to you, everything you do is cool. When she's really attracted & emotionally invested, your interests become her interest. When she loses attraction, then anything you do that doesn't benefit her is 'childish, pointless, etc.'

Bottom line is you can't count on the validation from women as being any substantial form of validation. She doesn't like you, she likes how you make her feel--which is generated by words & actions, which can stem from a direct result of your personality but can also be faked.
 

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Singers may actually be held in higher esteem now. I meant the people playing the instruments, they used to be appreciated more.
I would agree because women connect with the lyrics and feel a personal connection with the words from the song and the singer. The more emotional fluctuation they feel from the singer, the more connected they will feel to him.

There's also the element of body language and looks that factor into the value. Think of how seductive some singers move to showcase sexuality and sexual tension.

The other musicians in the band are more or less fixed in body language or a bit more stationary because of their instruments. They have less freedom to move around the stage as the singer.
 

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We're constantly told "that girl only cares about money, but a nice girl will love you for YOU". However, I was thinking about some of my special talents, the things that define me, and to be honest, I don't think any woman ever really gave me any credit for them.

Examples:

1) I've been an organic chef since 1997. I can cook healthier and tastier meals than you would get at the finest 5 star restaurants. Things like organic, bone-in, grass fed beef stew, yeast-free pizza or homemade guacamole. Do you think any women ever said "Let's just stay home and you can cook?" No, because it secretly bothers women to think you are saving money. They prefer restaurants where they know you are spending more.

2) I'm an artist. I can draw women. I capture beautiful images of them. Women don't seem to even care about artists anymore.

3) I'm a musician. I can play the drums. Drummers have rhythm and are intrinsically the best dancers. But I never had a groupie.

4) I'm a naturopath, a healer, a real doctor (called a quack since 1913 when the AMA was bought out by Rockefeller trust). I can heal almost any illness with herbs. Most women frown upon it and ask their doctor, and tell me the benefits of vaccines. Oh, and they'll brag about their friend and say "She dates a DOCTOR!"

I was wondering what YOUR special talents are, and whether you ever found a woman who valued them more than money or lust. If anything, I feel that women are told never to appreciate a man's special talents, but to prove that she can do whatever he can.
I can program - hack, build websites, work with neural networks. Dabbled in phreaking. Haven't had a traditional job in years. Can pick up nearly any concept in a matter of hours. Made an algorithm thats 70% accurate at predicting the stock market.

Personally, I don't expect women to care about my skills. I brag about them when I want some admiration otherwise I don't talk about things like that to women.
 

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My brother is the more traditional (sazc and BeExcellent-approved) version of me.

He got married to his college sweetheart, bought a ritzy house in a trendy Boston suburb, had 2 kids, got them vaccinated, took his anti depressants, voted for Hillary, disowned me when Trump won, and has been a good little servant (though he hates his life because the American Dream means being a slave to the bank, your mortgage, your wife, your children, their doctor and your boss).
 

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Neil Diamond could have had any woman on Earth. Ended up getting taken for the biggest inflation-adjusted divorce settlement of all time (about $350M).

He had it right 50 years ago with this early warning about Feminism.

 

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1) I've been an organic chef since 1997. I can cook healthier and tastier meals than you would get at the finest 5 star restaurants. Things like organic, bone-in, grass fed beef stew, yeast-free pizza or homemade guacamole. Do you think any women ever said "Let's just stay home and you can cook?" No, because it secretly bothers women to think you are saving money. They prefer restaurants where they know you are spending more.
4) I'm a naturopath, a healer, a real doctor (called a quack since 1913 when the AMA was bought out by Rockefeller trust). I can heal almost any illness with herbs. Most women frown upon it and ask their doctor, and tell me the benefits of vaccines. Oh, and they'll brag about their friend and say "She dates a DOCTOR!"
Yeah, you definitely are a quack when you're self promoting 'holistic' approaches to medicine and are an anti-vaxxer and yet still eat animal based products ('organic', 'grass fed' beef). If you were really as knowledgeable about health as you think are you'd be promoting plant based dieting and drastically reducing your meat intake.

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just more bs from rightwingnut big neil, where every source of news and information that isn't alex jones/infowars is "fake" news.
 

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Yeah, you definitely are a quack when you're self promoting 'holistic' approaches to medicine and are an anti-vaxxer and yet still eat animal based products ('organic', 'grass fed' beef). If you were really as knowledgeable about health as you think are you'd be promoting plant based dieting and drastically reducing your meat intake.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

just more bs from rightwingnut big neil, where every source of news and information that isn't alex jones/infowars is "fake" news.
  • I'm deplorable, am I?
  • Will you accept personal liability for any damages from vaccines for any SS members who take your advice and get a shot?
  • Take it from a fat nurse like you. Thanks for crippling women for profit with Gardasil.
  • Ever read the vaccine insert?
  • I used to write for Health Ranger Mike Adams from www.NaturalNews.com and his food forensic lab tested the Flu shot and found HUGE amounts of Mercury. That is the most toxic metal next to Plutonium. Do not inject this into newborn children for a 1% chance of preventing non-deadly diseases like chicken pox (only to cause Shingles later).
  • Your odds of dying of Measles are so rare in the US (1 in 300 Million odds, that's 1 person in the country per year), that if you drive to the doctor to get a shot, your odds of dying go up because cars are 400,000 times more deadly than Measles.
  • Think it's a coincidence that I'm 47, average looking and date gorgeous 22 year old women? It's because of my healthy glow. I use only herbal medicine and take no prescription meds.
 

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One of the most overrated aspects in seduction is attraction. People always tell you to be attractive and everything will take care of itself. What people don't often talk about is the entitled female ego in 2017. Attraction doesn't buy you unconditional love. Being attractive gives you an opportunity to give HER value! Most women are takers of value.

Being attractive just means you have a greater opportunity to serve women. That's how it works in a matriarchy.

If you think women actually care about you, talk about your talents in front of her. She will lose interest in 5 seconds and try to change the topic to something about HER (You talking about yourself is not giving her any value). Even if your talents has to do with making money, her only concern is whether or not you making money is benefiting her, not you.

This is why every single seduction technique is about offering value, making women feel good emotions, and putting the attention on the woman, validating her, and feeding her ego.

A relationship is actually for a woman to validate herself (with a high status guy who is controllable), not for her to submit. This isn't the 1990's anymore. This isn't your grandfather's relationship.

Incidentally, I've noticed that most guys are the complete opposite. Guys actually fall in love with women who have inner beauty/substance that goes with their outer beauty.
I see the recovery worked.
 

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Tonight I cancelled a date with Caroline 3 because of her hot/cold attitude.

Ever have the waitress who randomly runs over and hugs you and humps your leg and then the next time you see her she treats you like the guy who just ran over her cat?

So I pulled the takeaway. A great test for a girl is to assign her a task. See if she can sell a CD on eBay or something. You'll see how useless a lot of girls are.
 
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