DJs are not FEARFUL!!!!!

[rakishness]

I'm writing this post in response to some posts I've read on here lately. One poster was scared about cold approaching because he thought maybe a BF could be right around the corner. And I thought to myself "damn people will use any excuse NOT to approach."

You can't be a DJ and be FEARFUL or CAUTIOUS. The occasional PHYSICAL ALTERCATION with a jealous BF is a part of the game. If your TOUGH this shouldn't bother you at all. I don't know what to tell you guys. So many guys are after that putang.

Anyways, the danger of it all ADDS to the THRILL. For both you and her. Danger is both EXCITING and EXTREME TURN ON FOR A WOMAN.

 

[~attrACTION~]

Exactly.

What made me stop being fearful is that I realized there is no danger!

Danger is falling off a building. It's having a gun to your head. Real fear is being diagnosed with terminal cancer. Or how about spending 24hrs in Baghdad? Spending time in a lion cage at the zoo.

Those are real dangers. Walking up to a woman isn't any of those things.

 

[6-heads lewis]

rakishness - makes sense.

attraction - that's a lame analogy. by that token i can say 'why ever fear public speaking? hell, why ever fear anything? walking around NYC wearing only diapers and a pacifier wont kill me, so why not do that?'

to ignore the psychological aspects of fear and shame is ignorant.

 

[~attrACTION~]

attraction - that's a lame analogy. by that token i can say 'why ever fear public speaking?

Well, why would anyone fear public speaking? Sure, you get nervous, but it doesn't stop people from doing it. The people who fear it avoid it. Same with approaches, there are lot of guys who still get a little nervous at first, but still do it. Then there are the guys who wallow in fear and never approach.

hell, why ever fear anything?

I do wonder the same thing. Why should anyone fear anything? When you're born, you don't have any fears. Fear is a learnt behavior.

This piss-poor society taught guys like us to fear women. It's not normal at all.

There is a famous quote that I really like.

"Every man dies. Not every man truly lives." - William Wallace

If you're truly living, why would you be afraid to die? The only thing I really fear is death. I have so much left to live for, so much left to do and experience. I fear death because I haven't truly lived yet.

Why should I fear anything else?

walking around NYC wearing only diapers and a pacifier wont kill me, so why not do that?'

I don't do that because it's pointless. I was talking about dangerous situations that are imposed upon you. Walking around NYC in diapers is your own choice.

to ignore the psychological aspects of fear and shame is ignorant.

Again, why? I think that only happens when you have an ego. If you don't let your ego get the best of you, you don't care about the psychological aspects of fear and shame. Why should you care what others think? What good does it do, to feel fear or shame - what benefits are there?

 

[~attrACTION~]

This is not political.

Think about the people over in Iraq. Each they go to the market to buy milk, they could end up blown to pieces. Even when they are having dinner at home, a missile could hit their home (because there may be a terrorist hiding in a lower floor). They see their friends die, their family members die, and all day, everyday they hearing gunshots, missiles, and explosions. That's not a choice. It's not like you said, going around NYC in diapers. Not exactly. They were born into that life. They live with fear everyday.

I have cousins in a nearby country. It's illegal in their country to even hold hands with women in public. You could get arrested and thrown in jail, with no trial. If you're caught having sex out of marriage, the penalty is death.

You know what's crazy though, my cousins get more ass than a toilet seat, literally. They rag on me for not being able to keep up, especially since I'm living in a country where I can do whatever the heck I want - America. They're having more sex than us, even though they could seriously get killed for doing it.

What do guys have to be afraid of here?

 

[Quiksilver]

to ignore the psychological aspects of fear and shame is ignorant.

No...that is power.

 

[Brak86]

I'm writing this post in response to some posts I've read on here lately. One poster was scared about cold approaching because he thought maybe a BF could be right around the corner. And I thought to myself "damn people will use any excuse NOT to approach."

You can't be a DJ and be FEARFUL or CAUTIOUS. The occasional PHYSICAL ALTERCATION with a jealous BF is a part of the game. If your TOUGH this shouldn't bother you at all. I don't know what to tell you guys. So many guys are after that putang.

Anyways, the danger of it all ADDS to the THRILL. For both you and her. Danger is both EXCITING and EXTREME TURN ON FOR A WOMAN.

i agree to an extent, but i disagree with your statement that a DJ can't be fearful. Everyone has fear.

"courage is not a lack of fear, but is acting in spite of it"-Mark Twain

 

[thickandcreamy]

DJ's ARE fearful. Fear is good. It is a signal that danger is imminent. However, DJ's learn how to control their fear, rather than letting fear control them. You act despite your fear. Saying that someone should become fearless is unrealistic. It's like saying one should become devoid of emotion altogether. First of all, it's impossible. Second of all, emotions are extremely useful and aid our survival. For example, fear heightens our awareness. Let's not go to extremes. Think of a more realistic mindset.

Thick

I'm writing this post in response to some posts I've read on here lately. One poster was scared about cold approaching because he thought maybe a BF could be right around the corner. And I thought to myself "damn people will use any excuse NOT to approach."

You can't be a DJ and be FEARFUL or CAUTIOUS. The occasional PHYSICAL ALTERCATION with a jealous BF is a part of the game. If your TOUGH this shouldn't bother you at all. I don't know what to tell you guys. So many guys are after that putang.

Anyways, the danger of it all ADDS to the THRILL. For both you and her. Danger is both EXCITING and EXTREME TURN ON FOR A WOMAN.

 

[~attrACTION~]

DJ's ARE fearful. Fear is good.

Come again?

Saying that someone should become fearless is unrealistic...Think of a more realistic mindset.

People who urge you to be realistic generally want you to accept their definition of reality.

"We have been taught to believe that negative equals realistic and positive equals unrealistic." - Susan Jeffers

It's like saying one should become devoid of emotion altogether.

Fear is not an emotion. It has nothing to do with emotion. Emotions are not learnt. When you're a baby, you don't learn how to cry or laugh. You don't learn to smile when you like something or frown when you don't. Fear is the only thing you learn from your environment and how you were brought up.

First of all, it's impossible.

Nothing is impossible.

And the OP was talking about fearing women. It's natural to be afraid of life-threatening situations, as I stated, of course. But to say DJs should be fearful is stupid.

 

[thickandcreamy]

Let's be honest here. If you were able to turn off your own fear just like a switch, you wouldn't have any problem approaching any and all 9's and 10's you encounter. Assuming you have reasonably strong pickup skills, you'd be laying a fair percentage of them. If you were, you would not be spending even one second on this board. You'd be too busy up to your neck in hot ass. Clearly that is not the case. You ARE posting here. You are taking the time to flame others. That means two things:

1. your game is not tight at all. NO ONE who posts on sosuave has tight game. Period.

2. you have self esteem issues. Only people with low self esteem call other people names. Especially anonymously. Especially anonymously on the internet.

The bottom line is that you are yet another keyboard jockey on sosuave. You are speaking hypothetically. If overcoming the fear of approaching is so easy, post your FR's and LR's proving that this is so. Obviously, you don't have them, because as a matter of fact, you don't lay girls very often, if at all. And this is because it's not as easy to turn off your fear as you would like to believe.

I don't think you are stupid, I just think you have low self esteem. Also, your lack of experience is obvious: no one who is in the field can ignore the reality of approach anxiety. Again, post your FR's and LR's showing how easy it is to turn off your fear and successfully game 9's and 10's. Be sure to post photos so that it can be verified that you are indeed closing 9's and 10's. There is no doubt in my mind that you cannot and will not do this. This is because you don't have these FR's and LR's, and likely never will.


Thick

Come again?


People who urge you to be realistic generally want you to accept their definition of reality.

"We have been taught to believe that negative equals realistic and positive equals unrealistic." - Susan Jeffers


Fear is not an emotion. It has nothing to do with emotion. Emotions are not learnt. When you're a baby, you don't learn how to cry or laugh. You don't learn to smile when you like something or frown when you don't. Fear is the only thing you learn from your environment and how you were brought up.


Nothing is impossible.

And the OP was talking about fearing women. It's natural to be afraid of life-threatening situations, as I stated, of course. But to say DJs should be fearful is stupid.

 

[thickandcreamy]

And here's my proof, straight from the horse's mouth. These are posts from "attraction's" own "progress" journal, in which he is basically making no progress at all:

"...I haven't had sex in a year...."

"...I said that I would talk to 21 girls who I find attractive. Unfortunately, not being very social for the past several months has made this Mission a little more difficult to start than I imagined..."

"...I usually have witty stuff to say, but for a long time I had been keeping it all to myself...."

"...Although I haven't done any approaches..."

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1079723#post1079723


Seriously, you have massive approach anxiety, massive fear, a lot of laziness, massive inner game issues, you live at home and try to convince your parents to prepare for your having sex when you can't even bring yourself to even talk to women, and THEN you try to post some nonsense in THIS thread as if you have no fear, or as if having no fear were a realistic goal. Do you have a split personality or something? Seriously, get real.


Thick

 

[thickandcreamy]

Here's another post from "attraction" stating that he basically prefers heavy weight women over thin attractive ones:

"...It seems like the women I find most attractive are the ones that work at McDonald's / Burger King or at Motel 6. I seriously find those women, even if they have a few extra pounds, to be more attractive and personable than the girls I meet in classes or elsewhere around town..."

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1090471#post1090471

Dude, you have NO credibility whatsoever when you say that fear can be eliminated. You yourself don't have the guts to talk to women, and you are willing to settle for heavy weight women as a result.


Thick

 

[thickandcreamy]

Do you know how to read? If so, read my post again. I said fear cannot be eliminated, it can only be controlled. I never said DJ's should be fearful. I merely stated it's inevitable. Your reading comprehension skills need serious work. Work on that before you start work on your DJ skills. An illiterate DJ is a celibate DJ. How else are you going to read the DJ Bible? You can read, right?

Come again?

 

[Obsidian]

thick, I think I agree with your point about fear, but you are being way more obnoxious to Attracted than is either necessary or warranted. You need to chill.

 

[~attrACTION~]

thick, believe it or not, I've improved a lot since those posts. When people come here they change, they don't stay the same.

I don't feel the need to post to prove anything to anyone. I'm also not going to bring myself down to your level to respond to those flames. You sound frustrated. I have posted plenty of experience related posts, and you actually have not.

FYI, I am going to stop posting here soon. Because quite frankly, the negativity and flaming is ridiculous. I'd say 70% of the people are not here for self-improvement, but more for mental-masturbation.

I think having fear is ridiculous. The fact that you rate women says a lot about you. I don't fear any woman any more, regardless of what she looks like.

If you'd like to discuss further, feel free to use the PM function.

Have a nice day.

 

[thickandcreamy]

Let's be clear: if you are going to state that an idea is real, you need some actual experience to show that that is the case. Let's say Person X says situation Y exists (Y = "fear doesn't exist"). Let's then say however, that every event in Person X's life demonstrates that Person X lives in fear 24/7. How much credibility does Person X's claim (Y) have now? I would say none whatsoever.

So if attraction or anyone else says one can be fearless, then something in their life should prove it. Either they are fearless, or are becoming more fearless by the day. But if the opposite is true, if attraction or anyone else, is afraid to: approach girls, hear adults talking about sex, etc., this shows that the initial point is not valid.

So this is not a flame, this is logical and objective reasoning. You can put me on your ignore list, but that doesn't change reality. You can stick your head in the sand, or you can acknowledge the truth.


Thick