DJ Boot Camp: IOS

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I know that I need to go through with this if I'm going to get out of my AFC slump. I have two major flaws that are preventing me from getting girls:

1) I am way too nice to girls. This often results in me getting friendzoned
2) I don't have the balls to actually ask a girl for her phone number, etc

Obviously, these are two very serious problems that need correcting. I'm glad I stumbled across this site, because now I know what I need to do in order to solve these two problems. I have nothing else really wrong with me; I consider myself to be good looking, smart and funny. Its just that I always feel inferior when faced in front of a girl. So hopefully I'll make drastic improvements to my life after going through bootcamp.

I'll post a daily journal, chronicling my successes and failures. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Day 1 beings tomorrow. I've already done the reading, so I'm ready to make eye contact/say hi to 50 people. I'm really good at making eye contact, but saying hi to strangers should be a step out of my comfort zone.
 
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Week 1: Day 1

Alright, so my first day of boot camp. I did all the reading yesterday to get ahead of the game, so my exercises for this week are to attempt to make eye contact with people in two separate outings and to say "hi" to 50 different people.

My first day had its share of success and failures. I did manage to say hi to 20 strangers today, although about eight of them were introducing myself at swing dance lessons (which I started taking, every Monday) and thats kind of expected. I'm also not counting situations like where you're ordering food, etc. So 20 "hi's" is pretty good for one day, but I would say that about 5-6 people ignored me completely.

Now of those three "hi's", three of them lead to conversations with girls. One of them I met walking to class, and she was probably about a 6.5. I didn't ask her for her number simply because I wasn't interested.

The second was in line for Mr. Sub, a nice 8. I asked her what sub she recommended, and we got into a good conversation. I was really disappointed that I didn't get her number. I suppose thats not until week 4, but I wish I had the confidence to do it now.

The third was at swing club lessons, I'd say an 8.5. I asked her to dance, which might of been a mistake. This was my first time swing dancing, and I could tell that she was way better then me (I wasn't that great). This was probably the reason I didn't get her number, I felt discouraged. Convo went alright though.

So a good amount of hello's and convo's, but no number closes. Any suggestions anybody can give me? Thanks
 

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I'll keep an eye on your thread, give you pointers if I can offer you something useful. :up:
 

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lol, GET THE CONFIDENCE!

You have to get to the point in which you dont ask can I sit here, but just sit there and introduce yourself,lol
 

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Week 1: Day 2

So a bit of a step back from Day 1's "hi" total, I only got a measly 7 "hi's", partly because I only have one class today, and mostly hung out with my friends. Still, I'm over half way, and only two days in. Walking around, I'm getting better with eye contact too. I'm always good at eye contact when talking to somebody, but I had to stop myself a few times from looking away after making eye contact with other people. Its true, people do instinctively turn away when you're making eye contact. Other then that, just two convos with girls, both like...6.5s. Nothing special. Hoping to pick up my game a bit tomorrow.

Going through the reading again too, to reinforce a few key points.
 

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Week 1: Day 3

So I got 10 hi's today, which is alright I suppose. Not counting forced hi's like to the don who said hi to me first (I'm in first year, in res) or when ordering at Harveys. Just two conversations with HBs today, and I probably could of number closed if I had the balls. But tomorrow, I'm definitely going to number close at least one girl. Thats my goal. I'm tired of being so passive, I'm going for it. I also got a somewhat unique response from an HB8 in the line for Harveys. She was standing in line, but away from the rest of the line. I asked her if she was in line, in a confident manner. She smiled, looked down and shook her head. Weird thing is that she really doesn't seem like the shy type. Ah well. Hope to convey good news tomorrow, but we'll see how it goes,

Oh, and 13 "hi's" left. Not bad, with 4 days left.
 

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Week 1:Day 4

Damn, I'm so close! 12 hi's yesterday, so that means I just have to say to 1 person tomorrow before I have 50! Awe well, I'll still be done this 2 days early. I know I said that I would get a girl's number today, which unfortunately didn't happen. What did happen was that I was drunk out of my mind, made a few advances and got rejected by a HB7. I was rejected because I was drunk, I'm not a bad looking guy at all (ex-girlfriend was a HB8.5) and I'll eventually have the skills to be a DJ. I'm not going to be discouraged by this, or count this at all. I will tone down my drinking though, I think its being a detriment more then its helping me.

So 1 "hi" to go, and a promise to myself to cut down drinking. For all I know she could have a boyfriend, but I'm going to assume that the main reason was because I was drunk out of my mind, and I'm going to cut back on that.
 

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Week 1: Day 5

Alright, finished off the week 2 days early! Said hi to a bunch of people today (didn't keep count after the first one), so I'm pretty proud of myself for that. Also got a HB8's phone number after talking to her for a bit, so hopefully something will spring up from that. I'm still a bit of an amateur with all the DJ skills, but thats not until Week 4-5 so I have some time :D

I'll just start Week 2 tomorrow, just because I can and I don't want to waste two days. I want to learn!
 

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Week 2: Day 1

Ok, so I didn't start any conversations with people except when I was drinking. And I'm not going to count those conversations, because anybody can have a conversation after drinking a bit. So only one sober conversation today, but this should be easy seeing as I have so many people I haven't talked to yet in my lectures (300 people so yeah).
 

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IOS.
You've already proven you're a class above most here.
I.E, you aren't just posting and reading then wondering why you still suck.

My rep mightn't be high nor my post count but if you ever need to talk to someone from the real world.

PM me man.
This.
Is very refreshing to see coming from this place.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Thanks a lot for the encouragement Accension! If I ever need any advice or anything, i'll make sure to drop you a PM.
 

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Wow, you actually did something. Very inspiring. You have balls, therefore I salute you, and your balls.
 

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Week 2: Day 2

What a bad day. Didn't actually talk to a single stranger for more then 2 minutes. Man, I don't know what was wrong with me. A HB8.5 (she was cute as hell) was doing laundry at the same time as me, and I just completely blanked out. I had no idea what to say. Maybe I need to look over the reading again, I don't know. But I'm setting a goal for 2 conversations tomorrow. I don't care if I have to wander for an hour around campus to try to find somebody to talk to. I'm getting them.

Then again, I have 3 lectures tomorrow. Logic would dictate that I'd be able to get at least 3 convos tomorrow, but I always end up getting stuck between two people I already know (not a bad thing at all, but still :p)

So tally is still at 1. Goal is for at least two conversations tomorrow. Lets get this done.
 

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Week 2: Day 3

Well, I got my 2 conversations, but one of them was just over 2 minutes. And I really should of got more, but I choked with an HB9 next to me in business (got there late, didn't really get a chance to talk during the lecture), I got stuck next to some really unfriendly guy in calculus, and only got my 2 convos in economics. I made small talk with other people over the course of the day, but not for more then 2 minutes.

Basically, I think I need to keep conversations going a bit more (I'm going to read over Pimpology) and stop being so nervous! I don't know why, my nervousness goes on and off randomly and I need to control it. I'm aiming for 2-3 convos tomorrow too. No nervousness, I can do this.
 

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Week 2: Day 4

Alright, so two convos today, both with HB6.5s, meh. Didn't ask for numbers simply because I wasn't interested. Also joked around with the girl serving me at the dining hall, but didn't really have a convo with her. I don't think I'm really pushing myself enough.

I'm not approaching enough HBs, and looking at Walden's boot camp, he was already approaching plenty of girls by this time. This week should be easier then it is, so I'm going to get rid of whatever nerves I have, and go for it. I'm aiming for 3 convos tomorrow, two of them with at least HB7s. I know I can make that happen.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Week 2: Day 5

Goal accomplished! Got three conversations today, probably lasting about 5 minutes each, with two HB 7s and an HB8. I don't even know if I can count the one with HB8, because it was just about calculus in my tutorial, but a conversation is a conversation. I didn't really think it was appropriate to get a number, there was no flirting or anything.

I got into a pretty conversation with one of the HB7s during economics extra help, when I noticed we had the same phone. Started talking to her about it, about all the problems with it, and we were joking around a bit. I know i could of asked for the number, but i still don't know whats holding me back. I tried to justify with myself that I can do better then HB7s, but I really should of gone for it just to practise. Damn. I keep reading all these articles about just going for it, I don't know why I can't apply it in real life.

I think that after I start getting used to asking for numbers, things will start flowing better and better. I definitely feel that I can talk to women a lot better now, and I do feel that I have more confidence. But this is only the beginning, and I have a long way to go.

So two more conversations to go, and I'm going to work more on being "suave", and just asking for the phone number without hesitation. I know thats possible.
 

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Week 2: Day 6

I didn't get two conversations today.

I got five.

I don't know what came over me, but it was almost as if I got a burst of confidence out of nowhere. I was chatting up with people, not caring about what anybody thought of me and it was great. Most of the conversations were with at least HB7.5s (including a cute 8.5), but unfortunately I'm still not at the number asking stage. Yeah yeah, its not until week 4 when I get to that, but I'm still anxious to get there.

Now I'm going home for Canadian Thanksgiving over the weekend, so I'll probably be out of commission until Monday due to being stuck in a small town with nothing to do for the weekend. If there are any girl opportunities over the weekend though, I'm definitely seizing the opportunity, and I'll be sure to write about my experiences for you guys.
 

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So yeah, looks like I'm out of commission until Monday when I get back to university. I hate living in small towns, there's nowhere to meet people (I pretty much knew every girl my age that I saw last afternoon when I walked around). So for fairness sake, I'm going to wait until I get back on Thanksgiving (Monday). Ah well.
 

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Alright, now that this holiday crap is out of the way, I can finally get back to bootcamp tomorrow. Did the reading, so 10 convos with girls I would consider dating in one week? Alright, I'll see how that goes.
 

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Week 3: Day 1

Got my first convo in, with an HB9. She's on my floor, but I've never had a conversation with her. I was walking to my class, noticed her and asked her what class she had. That eventually led to a conversation about her program, athletics at the school, etc. I don't remember what passage of the DJ bible it was, but listening more, talking less helps a lot. I barely said anything about myself, and allowed her to blab to her heart's content. No number close, again, i can never really get myself into the right situations. Not enough teasing, kino, etc. Still working on it though, I'll get there eventually.

1 down, 9 to go.
 
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