Define "Out of Your League"

[Maximus Rex]

"She's out of my league?" That statement in of itself is quintessential beta male faggot blue pill thinking. For a man to actually admit that there is a certain caliber of female that he can't get because of his looks, the lack of status, social proof, finances, or whatever it it is that dude has going on in his head is some ole slavish, defeatist, and supplicant thinking that dear ole Rex just can't accept, let alone comprehend.

Just actually what is it that makes her "out of your league?" Is it because she's built like Ariel Winter before the breast reduction, you've convinced yourself you'll be harshly rejected? Is it because she's as pretty as Scarlett Johannson you think that she's going to have to bounce on you the first chance that she gets? Y'all are putting to much on it.

Ole Rex was speaking to his big cousin when I told her that a first date is only worthy of Subway's, Cold Stone, or something of that nature. Of course she gave ya boy that tired ole female "logic," about venues and having to "impress her." However, when I said, "Well that impressing thing is two way street, and the chick in question has to impress me too." She didn't have anything to say.

Y'all have to remember just because a chick has strikingly good looks, a big rack, a nice ass doesn't, and possibly a bigger income, that doesn't make her more or better than you. Sure she has more opportunities for a relationship and sex, but are those dudes coming at her with stronger and better game?Probably not, and that's what you guys are failing to realize, most dudes who are trying to holla at these chicks that you have prematurely deemed to be "out of your league," have probably said some incredibly weak and supplicant sh*t to her.

Is every chick going to like you? F*ck no. However, if you go in with a honest and sincere effort when you try to holla at her, there's nothing to be ashamed of, at least you made the attempt. You have got to stop thinking that hot women are some how better than you when they're obviously not. After all, how can a chick be better than you when they'll pay thousands of dollars to "Dr. Frankenstein," and have him insert foreign objects into their bodies during an evasive surgical procedure, or undergo a medical procedure that isn't even approved by the FDA to enhance their looks. 8's, 9's, and 10's, are the biggest attention fiends on the planet (as evident by all of the f*cking selfies that they take and post on their social media pages,) If a human being is in that much need of validation, how can she be possibly be "out of your league?"

 

[Who Dares Win]

You made your point clear and Im sure many will agree with you but I would like to ask you a question.

Do you believe you are out of some girls league?

 

[Konada]

You're never in a girl's league if you fail her 'Can I see myself fvcking this guy' test. It is subjective to all women so you never know until you make the approach.

 

[Maximus Rex]

I would like to ask you a question. Do you believe you are out of some girls league?

Yes.

 

[Mike32ct]

Good thread. It's a matter of perspective.

1. A guy could have the frame or belief that no female is out of his league. That's his opinion, and he can view things that way if he wishes.

2. But some females, of varying levels of looks, will believe that they are out out of his league because of his looks or status or whatever.

So both parties may have conflicting views. The guy might think he is well within his rights to approach her, but she might think this guy is not worthy of her and is bothering her or being "creepy."

 

[DiegoSantori]

Well, you can say there are no leagues, which will make you feel good, but the point is that the "league"-mindset is omnipresent and many people think that way.

As a result of this, you may be confident and tell yourself that there are no leagues and nobody is superior to you, but most people will subconsciously put you into a league, hate it or love it.

Your new flame will put you into a league. Her female friends will put you into a league and the way they talk about you depends on the league they've put you into.

Then she will compare you to the other guy who has been sending her text messages since Monday and the league he's playing in will determine if she's still interested in you or if she's going to replace you with him.

 

[Skyline]

I don't believe in Leagues but I believe in types. Types have nothing to do with status or how good you look, it's completely dependent on factors that you can't control like upbringing and race.

 

[SuckItUp]

There are different obstacles for each guy. A woman is out of your league if you feel she is ... That's why dressing well can mitigate/eliminate disqualification by appearance alone.

It's more an issue of access more than anything else. The highest quality women aren't unobtainable because of what they look like and/or status. They are unobtainable because they're not accessible.

 

[BrainDamage92]

As far as sleeping with a girl nobody is out of anyone's league, if its just sex. Any bum can fuk his boss's wife\daughter etc. Has happened to me.

Harsh reality is if it comes to a relationship, alot of girls are outta your league if you a bum like me. But who needs that anyway

Its about playing your cards right, and what you got up your sleeve, mine are first looks, when that dont work I reveal strenght, when that dont work the wittiness comes out, when that dont work I pull out the heavy guns which is musical ability. The heavy guns never fail but it feels like **** when you exploit art.

 

[ArcBound]

http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/05/a-league-of-your-own/

 

[amazingswayze]

the saying, "she's out of my league" is nothing more than a belief.

contrary to popular belief, it doesn't mean that the girl is too high value, but rather the man himself sees himself as not high enough value.

it's debatable if there's such things as leagues. mostly likely, yes.
But, as Meek Mill says,

"we don't fuk the same hoez, cause there's levels to this sh!t"

 

[G_Govan]

We can tell ourselves that there are no leagues but that doesn't make it true.

Everyone "sizes up" everyone, all day every day.

Not just when it comes to sex either, there are leagues for damn near anything.

If you look like Danny Devito you aren't in the same league as say, Margot Robbie when it comes to SMV. You could be a dare devil, billionaire, stunt man, rock star, genius and STILL not get any closer to closing this gap.

This doesn't mean you shouldn't put your best foot forward and pursue the best women you can, but there is a limit that everyone knows they have at an instinctual level. We tend to test this limit until we get frustrated with the results and settle.

Men get burned out when chasing women above their station. A lot of PUAs push the idea that you can get any woman you want and I believe they are either in denial or have an agenda.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I use to think so, but now? nah ain't no female out of my league. Its subjective like one poster said. While I may be better looking then average then a random female current boyfriend, she might share that same belief or view. I been turned down by females only to see them with multiple guys less attractive then me and other people I know in general. So no, no female is out of my league. And no man should believe that, like poster said play your cards correctly

 

[devilkingx2]

it's an easy question, there are two perspectives, only one matters: hers

from your perspective, a girl that's out of your league is anyone you think you couldn't get, for all of us here that's celebrities(I doubt there's anyone here kate upton would want anything to do with), anyone else depends on who you are as a person

all that actually matters however, is the girl's perspective. for example, there is this one girl who is completely into me, she's hotter than all my friends gfs and ex-gfs and definitely hotter than all of mine. not even my friends who are better with girls than me would have a chance with her 9 times out of 10

and yet, she's really into me... for some reason. so yeah i guess you could date kate upton, if for some reason she thought you were good enough for her, then you are.

 

[SmooveMooves]

There are leagues. There are levels to this shít. As much as I'd like to join the happy go lucky, 'you can get anything you set your mind to! speak. Confidence won't change reality. Like another poster mentioned, none of us are in the league for Scarlett Johannson or Margot Robbie.

However, the beauty of being a man is that this fact is not permanant. If any of us so wish, we can easily build our value and as a result 'level the playing field'. That being said, the moral is: You want the best chicks? You gotta be the best. That's how the world works, that's how nature has always work. There are some women that right now, we just don't have access to. But that doesn't mean we won't have access to them forever.

"The strong survive...

 

[Drummer93]

"Out of my league" is a term used by those who lack of confidence. It's basically saying I am not good enough for her. You could very well NOT be READY for her which most guys aren't because of their neediness. Clean it up, do the work and people will admire you.

 

[yungballa]

When you say you're out of the girls league, you're defeating yourself. Don't defeat yourself! You're gonna submit to defeat just because you think she's "out of your league"? I don't believe in that bull****. Why would you defeat yourself over something as trivial as that.

There's self improvement for a reason. You think you're out of her league then you are. You're already telling yourself you ain't good enough for that girl. See where that gets anyone. Just defeating yourself.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

A few thoughts on 'leagues'.

-Leagues are many and varied, all of which contribute to overall standings in the game of life.
-Men in general rarely consider other leagues beyond aesthetics and possibly personality.
-Some leagues for consideration:
>Aesthetics; personality; sense of humour; neediness; intellect; education; life experience; wealth; psychological and emotional stability/aptitude.

-Poor standing in one league may be mitigated by good standing in another; likewise the former may indeed neutralise the latter.
-Your own or another person's position within a given league is ultimately determined in the eye of the observer.

-A person's position within a given league might be changed and often very quickly. It is important to be headed in the right direction within a given league:

>Aesthetics: clean yourself up, go to the barbershop, throw out your old clothes and get new ones, work out, eat right.
>Personality/sense of humour: Read and watch interesting and amusing things. They don't have to be culturally popular, but they do have to be interesting to you. Be bored, and you become boring. These things eventually filter in to the subconscious and then flow out during conversation without us realising.
>Neediness: What we tell ourselves, we come to believe. What we believe, we come to live.
>Education: Read and get taught. Simple. For me, a classical intellect is the preference.
>Life experience: This doesn't mean just traveling and meeting new people. It means seeking out experience that humbles you, that enables you to reflect on everything you do have, that genuinely makes you more wise to the world. For me, one of the most eye-opening experiences was working in the community with guys who had suffered high level spinal chord injuries.
>Wealth: Get a new job. Get trained. Work hard. Get a new job. Be clever with your money. Simple.
>Psychology and emotion: Read theory, understand the self. Understand others. Be empathetic. Avoid unhappy and unlucky people; they will drain the energy out. Know that there are only ever two options: do something about it when you can; when nothing can be done, accept the situation and make the best of it you can. Move on.


In summary, this is why there are some real winners in life, those who seem to have it all. They are not just good-looking. They work hard and have the attitude to make the best of everything they have and everything life has to offer. Who's at the top of the league? Those who win. Who wins? Those who work the hardest.

 

[pyros]

of course there are leagues, any guy that has been trying to pick up women for a while has experienced it and understands it.

Yep, there may be a few girls that you consider out of your league that actually like you, but it doesnt happen that often.


Last night for example, I was dancing in a club and a three girls were dancing next to me, bumping me etc. They were around an HB7. Nice.

Then a while later, I saw a super hot russian chick that looked like a the perfect porn actress (around an HB8 or more). I looked at her, she looked at me...and she turned her face with a little 'disgust' in her expression.

See? I read somewhere that girls that are very attractive expect the best of men because...well, they can. The super cute/hote chicks that are physically outstanding want men that have everything: attractive, fit, tall, head full of hair, wealthy, interesting...

Some PUAS want to sell you the fantasy that you can pick any chick with the right attitude...which is...total bulls-hit LMAO. And then they upload videos in which the assault a cute chick, jump from behind, tell her he found her cute blah blah...and get her number. WHOAHHH amazing dude, where is the video in which you have sex with her??? oh there isnt right? cause you never fvcked her you assh-ole. --sight.

This is also why guys that go out to clubs etc, more often than not, wait until the club is about to close cause at that moment many women are wasted and they have lowered their standards at that time lol.

 

[marmel75]

Here's how I view things:

There is a "minimum standard" for looks every woman has. If you meet this standard you have a chance with her.This standard can be modified by other influences such as money, status, etc. But for the average guy with a normal job, these modifications don't come into play.

The closer to her "minimum standard" you are, the more effort it's going to take on your part via game, talking, whatever. You are going to have to work harder than a guy she thinks is "hot", who many times can do lots of things wrong and still get laid. The closer to her "minimum standard", the less room for error you have. You are going to have to be on point with everything. One mistake means you might be done. Even then, it's possible you might end up stuck as a backup option. The best hope in this situation is to move quickly, ie, if you meet at a party or a club, bang her that night as you have her attention then. Once removed from that area and out of sight, she then has a much bigger pool to choose from.

So I think it IS always possible depending on her minimum standards. If you meet them you have a chance. How much depends on where you fall in that category and if you can successfully strike while the iron is hot, so to speak.