Define Nice Guy Vs Respect for a girl

[Omen]

In one of my posts I was told I may be too much of a nice guy. So either bp1974, or others, tell me what you term as nice guy and at the same time where you draw the line.

Drawing the line from respect to nice guy?

How do you all handle this and find a happy medium?

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Nice guys let people walk over them and treat them like sh*t.

Respecting is NOT walking over people and treating them like sh*t, while making sure they don't walk over you.


Its hard sometimes, but I find the zero tolerance principle works. Minute some girl treats you like a doormat, show her you don't tolerate that sort of stuff by dumping her. (or talking to her if its not serious).

 

[DJGD]

Being a nice guy and having respect for women are two different things, as you have said. It could also be said that being a nice guy is having TOO much respect for women.

I think the easiest way to determine if you are a nice guy is if you treat women better than men. For example, you say "Sure thing!" and scramble frantically for your wallet when a girl asks you for a dollar for a buss ticket, but when a guy asks you just roll your eyes and tell them to f*** off.

I think my sister said it best when she was describing one of my mates. "He treats women as though they're too much, and men as though they're too little."

 

[trajhenkhet]

Respect everyone and don't be anyones doormat. One dosen't have to be supplicating to be respectful.

 

[Omen]

So if a girl asks YOU out, SHE should pay for the date. Would that be correct? As in context to not being a nice guy. If I pay, she thinks i'm a doormat?

I did this test once for the first time just to see how it went. I went out with a girl I have known for quite a while. We went to braums cause she wanted to get ice cream. And I had no cash on me cause I wanted to see if she wouldn't mind paying for ice cream, and also remember too the last time we went out, that I paid.

No problem what so ever and she didn't mind. She said I have enough to cover the both of us. Kind of made me feel good to know that she knew I shouldn't have to pay everytime.

And when we spent the rest the evening at her brothers, she went out and bought some Woodchuck and offered ME the beer.

I thought is that normal? I guess I just have never had someone be like that. As in offering me something instead of expecting something.