DEFIANCE! This show sucks.

[LiveFreeX]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/13/defiance-pilot-review

This show is terrible. It looks like they copied Terra Nova (which was also bad) and threw in everything they could from Revolution and Broken Skies and all the failed SOAP OPERA type Sci-Fi's they could find... what is it with the new trend to make Science Fiction into Soap Operas. Its terrible, the aliens are stupid and I really have no idea how they could build space ships to travel across the stars when the alien woman doctor refers to her woman patient as b1tch.

I've heard better dialogue come from a fart. Are people not tired of the 'strong, independent' woman leaders marching around screen pretending to be leaders of resistance forces... Where the hell is the realism? I've never seen a good woman leader as long as I've been working. I've seen a sh1t ton of woman managers drive businesses straight into the ground for their utter ineptitude...but I've yet to see an effective female leader/soldier.

Terra Nova, before it, was a show about semi-hot stupid broads saving the Earth by figuring out the solution to every problem at the last minute. Revolution is a show about a typical bossy teenage broad in a leather coat and bow, ordering around soldiers and making smart alec remarks to them, while she single handedly leads the resistance forces. Falling Skies is based around your typical white knight romance interspersed with some gun play and aliens. The new Battlestar Galactica remake had a strong independent single woman cast as the president and leader while the strong male leads 'Starbuck and Boomer' of the starfighter fleet were changed to.... drum roll... strong, independent, semi-bisexual women. It seems like everything to come out lately has been some cookie cutter, strong, independent ninja woman bvll**** with a weak beta male lead. The women never fail to somehow outsmart the stupid villians and show everyone just how smart and slutty they are. This series is no better, you have a woman president, a back talking smart ass prostitute, a former woman president, a conniving wife and a woman side kick ninja who has a tough outer exterior waiting to be cracked... oh yeah....and some loser white knight guys in there who they manipulate and order around, even the aliens are white knight AFC losers.

Nowhere in ANY series have I ever seen a quiet, shy, feminine woman. Its just mouthy know it all broads and weak, apologetic men.

Where the fvck is the money coming from to fund these terrible shows? What man would OK this sh1t? Doesn't anyone read the script before they give the go ahead on these? TV really sucks lately.

 

[goundra]

never heard of Golda Meir, or Margeret Thatcher,. eh?

 

[Who Dares Win]

Didnt see this show but I perfectly understand what you mean OP, it seems they fill the need to turn sci-fi and action series into dramma filled mindfvcks.

Strong empowered women and incompetant guys are the norm as much as useless dialogs which add nothing to the plot.

However battlestar galactica wasnt that bad and trust me my standard in terms on drama tolerance are pretty low (stopped watching the walking dead and sons of anarchy for this same reason).

You have the blonde cylon which despite being "strong" also shown pretty strong feelings toward Baltar as much as he did to her and sincerly I enjoyed their "love story" especially because of the luxury part.

Sure starbucks was a pain in the ass, any male character behaving the same would automatically being labelled the jerk but since she was a woman she was "cool".

Regarding your question in battlestar galactica there was a female which was exacly like that (the girl which loved captain apollo and which later kils herself).

Anyway yeah this women leading bands of badass soldiers are pretty ridicolous as if bossying around people automatically makes you a great leader, why not a children at this point?

 

[Fatal Jay]

come on now brah, tell me the last time you watched an above average tv show on sci-fi channel.........

I rest my case.

 

[Burroughs]

never heard of Golda Meir, or Margeret Thatcher,. eh?

you dated them right moron :crackup:

did you teach them long kicks faggot

 

[goundra]

look, you ****ing idiot. this is not about dating, moron, it's about a fvcking tv show, dipshyte. The guy says he knew of no competent female leaders, and I named a couple who are known worldwide. Now, if you DARE, punk, would you like to MEET ME sometime, and see how "badass", you really AINT?

 

[Burroughs]

hahaha goundra rambo faggot you're so mad

those long kicks ain't giving you peace of mind dude?

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[Down Low]

In the 17 years since it was first broadcast, there been not been a more prescient, foreboding passage in science fiction than this one:

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Homefront

SISKO: What's going on here?
OFFICER: Captain, we never meant for things to get out of hand.
JOSEPH: (in the kitchen area) What did you think would happen? Storming in here and accusing me and my grandson of being a couple of shape-shifters.
OFFICER: We never accused you of being a shape-shifter, Mister Sisko. We were just carrying out our orders. All family members of Starfleet personnel are required to submit to blood screenings. No exceptions.
JOSEPH: That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of. Do you believe that?
SISKO: I should. I signed the orders myself.
JOSEPH: Now why would you go and do a stupid thing like that?
SISKO: Dad, it has to be done.
JAKE: Grandpa, look, I'll take the test first. Go ahead.
(So the young officer takes his blood. It's okay.)
SISKO: Now me.
OFFICER: Sir, that's not necessary.
SISKO: Do it anyway.
(He's okay too.)
SISKO: It's your turn.
JOSEPH: Jake, do you think I'm a shape-shifter?
JAKE: Come on, Grandpa.
JOSEPH: Answer the question.
JAKE: No, I don't think you're a shape-shifter.
JOSEPH: At least somebody in my family has some sense.
SISKO: Dad!
JOSEPH: I don't want to hear about it. You take these two vampires and tell them to either sit down and grab a menu or get out of my restaurant.
SISKO: Jake, get them a menu.
OFFICER: But sir.
SISKO: I would recommend the shrimp Creole. Look, Dad
JOSEPH: I don't want to hear it.
(Sisko joins Joseph in the kitchen.)
SISKO: Listen to me. You have got to take the test.
JOSEPH: Why should I? If I were an enemy spy looking to replace someone, I think I could come up with better choices than an old chef.
SISKO: Yeah, you're probably right. But this isn't about you. We've got civilian families living on starships and Starfleet installations all over the Federation. The only way we can secure those facilities is to test everyone there, whether they wear a uniform or not.
JOSEPH: I'm not living on a Starfleet installation.
SISKO: Dad, if we're going to test the family members of one Starfleet officer, we must to test them all.
JOSEPH: You may want to test everyone, but that doesn't mean we all have to cooperate. I didn't take an oath to Starfleet. Neither did Jake or your sister or anyone in your family. We have rights, Ben, including the right to be as stubborn or thickheaded as we want.
SISKO: Damn it, Dad. Can't you cooperate just one time? You don't take your medication, you don't go to the doctor, you won't let Judith help you in the restaurant. Just one time, please do what you're asked.
JOSEPH: I wish I could, but what you're asking me to do is wrong. You can't go around making people prove they are who they say they are. That's no way to live and I'm not going to go along with it. Now, if you want to make yourself useful, start some water boiling for the shrimp.
SISKO: Come on, Dad. Don't be this way. If I have to, I will get a warrant
JOSEPH: And what? Hold me down and force me to give you my blood? Because that's the only way you'll get. Damn it. Now look what I've done.
(Joseph has cut his finger with his chopping knife. He puts it under the tap as Sisko stares at the blood left on the knife.)
JOSEPH: Jake?
JAKE: Yeah?
JOSEPH: I've got a dermal regenerator under the... Benjamin Lafayette Sisko! What the hell has gotten into your head? You actually thought I was one of them, didn't you?
SISKO: I don't know. I wasn't sure.
JOSEPH: This business has got you so twisted around you can't think straight. You're seeing shape-shifters everywhere. Maybe you ought to think about something for a minute. If I was a smart shape-shifter, a really good one, the first thing I would do would be to grab some poor soul off the street, absorb every ounce of his blood, and let it out on cue whenever someone like you tried to test me. Don't you see? There isn't a test that's been created a smart man can't find his way around. You aren't going to catch shape-shifters using some gadget. The only thing you can count on in this life is... [death].
(Joseph gasps in pain.)
JAKE: Grandpa!
(Sisko catches Joseph in his arms.)