Deadlift... reps per set, warm ups

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So I was wondering, when you guys deadlift, how many reps are you doing per set, and how many sets do you do?

Also, how do you breath when doing deads?

And lastly, deads are the first thing I do during the work out, so what do you guys do for warm ups (how many sets and at what percentage of weight)?

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I do lower back warmups on the machine and also isometric back squeezes (this is in addition to my standard warmup routine). As for breathing I exhale on the lift, breathe lightly but controlled while holding, and exhale letting the weight down.
 

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2 sets of 5 reps, or 1 set of 15 is what i normally alternate between

breathe in at the bottom, big breath, get a solid base, and pull


my typical warmup:
3-4 @ 45
7-8@135
3-5 @ 185
2-4 @ 225
2-4 @275
1 @ 315
1 @ 335
1 @ 355
workset @ 365 - 385
 

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I follow a similar warmup pattern to semag. I'll do a warmup set with just the bar, then add a plate each side and do another set, then add another plate etc.

Hey some great lifts there semag.

385 lbs is a powerful lift - Congrats!
 
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The reps? Do as many as you need to feel a pump in your legs or back... and rarely in both. You should feel slightly queasy since all the blood has rushed to the muscles that are working.

Sets? As many as you need to do. Don't go nuts though more is not better. If you give 110% you will feel like **** later. Give as close to 100% as you can without going over otherwise you may be doing too much damage to the muscles.

This is called instinctive training. You cannot base your workout on numbers, people don't work that way and you wont always be able to do so many sets of so many reps. Some days may be hard and you have to cut back, some days you might be brimming with energy. So what do you do? You finished 2 sets and you stll feel nothing.. you can push more. Do you quict cause its written on the paper? HELL NO! You keep going until you feel it.

Use your instincts, they are never wrong.

I generally do a warmup with 1/2 the weight (not including the bar, thats just pointless) for about 10 reps or so until I get my heart rate up and my muscles feel a little looser. Then I put the whole weight ant do my best to go for 3 sets. First set I go until I feel a moderate "pump" (queasiness if deads or squats). This happens around 12 reps. If i go alot I up the weight. Next set I try to match the reps at the higher weight (never works but its fun trying). Then the third set I just go as much as I can until my form starts to break... once I start to get sloppy I know that every rep afterwards is counterproductive and the poor form will lead to injury.

As you can see there is very little structure to my workout, there are a few simple rules I devised for myself but thats it.
 

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Originally posted by brucevangeorge
The reps? Do as many as you need to feel a pump in your legs or back
As many as you need to feel a pump? Don't listen to this advice.

I started cutting a couple of weeks ago so I'm doing 5x5.

First warmup set is 50% of maximum weight.
Second warmup set is 75% of maximum weight.
Then I do my 5 work sets.

Breath in before you're about to lift the barbell, breath out when you are standing upright with shoulders straight. (If your shoulders are rounded at the top of the lift, you may have to lean back a bit.)
 
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Instead of saying "don't listen to that" why don't you try to show him a better way to do it? Prove why your way is better and moreefficient. That is the best way I know of, I used to do sets and reps from a program but I found a slightly more efficient way to work out the muscles. We are all trying to help and improve each other here.

In fact, now I'm kind of curious. I would like to know if there is a better workout routine, but I would like some reasoning behind it not "Just because".

Oh and rudygee, you better do the proper breathing like Salvator explained... (you'll kow why when you do it wrong, its not fun feeling like your head will explode because of all the blood pressure).
 

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One set, high reps - 1x10 is what I use. It depends on the weight you're pushing - you shouldn't be able to manage two sets at backbreaking intensity.

Warm up with a light weight or even just the bar (high reps), then a slightly heavier weight for reps again, then do progressively heavier doubles or singles until you're 40-50lbs away from your workset - basically what semag said. :)
 

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Ok, Thanks for all the replies guys. The reason I was asking about the reps/set thing was because I used to do them exactly the same as I did my other muscles... 3 sets, reps between 8-12.

But alot of times I would see people suggesting to keep deadlifts in the singles (does that mean only one rep?) and I wasnt too sure if I should keep the weight low and do 8-12, or increase the weight to the point where Im only doing 1-2 reps.


Seems like everyone agrees on the warmup and breathing...thanks alot!
 

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Originally posted by rudygee2
But alot of times I would see people suggesting to keep deadlifts in the singles (does that mean only one rep?) and I wasnt too sure if I should keep the weight low and do 8-12, or increase the weight to the point where Im only doing 1-2 reps.
1-2 reps is asking for injury, especially at your max weight. Work with weights you can control for at least six or more reps.

Even in my DC split I prefer to do one single high-rep set for deadlifts.

Think of it this way.. what's gonna make you a bigger person, deadlifting 500 for 1-2 or deadlifting 500 for 10? :D
 

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I normally do 1x10+ reps, if I manage more than 10 reps then I increase by 2.5 kg and work until I can lift 10 reps with that weight. I like high rep deads more because you can exhaust yourself more than lifting lighter and you can lift with better form because the weight is lighter = more muscles. I started doing singles too meaning I do one rep, let go of the bar and then rework the whole setup and lift again. You lift less but for me it feels alot better.

I inhale before I lift, exhale and inhale on the top and then return bar to floor.
 
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And one more thing: use proper form! Its best to have your back slightly arched backwards, not forwards like you have a hump.

Beware the back injury! And if you feel alot of pressure on the lower back decrease the weight or use a lifting belt.
 

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Work with weights you can control for at least six or more reps.
Nah 4-6 reps is what you should be doing in my opinion, as long as you keep a good form and can preform 4 reps its perfectly safe.
 

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Originally posted by brucevangeorge
1.And one more thing: use proper form! Its best to have your back slightly arched backwards, not forwards like you have a hump.

2.Beware the back injury! And if you feel alot of pressure on the lower back decrease the weight or use a lifting belt.
1. Yes, if you fu<k up your form with deadlifts, you are at a very high risk of injury.

2. I disagree with using a belt, as it takes pressure off your back, and causes it to get weaker. If you are an older bodybuilder it's accetpable, but not at a young age.
 

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I found that my back has gotten alot stronger since I started using a lifting belt, especially the lower back. While I do agree that it takes some of the pressure off, using a belt allows you to lift a helluva lot more weight. And you can avoid ay hernias.
 

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Ok, cool. So lets say i do something like 1x10 or 2x5 or whatever, are you guys doing each rep RIGHT after one another, or regripping and stuff?
 

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Originally posted by brucevangeorge
Use your instincts, they are never wrong.
This is absolutely the worst mindset you could have in the weight room (let alone life in general).

There is no "weight lifting instinct." The reason why workout programs vary so much is not because people are so drastically different -- they aren't. It's because there has been very little research in the field, and even some of the "experts" make simple mistakes all of the time that become widespread as common knowledge.

There are tried and true methods for gaining mass, and some work better than others. Some work better for some people than others -- but only to a limited extent. You should not go into the weight room without a plan and a system. You should start with something that you can depend on to work and then modify it to suit your individual needs, but the standard rules of about 8 reps and 2-3 sets per exercise should not be overlooked.

There is a science to weight lifting, just like other fields of physiology.

With deadlifts, I prefer not to use a belt because your lower back is a very important muscle that you have to depend on for other exercises, and if you just give it a little while it should catch up quickly and then you will feel your legs getting hit hard as well. The same thing goes for gloves. Gloves allow you to use a weaker grip, which will decrease the amount of development you get in your forearms as a side effect of exercises like deadlifts, and if you just give it a little time your grip will get strong enough to lift a good weight without gloves.

Warmup sets are very important with compound exercises because there are so many muscle groups that you hit and you don't want to schock them all into doing a workset all at once... you want to get blood circulating to them so they are ready to be strained. Also, you should rest for a bit longer on compound exercises like deadlifts because you will have done a lot of anaerobic work and you'll need some extra oxygen to get rid of the lactic acid.
 

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Anecdotally I have noticed that hamstrings respond best to low reps and low volume. Go heavy (with good form, of course). It really helps to thicken your traps, back (especially lower), shoulders and even triceps.

Also, if you find that deads aren't cutting it for your hamstrings there's always the HELL of glute-ham raises as an alternative.
 

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Originally posted by rudygee2
are you guys doing each rep RIGHT after one another, or regripping and stuff?
I tend to re-grip after every rep rather than not let the weight touch the floor. So then the barbell is dead on the floor (hence the name deadlift).
 
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