Dating Gurus' Ugly Girlfriends and Wives exposed

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Holy ****. Never seen or heard of this guy before but, IMO, this dude is a straight clown.

First of all, it's very had to rate a girl by seeing one pic. Not to mention some of them are wearing shades, and you can't see their bodies, hair's in a pony tail, etc. LOL. And, if someone's married and the wife has had a kid....yeah, that woman is probably past her prime. It doesn't mean you divorce her. Anyway, I get the point but this guy is WAY over the top.

Also a steady rotation of ten to fifteen 9's or something like that? A steady rotation of threesomes and foursomes? Give me a break.

Either way, this guy's calibration is way off. Something's not right with him.
 

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You know John Anthony is in the closet?, in another video he admitted to sleeping with transgenders. He is full of ****, and he is a complete psycho.
Honestly, his girl in that dress, had some manly features IMO.

The fact that these so called “PUAs/dating roaches”, are married to average looking women tells you that PUA/game is 100% BS, because if PUA/game worked (it doesn’t), then these so called “gurus” should be dating the hottest women, but they are not.
I really didn't see any "average" looking women. It was hard to tell by the pics, but a few of those could easily be 7's IMO, depending how they look in person and/or dolled up and what not. That one he claimed was a 3... you could only see half her face because of the sunglasses and no body shot.

Anyways, as far as these dudes not living up to the hype, I think there's 2 things going on here:

#1) it's the old saying "those who can't do, teach."

But mainly:

#2) a lot of these guys were just bad to begin with but they learned game and it substantially improved their experiences with women. Didn't mean they were going to be marrying 9's but they went from dating 4's and 5's to dating 6's and 7's.

Also, I know he pre-emptively knocked what I'm about to say. But f you're planning on spending the rest of your life with one woman, personality trumps looks by a wide margin. Yes, it's possible to get both. But it's like people who live with an ocean view. Yeah, it's great view but it's always the same view.
 
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Cope in my experience and maybe because you are in AZ where the girls are arguably the dumbest in the country. I have found plenty of hot girls that have a lot going for them. More importantly, men should not be taking advice from losers who date and end up with busted up women.
Maybe it is AZ women but the 9s and 10s seem to have attitudes and are all about me, me, me more then other women. They take a year to get ready and always want to take selfies and stop to check themselves out in the mirror. Plus you have tons of guys always looking and trying to steal your girl away from you. I would take a 7 any day over dealing that bs.
 

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Maybe it is AZ women but the 9s and 10s seem to have attitudes and are all about me, me, me more then other women. They take a year to get ready and always want to take selfies and stop to check themselves out in the mirror. Plus you have tons of guys always looking and trying to steal your girl away from you.
That sounds like a lot of women in Phoenix, especially the parts of Phoenix Metro where the under 30 types tend to be. I think we've both mentioned this topic in the Phoenix thread. In my first post on that thread, I had a "Good Looking Women, Bad Attitudes" section


I would take a 7 any day over dealing that bs.
Even a lot of 7s offer that BS.
 

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He is not wrong. But I find it funny that this chubby dude is broadcasting his words of wisdom from (literally) a closet and has a girl who is quite obviously a hired escort pretending to be his girlfriend.
 

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Most of Rollo's examples and personal life stories date back to the 80's and 90's. His info is still on the money though. While I agree that most of these guru's are fake AF, Rollo never claimed to be a guru he just decidied to share and monetise his experience which if you follow work's 90% of the time.

And yea it woud have been nice to see his wife 25+years ago.
Yes, it could be that she just had the type of face that ages poorly. She has always been in shape though.
 

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Yeah, Rollo's with a wife and kids and is happy (apparently). You're going to analyze her looks over the last 25 years and try to negate him on that?

I'm not a fan of Rollo, just cuz I mostly don't agree with the **** he writes. However, if he's happy with a wife and kid, good for him.

This idiot's outlook and priorities are so scrambled. He's the biggest clown I've seen in this market. I'd love to run into him out in public. Even if it would be just for the chance to be amused.
 
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He is not wrong. But I find it funny that this chubby dude is broadcasting his words of wisdom from (literally) a closet and has a girl who is quite obviously a hired escort pretending to be his girlfriend.
Throwing stones while living in a glass house. I’ve been around women that he is so proud of. Let’s just say there is zero chance of being anything more than a john ;)
Threads like theses are clickbait. Get out there, be real, don’t post FR’s that you wish could have happened.
 

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He is not wrong. But I find it funny that this chubby dude is broadcasting his words of wisdom from (literally) a closet and has a girl who is quite obviously a hired escort pretending to be his girlfriend.
exactly. This is kind of my view when it comes to anything John Anthony related.
He $hits on other PUA's girlfriends etc, but the he moves half way around the world so he can get laid easier and ends up with 'girlfriends' in his videos who look like pros who are being held at gunpoint. It's like they wince when he tries to touch them lol

The other hypocritical/strange thing about him is he kind of does the same with PUA advice.

He makes endless videos like 'negs don't work!', 'pushpull is ridiculous. Don't do it!', 'cold reads are super cringe. Never do it!' so he is essentially dismissing game. For what it's worth I kind of agree with them things not working, but i'm not selling PUA/game courses! He's essentially saying 'game doesn't work! But buy my game course!'.

I've seen his courses. I'm still baffled at how people say things like 'Johns game tips are good'. There's just nothing there. His game is exactly the same game someone would run if they'd never heard of game. Not surprising since as I said earlier, he dismissed all ouytergame techniques that the community know of

The only thing he does that would at least qualify as outergame is when he lies to girls about being a DJ or whatever. That would at least fall under the umbrella of a dhv lol

When someone says they learnt alot about game from him, I worry about their level of social skills.

Not to mention Johns infields are some of the worst i've seen. Seems genuinely awkward and very nervous. Mumbling at a million miles an hour. After he's told a girl he's a famous DJ, he's essentially giggling things like 'Can I touch your butt?'. She says 'no'. He says 'I was just kidding' (clearly butt hurt). Offers her free drinks at the party he's going too. Tells her she's hot 50 times. Awkwardly asks her if he can touch her ass again. etc. It's painful to watch
 

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exactly. This is kind of my view when it comes to anything John Anthony related.
He $hits on other PUA's girlfriends etc, but the he moves half way around the world so he can get laid easier and ends up with 'girlfriends' in his videos who look like pros who are being held at gunpoint. It's like they wince when he tries to touch them lol

The other hypocritical/strange thing about him is he kind of does the same with PUA advice.

He makes endless videos like 'negs don't work!', 'pushpull is ridiculous. Don't do it!', 'cold reads are super cringe. Never do it!' so he is essentially dismissing game. For what it's worth I kind of agree with them things not working, but i'm not selling PUA/game courses! He's essentially saying 'game doesn't work! But buy my game course!'.

I've seen his courses. I'm still baffled at how people say things like 'Johns game tips are good'. There's just nothing there. His game is exactly the same game someone would run if they'd never heard of game. Not surprising since as I said earlier, he dismissed all ouytergame techniques that the community know of

The only thing he does that would at least qualify as outergame is when he lies to girls about being a DJ or whatever. That would at least fall under the umbrella of a dhv lol

When someone says they learnt alot about game from him, I worry about their level of social skills.

Not to mention Johns infields are some of the worst i've seen. Seems genuinely awkward and very nervous. Mumbling at a million miles an hour. After he's told a girl he's a famous DJ, he's essentially giggling things like 'Can I touch your butt?'. She says 'no'. He says 'I was just kidding' (clearly butt hurt). Offers her free drinks at the party he's going too. Tells her she's hot 50 times. Awkwardly asks her if he can touch her ass again. etc. It's painful to watch
1300 women in 30 countries lol. His girlfriend is an escort, it so obvious. Everything is says is trash, what a looser. He is entertaining though, he bash puas girlfriends but he himself looks like sh1t.
Funny guy.
 
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I know John Anthony Lifestyle is a controversial figure but I do think he has a good point. Why should those of us who wish to date and sleep with beautiful women take advice from "gurus" that can't get one themselves. People cope too much when they say "well average girls have better personalities". In my experience, that is BS. Whether you disagree with me or not, I just thought that this reveal was very telling.

This guy is a clown. He does have a valid point about gurus trying to sell you their ****, but then he almost immediately tries to sell his own course. Also he's straight bashing these women's looks which is highly subjective, they're not that bad, he's greatly exaggerating in the best case. His girl is hot but honestly not everyone's taste and as others have said there's a good chance she's hired anyway. He makes a point to bash others for hiring girls but what you say of others reflects on yourself.

On more attractive girls having worse personality that has been mostly consistent with my personal experience but there's always exceptions. Its makes sense logically tho if you're hot you don't need a personality, everyone loves you already, if not you have to work harder to be likeable. There's science that attractive people do have it easier in a lot of cases.
 

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I know John Anthony Lifestyle is a controversial figure but I do think he has a good point. Why should those of us who wish to date and sleep with beautiful women take advice from "gurus" that can't get one themselves. People cope too much when they say "well average girls have better personalities". In my experience, that is BS. Whether you disagree with me or not, I just thought that this reveal was very telling.

It's a 20min. I fast-forwarded just for the girls part.

Guy from the video is an effeminate loser. Dude wears a tank-top having the shoulders of a bird. Trashes everybody but makes a 20min video with no substance, just to show a prostitute in the end. I would be embarrassed to show them to my friends/family. Imagine how much of a loser to think "I'm showing this prostitute to the world as receipt".

I'm reading Rollo's book Rational Male. Nothing new so far (for somebody my age) but it has substance. I tried watching something from his podcast/youtube but it's bad. He talks in circles for too long. It's a waste of time.


What we should learn from this thread is that you shouldn't spend money or time with such "gurus".

As far as "game", I would describe as being smooth and knowing what to do/say in front of a girl to increase your chances of sleeping with her. But there is no magic pill. If you're a 5'2 Indian (even famous Billionaire), good luck trying to get a LTR with a beautiful White girl.
 

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Your LTRs with your 9s are as good as your game it.
Fcking is easy. LTR game is were the trenches are. Plate game snd LTR game are like casino games. Slot machines verses the high stakes table.
Even celebrities and powerful men have trouble maintaining LTRs with 9s and 10s, so I am going to be really skeptical about some random guy on the internet claiming it’s easy lol.
 

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If you're a 5'2 Indian (even famous Billionaire), good luck trying to get a LTR with a beautiful White girl.
It's pretty much always been OVER for ShortEthnicCels.
 
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