date today. is this okay what i said?

[tony-montana]

me says (12:17 AM):
*alright so gimme a call or whatever tomorrow let me know when ur ready. i'll make my way down to the train station
her says (12:18 AM):
*no problems. ill let you know
her says (12:18 AM):
*im off to bed. its after midnighttt.
me says (12:18 AM):
*thats where i was about to go...
me says (12:18 AM):
*oh and.. make sure you wear something nice FOR ME
me says (12:18 AM):
*
her says (12:18 AM):
*hrmm, ill think about it.
her says (12:19 AM):
*coz i do exactly do the whole dress up bimbo thing.
her says (12:19 AM):
*i think jeans and a shirt will suffice
me says (12:19 AM):
*jeans is sexy.
her says (12:19 AM):
*hrmmm maybe
her says (12:19 AM):
*im not sexy
her says (12:19 AM):
*so dont expect it
me says (12:19 AM):
*pft. as if you aren't. anyway... good night SEXY sarah talk to you ... today - goodnight
her says (12:20 AM):
*lol if you say so. im very very average.
her says (12:20 AM):
*good night


- that's not usually what i would say to a girl. cause i'm always nice and polite but i didn't like her calling me "mate" made me feel like i was in the friendzone and i'm sick of being the friend. so i used someones advice in a previous post:

Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about. Let's say you did have her phone number and you were talking to her on the phone about the date. I'll highlight the "sexual parts" in bold.

You:So I'll meet up at so and so place at 6:00 o'clock.
her:Ok,that sounds good.
You:Make sure you wear something nice FOR ME.
her:Something nice for you?
you:Well yeah. Hey look,I stepped to you. I asked you out. I'm the one that risked getting turned down,you know what I'm saying? Hey,if I can do all that,the least you can do is look pretty for me.
When I take a woman out,I want her to look good. I want to feel something when I look at her,so look nice FOR ME
her:Alright,I think I can find something you'll like.


There. You see? SEXUAL,NOT VULGAR OR OBSCENE.

This is just the right blend.

It's not too over the top to the point of offending her and turning her off,and it's not too weak or void of sexual energy to the point of her putting you in the friendzone.

Sexual,not perverted. You get it?

did i do good? it sounded like she didn't like what i said to her?

 

[f283000]

me says (12:17 AM):
*alright so gimme a call or whatever tomorrow let me know when ur ready. i'll make my way down to the train station

You put yourself in a position of weakness and needyness asking her to call you. You need to be a man and tell her to be there at a set time and place. Women want guys that take charge. What if she takes longer to get ready? what if she doesn't call? what are you going to do then? this is why you never tell a woman to give you a call in this sort of situation. You have to keep the control of the date yourself.

you: meet me at the train station at 3. I'll call you when i'm there.

That's how you keep it plain and simple, take charge showing you are a man, and you will call her not the other way around. You keep the power not her.

her says (12:19 AM):
*im not sexy
her says (12:19 AM):
*so dont expect it
me says (12:19 AM):
*pft. as if you aren't. anyway... good night SEXY sarah talk to you ... today - goodnight

This is also bad. She is seeking validation from you and you are rewarding her and why? what has she done for you? nothing yet! Basically by saying she is not sexy then you replying telling her that she is you are falling straight for her trap. You are already showing too much interest and rewarding her with statements. You can't be rewarding her with such statements just yet.

Don't reward women unless they earn it. A reward can be a compliment. You shouldn't be complimenting specially before your date.

her says (12:18 AM):
*im off to bed. its after midnighttt.
me says (12:18 AM):
*thats where i was about to go...
me says (12:18 AM):
*oh and.. make sure you wear something nice FOR ME

this is also bad. She was trying to end the conversation and you kept talking to her. You never let them end the conversation, you have to do it! why? it keeps you in control and keeps them wanting more (and shows you got other things to do).

You should have done this

you: i gotta go, make sure you wear something nice FOR ME, bye (short and sweet, not giving her a chance to reply to your dress nice thing thus avoiding the silly conversation after that).

end calls/texts is simple: Tell them you have to go (don't tell them where), say bye, ignore any message after that (stick to your guns). Even if she replies with something which might seem important still ignore it! it will make you more masculine in her eyes and let her know that you stick to what you say you are going to do (and that you are not always available).

 

[Igetit!]

+1 rep. f283000.


F283000 is right. You've got to take the power position man.

You have to lead.

You have to take charge.

You have to be in control.

Women want a leader,not someone they have to lead.


Also,you didn't seem to be in control of the conversation. I counted the number of "me says" versus the number of "her says",and the count was 10 to 6 in her favor.

That little "wear something nice FOR ME" comment was good,however,you seemed to say it sort of passively. Remember.it's not only what you say,but how you say it.

I take it this must be another girl over the internet. The thing that seemed odd to me was when she kept saying that she's "very,very average"

That's weird,but I think it may also be a good thing. It was like she didn't want you to get your hopes up too high and be let down when you meet her.

That to me does seem like you're somewhat in the power position,but you need to PUSH IT. You say you don't want to end up in the friendzone again. Then you need to direct the conversation in a more romantic/sexual direction. I would have been all over her in that conversation.

When she said she was off to bed because it was after midnight,I would have busted on her with something like,"Off to bed? What are you,a senior citizen? You live in a old folks home or something? What do you mean you're off to bed? The fun doesn't start til after midnight".

Bust on her a bit,tease her. Be playful. This isn't an appointment to the doctor's office you're trying to set up,it's a date. The way you act and behave NOW will influence her interest level in showing up to the date.

The way I do it,I bust and tease AND direct it towards a sexual/romantic outcome AT THE SAME TIME.

When you told her to wear something nice FOR YOU,then she said she'll think about it,I would have come back at her with something like,"Woah.woah...think about it? Look,I want you to look good FOR ME. I'm not saying you have to get dressed up like you're going to some upscale,5 star restaurant,or anything like that. Just something that looks good. Something that if I were to see you out in the public somewhere,would make attracted to you and want to approach and talk to you".


There. You see how I direct the convo onto us? You see how I keep it on a romantic,sexual vein? This will keep you out of the friendzone.

You have to assert yourself,project your masculinity.

This has to be established FIRST. If not,if you just let the conversation "drift" off onto other random topic,BAM,it's friendzone city.


Another thing I noticed was you seem "scared" of offending her.


GET THIS...

Your FEAR will turn women off. You're "scared" of saying something that will make her lose interest in you. Well that "fear" will turn them off.

It's better to be cool and confident and SAY SOMETHING OFFENSIVE,than to be nervous,scared,shaking and twitching and SAY EVERYTHING RIGHT.

You get that?

It's better to be relaxed and calm and SAY SOMETHING BAD,than to be nervous and scared and SAY EVERYTHING RIGHT.


I know it sounds crazy,but it's true.

It just goes back to what I've been saying every since I first joined up here.

Women are emotional. They feel. And whatever emotion you're expressing,they'll feel it too. The emotions/vibes you give off will overshadow any words you say. That's why it doesn't matter if "technically" you say everything right. If you're nervous,frightened,and about to wet your pants,all that negative energy and bodylanguage will overtake the words you say.

You being uncomfortable will make her uncomfortable.

You won't even have to open your mouth,and it'll already be over.

You need to stop being scared of offending her,and just TALK.

just be cool and relax.

 

[PectoralisMajor]

dont reward with compliments when she keeps putting herself down. MOST men do that....you're not showing good game.

she's being awkward with her chat by putting herself down all the time. WHY's it all about her, all the time. not the type of chick that's very attractive, imagine if you spoke about yourself all the time?

shift the focus from her all the time, onto neutral topics that you BOTH find entertaining. find something in common.

Rekon she's going to be a tough cookie to crack with your existing game.

 

[youbaby11]

+1 rep. f283000.


F283000 is right. You've got to take the power position man.

You have to lead.

You have to take charge.

You have to be in control.

Women want a leader,not someone they have to lead.


Also,you didn't seem to be in control of the conversation. I counted the number of "me says" versus the number of "her says",and the count was 10 to 6 in her favor.

That little "wear something nice FOR ME" comment was good,however,you seemed to say it sort of passively. Remember.it's not only what you say,but how you say it.

I take it this must be another girl over the internet. The thing that seemed odd to me was when she kept saying that she's "very,very average"

That's weird,but I think it may also be a good thing. It was like she didn't want you to get your hopes up too high and be let down when you meet her.

That to me does seem like you're somewhat in the power position,but you need to PUSH IT. You say you don't want to end up in the friendzone again. Then you need to direct the conversation in a more romantic/sexual direction. I would have been all over her in that conversation.

When she said she was off to bed because it was after midnight,I would have busted on her with something like,"Off to bed? What are you,a senior citizen? You live in a old folks home or something? What do you mean you're off to bed? The fun doesn't start til after midnight".

Bust on her a bit,tease her. Be playful. This isn't an appointment to the doctor's office you're trying to set up,it's a date. The way you act and behave NOW will influence her interest level in showing up to the date.

The way I do it,I bust and tease AND direct it towards a sexual/romantic outcome AT THE SAME TIME.

When you told her to wear something nice FOR YOU,then she said she'll think about it,I would have come back at her with something like,"Woah.woah...think about it? Look,I want you to look good FOR ME. I'm not saying you have to get dressed up like you're going to some upscale,5 star restaurant,or anything like that. Just something that looks good. Something that if I were to see you out in the public somewhere,would make attracted to you and want to approach and talk to you".


There. You see how I direct the convo onto us? You see how I keep it on a romantic,sexual vein? This will keep you out of the friendzone.

You have to assert yourself,project your masculinity.

This has to be established FIRST. If not,if you just let the conversation "drift" off onto other random topic,BAM,it's friendzone city.


Another thing I noticed was you seem "scared" of offending her.


GET THIS...

Your FEAR will turn women off. You're "scared" of saying something that will make her lose interest in you. Well that "fear" will turn them off.

It's better to be cool and confident and SAY SOMETHING OFFENSIVE,than to be nervous,scared,shaking and twitching and SAY EVERYTHING RIGHT.

You get that?

It's better to be relaxed and calm and SAY SOMETHING BAD,than to be nervous and scared and SAY EVERYTHING RIGHT.


I know it sounds crazy,but it's true.

It just goes back to what I've been saying every since I first joined up here.

Women are emotional. They feel. And whatever emotion you're expressing,they'll feel it too. The emotions/vibes you give off will overshadow any words you say. That's why it doesn't matter if "technically" you say everything right. If you're nervous,frightened,and about to wet your pants,all that negative energy and bodylanguage will overtake the words you say.

You being uncomfortable will make her uncomfortable.

You won't even have to open your mouth,and it'll already be over.

You need to stop being scared of offending her,and just TALK.

just be cool and relax.

saved for later reading as a reminder

 

[youbaby11]

+1 rep. f283000.


F283000 is right. You've got to take the power position man.

You have to lead.

You have to take charge.

You have to be in control.

Women want a leader,not someone they have to lead.


Also,you didn't seem to be in control of the conversation. I counted the number of "me says" versus the number of "her says",and the count was 10 to 6 in her favor.

That little "wear something nice FOR ME" comment was good,however,you seemed to say it sort of passively. Remember.it's not only what you say,but how you say it.

I take it this must be another girl over the internet. The thing that seemed odd to me was when she kept saying that she's "very,very average"

That's weird,but I think it may also be a good thing. It was like she didn't want you to get your hopes up too high and be let down when you meet her.

That to me does seem like you're somewhat in the power position,but you need to PUSH IT. You say you don't want to end up in the friendzone again. Then you need to direct the conversation in a more romantic/sexual direction. I would have been all over her in that conversation.

When she said she was off to bed because it was after midnight,I would have busted on her with something like,"Off to bed? What are you,a senior citizen? You live in a old folks home or something? What do you mean you're off to bed? The fun doesn't start til after midnight".

Bust on her a bit,tease her. Be playful. This isn't an appointment to the doctor's office you're trying to set up,it's a date. The way you act and behave NOW will influence her interest level in showing up to the date.

The way I do it,I bust and tease AND direct it towards a sexual/romantic outcome AT THE SAME TIME.

When you told her to wear something nice FOR YOU,then she said she'll think about it,I would have come back at her with something like,"Woah.woah...think about it? Look,I want you to look good FOR ME. I'm not saying you have to get dressed up like you're going to some upscale,5 star restaurant,or anything like that. Just something that looks good. Something that if I were to see you out in the public somewhere,would make attracted to you and want to approach and talk to you".


There. You see how I direct the convo onto us? You see how I keep it on a romantic,sexual vein? This will keep you out of the friendzone.

You have to assert yourself,project your masculinity.

This has to be established FIRST. If not,if you just let the conversation "drift" off onto other random topic,BAM,it's friendzone city.


Another thing I noticed was you seem "scared" of offending her.


GET THIS...

Your FEAR will turn women off. You're "scared" of saying something that will make her lose interest in you. Well that "fear" will turn them off.

It's better to be cool and confident and SAY SOMETHING OFFENSIVE,than to be nervous,scared,shaking and twitching and SAY EVERYTHING RIGHT.

You get that?

It's better to be relaxed and calm and SAY SOMETHING BAD,than to be nervous and scared and SAY EVERYTHING RIGHT.


I know it sounds crazy,but it's true.

It just goes back to what I've been saying every since I first joined up here.

Women are emotional. They feel. And whatever emotion you're expressing,they'll feel it too. The emotions/vibes you give off will overshadow any words you say. That's why it doesn't matter if "technically" you say everything right. If you're nervous,frightened,and about to wet your pants,all that negative energy and bodylanguage will overtake the words you say.

You being uncomfortable will make her uncomfortable.

You won't even have to open your mouth,and it'll already be over.

You need to stop being scared of offending her,and just TALK.

just be cool and relax.

saved for later reading as a reminder