Dad said get lost

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In 1988 I was 7 years old, my dad just came from 7 years of prison. From what I remember he served for corruption, in what is now known as operation Ocean, back in USSR. I remember visiting my dad several times in prison, with my mom. He carved from wood two toy cars for me. My dad’s family has two uncles, and at the time his mom and his dad, none of them visited him, only my mom and I ever visited him. Soon after my dad returned from prison he started beating on my mom, from what I understand now my mom was cheating on him. They got divorced, mom won custody. My dad was there but he never stopped blaming my mom, he calls her back stabber and cheater. In 1996 me and my mom moved to United States, and we lived here since.

I was an AFC until very recently, my dad is 60+ and he is still an AFC. I got my AFC syndrome from my dad. I had to learn everything from sites like sosuave and books such as pooks. I’ve grown considerably, as far as spiritual, mental, and material aspect of me goes. Recently I decided I don’t want to have children in United States, instead I’d move to Russia and have kids here. This is due to several different reasons which I rather not discuss. Response from my dad was very disappointing. I thought we’d live together for a start, until I get my own place, you know, we’d go to places and have some good fun. When I called him he cursed me.

In Russia people are what we call “signed” to live in certain address. Once you are signed to live in certain address, no one can kick you out. I am signed to live where my dad lives. My dad owns a three bedroom apartment and a two story dacha, which I helped build him. I called him the other day telling him I’m coming over, instead of being happy, he cursed me. He said he have been married for four years and is happy with his new wife. He is still angry at my mother, who was the only one visiting him in prison for seven years far away in the arctic. Basically from what I gather he has forsaken us, and is blaming us for ruining his life.

Recently my mom send a one use camera to him to take pictures of her mom and her family. Pictures he send us showed frames off centered with fat guy in the center smiling. I didn’t understand the deal with that until my recent talk with my dad. It appears he was saying in those pictures that he is fine, laughing at us, or at least that’s what mattered to him. Basically it all coming in to paint a picture of my dad, he forsaken us, he don’t want to see his son anymore. He’s more preoccupied with small ****ty things such as me staying in his apartment forever, which I don’t want. What else do you expect from a 60 year old AFC?

Everything has come clear to me recently. I realized how much my mother
loves me, and that there is absolutely no love from my father, nor there was any love from him for me in the past. Basically I decided what I want to do with him, I will just forget him, never talk to him again, never would care about him, never let this little **** man down there get me down on his level.

There is this feeling over me. I have grown so much, my dad is still what he was in 1988. In a way me being successful is letting my dad win. Me simply existing is letting my dad win.
 

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NO_BODY said:
There is this feeling over me. I have grown so much, my dad is still what he was in 1988. In a way me being successful is letting my dad win. Me simply existing is letting my dad win.
Bad mindset. You being successful despite your dad ever being there for you, in no way shape or form means he wins. There is no winning or losing here. You being successful means YOU win. It doesnt mean shyt what that means to, or about your dad.

My situation is different than yours, but I understand where your coming from. I was pretty much abandoned by my dad at a young age. He claims my mom cheated on him. I dont know, or really care if she really did or not. She probably did. he was a small part of my life for a few years between 11 and 17, then we fell out, and I havent talked to him since. I have a stepdad, who is awesome and great, but he never really took on that 'dad' role. He didnt teach me how to fight, or how to handle women, or other 'man' things every boy should learn, (he was an AFC also. Plus he was young, only 13 years older than me.) and I think the absence of 'father' stuff like that is the root of many of my problems as well.

My mindset is, I did ok without my real dad around. He was a prick anyway. Im glad Im not more like him. Unfortunately for me, I inherited a really arrogant and bitter attitude from him. I also inherited a lot of good things from him as well, though, and thats what I focus on. I dont even know if I'd go to his funeral if he died. He simply doesnt exist in my life. If Im successful or not, only depends on ME. I dont owe him anything, and he owes me nothing either. Fvck him.

Just be YOU, and be the best YOU that you can. Our dad's may suck, but they DID give us life, so I guess we owe them that much. Do everything for you, and dont worry if your dad wins or loses, or lives or dies. YOU matter. Be successful for YOU.

If you ever talk to your dad again, tell him that he should never have expected your mom to be entirely faithful while he was in prison for seven years. Married, or not, expecting someone to go seven years without sex because their significant other fvcked up, is ridiculous. I sure as hell wouldnt. I hope you dont put any blame on your mother for that. Dont worry about your dad, and NEVER blame yourself that he refuses to act like your dad.

Also, understand that prison can permanently fvck people up. I dont know why he went away, and I have no idea what Russian prisons are like, but I do know that people often come out of prison totally fvcked up, and never able to function as a normal human being ever again. Try to keep that in mind.
 

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No one picks their parents. My dad's dad left when he was 12; my girlfriend's dad left when she was 8. Both fathers had the class to tell their kids that it was the kids' fault that they left the family, swell guys that they are.

Almost every cage fighter I have ever met has daddy issues. I don't ever ask about any of my training partner's family life, because it's almost always the same - "daddy ran off, and I am pissed." That's really why they fight. That anger also often spills over into any sort of mentor relationship that can resemble that of father and son, like trainer, teacher, or boss.
 

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My dad (and all my uncles) completly forgot about me, stoped giving a damn about how I grew and focused on my brother instead, who is 18 right now. On top of that, during all my teen years, I learned stuff that I shouldn't have instead of social skills I could have learned a lot easier. What happened? Three years ago, I'd probably would have fallen on the autistic spectrum. Now? I don't pull any chicks, but I actually have a little notion on social skills.
My brother? He's three years younger than I am and has been with over 40+ chicks, and I'm still a virgin.

Our parents had no idea about upbringing. We're a wasted generation of men. For a second time, we'll have a huge genetic bottleneck that is not not a product of a cataclysm, but only because 80% of the women are gonna have kids with 10% of the men.
 

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My dad, and 99% of his side of the family are bad people, criminals even. He got really ahead in life in comparison to everyone else in his family. But he finally cave in to the same story in his family. He left. We had had a very good upbringing. But then he left, and my mother, with no working califications, had to support us.

I don't know if he is alive or not.

Seems funny, I don't know if there is a scientific base or not, but sometimes I surprise myself (in a negative way) on how I am doing the exact same things he did. Maybe I "inherited" some negative things, and also positive things.

Bottom line is, yes, he is your father. But, in my mind, I owe him nothing. I don't want to kill him, I don't wish him death. I wish he lives a happy life (if he is still alive). I do not use his last name. I have nothing from him. If I owe someone something it's my mother, not him.
It's better to know what you don't want to become. I have been becoming the man I want to be. You have done so yourself, continue in that path. He, by what I see, is exactly what you don't want to be. So, don't be. Be loving, charismatic, healthy, funny and unresentful man. Everyone has issues, everyone, in one way or another. You aren't defined by what has happened to you, you are defined as a man as what you have done with what has happened to you, and what you will continue to do. And how, given the opportunity, you will treat others in the same scenario.
 
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