Cutoff line

MackJr

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I noticed in the process of losing 35-38 lbs, after a certain point women started to notice me--ie, I'd see them checking me out. it was a little weird at first because I'd been overweight for so long I didn't know that skinny guys got this treatment.

Where do you think the cutoff line is? I started at about 31% BF and when I hit 20-23% or so, it seemed like all of the sudden I was in the "attractive zone".

Anyone else notice this? any ideas on what the cutoff line is? It's higher than the "ideal" BF of 15%, thankfully, but it wasn't like one day they all ran to my door.
 

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A lot of women would probably still check out a guy with a bf percentage of 25% if he got broad shoulders, was muscular, had a tan and a very good-looking face.
None of them would check out a guy with a ugly face, whos skinny as hell just for the fact that he got a low b/f percentage.
So u cant really say theres a certain cutoff line or something. I know what you're talking about though. A couple of years ago I was rather small and well not skinny but thin or something. I never really caught girls checking me out. Then when I got taller and kinda muscular, improved my clothes/ hair style they started checking me out like crazy.

I bet you tend to think that your body fat percentage is the most important factor when it comes to your looks, but it isn't really.
(though it is important of course) I think its cool that you're working hard on yourself, but I suggest that after attaining your ideal bf percentage (and it sounds like you're real close) you start bulking (get enough info on it and do a cutting phase once a year or so in order to keep your low bf percentage). I know it must be a great feeling for you to be thin if u used to be overweighted and probably admired thin people most of your life. I bet this boosted your ego a lot. Now guess what, if u start getting some muscles also your ego will really get boosted again (tho this takes longer)...Try getting stylish clothes and a stylish hair cut also....Just trying to make you realize that your bf percentage isnt everything (I mean u prolly know that, but I think u overestimate it a little). Keep the good work up though!
 
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Yeah I also get girls checking me out like crazy (glad to see I'm not the only one) and I'm also at 20-23% body fat (though at 240lb I'm not exactly skinny). I was quite happy with the attention I was gettinng at 27% though (picked up my current girl at 27%). Can't imagine things getting better if I drop to 10% but I will anyway just for my own sake. With the right clothes on though I don't think there is that much difference between 20% and 10% (if your well built). As long as I don't tuck my shirt in (which fortunately is the style here in Aus) you can't see my gut and I doubt I will look any better at 10% when clothed (though will look heaps better unclothed obviously when I get rid of my love handles). At any rate it seems to me that girls as just as much visual creatures as we are (I don't think I lust after them more than they lust after me).
 

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Yea..I think it'd be pretty hard to tell the difference...I didnt get any more or less attention whether I was at around 10% or 20% of bf, but after finishing my bulking cycle Ill definetly cut down to around 10 for the summer ;-)
 

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The highest bf I've ever been was probably about 20%, and I personally found I got a lot more attention once I got to below 15% and was able to wear form fitted clothes.

When I say form fitted, I mean muscle shirts and shirts which completely conform to your upper body, even torso(ala Neo in the Matrix).

You can only wear clothes this fitted(and look good) if you get rid of the gut(~12-15%bf)...
 
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You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I've always kept track of this, but in weight. I don't have a reliable method of measuring bf.

>270 : Probably repulsive cutoff. I've never been there. Never gonna be there!

>230 : "invisible"/average looking face in the crowd. Where I'm at now.

225: maximum attractive weight, some number closes.

215: "hottie" cuttoff (>50% of good looking women smile or look at me. 70% number close rate.

210: >95% number close rate.

<210: (Haven't been there in years, but probably Godlike!)

Thanks. I needed that motivation.
 
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