Could Somebody Explain NLP??????

[Marlimus]

something is bugging me.

everywhere I go I keep hearing about NLP, whispered in reverential tones like if its a magic wand or something.

Everywhere I go I hear references to this 'NLP' and my curiousity is killing me. I'm trying to be the best Don Juan I could possibly be, and I'm starting to feel like I'm missing out by not knowing about NLP, like its a Weapon of Mass Seduction that everybody else has in their arsenal, but not me.
Could somebody break it down to me? i feel like its the one thing I haven't mastered, and I don't even know what it is.

I would appreciate some guidance on this. Also, could you give me some sample NLP lines I can use, you know, like how you guys sometimes give examples of ****y&Funny?

Marlimus

 

[Phat]

Try searching it. www.google.com

Or download an NLP E book. On one of those p2p programs.

 

[gixxer]

I'm reading NLP for Dummies right now. It's great so far.....

gixx

 

[arutha]

I think to start with he means what does it stand for...

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Neuro Linguistic Programming. Speed Seduction patterns are based on this principle. The motivational speaker Tony Robbins uses NLP to inspire his audience to achieve more.

If you must learn it, stay away from Internet based, crash courses on the subject; you'll only get a half @ssed overview of the subject. Get a good book by a noted psychologist or someone certified in teaching the concept of NLP.

Personally, I feel that NLP is most effective for a DJ when used on yourself.

 

[Spartan]

Neuro Linguistic Programming. Speed Seduction patterns are based on this principle. The motivational speaker Tony Robbins uses NLP to inspire his audience to achieve more.

If you must learn it, stay away from Internet based, crash courses on the subject; you'll only get a half @ssed overview of the subject. Get a good book by a noted psychologist or someone certified in teaching the concept of NLP.

Personally, I feel that NLP is most effective for a DJ when used on yourself.

This is very sound advice. The basics behind NLP is that you treat the brain as you would do a computer, that we as individuals have good and bad programs.

From a DJ perspective an AFC suffers from a bit of bad programming, over analyzes, gets over emotional, goes sappy and chases a girl, all the things your mother told you to do.

The good programming is all about changing your perspective and breaking unhelpful habits. It is about empowering yourself, detaching yourself from results, to become braver, to see the positive side of things, to have the right perspective in life, using keywords, etc and so much more.

As Francisco says, for an aspiring DJ it is best used on yourself. It actually compliments the core DJ principles very well.

 

[Fender]

NLP is basically a set of tools for the brain.

Visualising and Self-talk are the only things i find useful in NLP for a DJ.

All the other crap is too complicated and really fogs up your game. But hey, thats just me.

-peace-

 

[Jariel]

I've been practising NLP for years and it is an amazing addition to my life. It helps you understand the functions of your mind and other people's ways of thinking. It also helps you to influence people, adapt to different circles and build rapport.

However, I would highly recommend steering clear of NLP used for seduction purposes (i.e. speed seduction) as it is less NLP and more about subliminal manipulation and it does not work! It is all theory and way too obvious in practice. And if any woman catches you trying this stuff she will see you as a manipulative snake and you will lose her trust completely.

The scary thing is that a lot of material advertises itself under the NLP banner, while it really is not NLP at all - it's just manipulation.

I agree with Fransisco about using it on yourself only and what Spartan said about breaking old (negative) programming. When used this way you will see the benefits.

 

[Maximus_Decimus]

1) NLP is Neuro Linguistic Programming. It's a method for reaching your unconsicous mind (or your target's unconcsious mind).

2) It can be used to aid your inner game when used upon yourself.

3) Using NLP as an advanced method to seduce women is effective when you have the basics covered. That is, you should have the proper inner game already, you are not desperate or clingy, etc.

4) The seduction form of NLP, or Speed Seduction (SS), can be an extremely effective tool to seduce women if you have the basics down. One of the core principles to understanding how women behave is their feelings/emotions. SS helps you to shift their emotional states by tapping into their unconscious mind.

5) You're better off mastering the basics before looking into methods like SS to seduce women. You can use all the SS in the world but if you don't have the right "inner game," you can still repel the ladies.

Maximus_Decimus

 

[HuuBinh]

When I first started learning seduction, I have used and found success using NLP in the rapport phase. I grasped a lot of Ross and Bart’s materials on speed seduction. Thus, they helped me a lot in making my verbal game more persuasive, suggestive, and emotionally connecting.

If you are going to learn NLP, don’t memorize any patterns. However, learn the critical components that make up an effective pattern like the weasel phrases, the embedded commands etc…and then create your own so that you can be more synchronized with who you are and how you feel.

You will often be INCONGRUENT using memorized or premeditated patterns because each approach/situation is different.

NLP shares some common ground with GWM in that if you want to communicate and project a certain state (sexual state for instance) to the girl, then you have to be in that state FIRST.

Most of us use NLP to some extent but don’t realize it.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Maximus_Decimus
4) The seduction form of NLP, or Speed Seduction (SS), can be an extremely effective tool to seduce women if you have the basics down. One of the core principles to understanding how women behave is their feelings/emotions. SS helps you to shift their emotional states by tapping into their unconscious mind.

I seriously question this, at least when you are getting to know the woman. SS patterns sound a bit cheesy and manipulative when used between people who hardly know one another.

I will admit that I tend to use a more subdued form of NLP by using imagery and future projection with women who have a high IL and have known me for a while. It makes them feel special that you are including them into your life in some way.

 

[Maximus_Decimus]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
I seriously question this, at least when you are getting to know the woman. SS patterns sound a bit cheesy and manipulative when used between people who hardly know one another.

I will admit that I tend to use a more subdued form of NLP by using imagery and future projection with women who have a high IL and have known me for a while. It makes them feel special that you are including them into your life in some way.

I agree that if you insert too many weasel phrases and embedded commands, it starts to sound cheesy. It is up to the user of SS or NLP to use as much as he believes is effective. As any astute DJ, you should always screen and use what you think is useful:

Absorb what is useful, Discard what is not, Add what is uniquely your own - Bruce Lee

Maximus_Decimus

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

NLP is the study of how people process information as well as the study of the signals we emit subconciously. It helps a person tap into a persons unconcious behaviors to manipulate or read them.

Yes, it can be used to help you with women, but it can also be used for so much more ilke curing phobias.

 

[dentalfloss]

nlp is a fancy bull**** psych word for positive thinking, go watch any type of motivational speaker, doesnt matter if its for workplace productivity or seduction, its almost all the same ****...but it works to get people that are feeling down back on their feet (ie AFCs that come here)

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

It has nothing to do with positive thinking. It's about analyzing people's subconcious signals like fidgeting, eye movement, etc. to be able to read a person and tap into their through process in order to manipulate it.

 

[Ricky]

I agree about it helping the most for inner game.

I think NLP for seduction would be a bit better if the guy peddling it wasn't so cheesy Ross. That being said I think he's extremely intelligent, it's just people like me who have listed to him can't get his gay voice out of our head when we want to use the material.

Thats why I've never used SS to seduce!

 

[Jariel]

The thing about NLP demonstrations (from Ross Jeffries to Derren Brown) is that they're in a control environment with willing volunteers. Whereas, outside of that environment, people are on guard and it just isn't plausible to use any of these "tricks".

What you can do very effectively, however, is learn how NLP can be used to change people's moods and emotional states, and use that knowledge when choosing topics of conversation.

I.e. Talking about work could put a person in a stressed out state, whereas talking about holidays or future ambitions could lift their mood.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

My first introduction to NLP was through David Deangelo. In his only good course, Double Your Dating the Advanced Course, he spills the beans on the books he used to formulate his own game.


Figuring the best way to create "my game" was to go the source and build from there, I purchased most of the books he recommended. Bandler and Grinder are credited as the fathers of NLP with the original master of it being Milton Erickson.


NLP is basically an instruction manual for the brain. It gives you another set of eyes to view the world, albeit more objectively. It has been adapted for all sorts of uses, such as sports, sales/business, therapy and psychology, and seduction.


Once you understand how things work, you can begin using them to your advantage.


For instance, when a girl hears a song she really likes the first time with you, it becomes "your" song. Each time you play it, she'll remember you, that moment, and be happy.


Conversely, many women get scared or encounter fear if you reproduce a behavior, action, or word that an X may have used that hurt her in the past.


On both occasions I have witnessed this with my own eyes. Regarding music, each time I've put on a Dave Matthews Song, all disagreements have ended and she's been pretty happy. You'd laugh if it wasn't true, and probably will laugh anyways, but highly sensitive girls respond immediately to such things, since they are so highly influenced by external events.


Regarding the fights we've had that made her recall past fearful experiences, it's only happened when she expected certain behaviors as a result of things I did, whether or not I was her X or trying to hurt her didn't matter, it followed a pattern like deja vu, and she acted as expected.


Knowing all this, I've sat with a girl and said:


"I'm me, I'm not your X, whether that sinks in or not. Would it be fair if I blanketed all your actions with those of girls I dated before you? If I saw you as just another girl? No. You wouldn't like that very much. I'm a guy, sure, but you have to realize I'm unique in every way, so don't peg my actions with expectations."


I'd say its valuable regardless of your intentions because you learn even about your habits and mannerisms. You understand how humans are such creatures of habits, how we see a symbol and ALWAYS see it one way, when that's not true. How one fearful act in the past can totally ruin your future.


Some books:


Introduction to NLP
Awaken the Giant Within
Unlimited Power
Structure of Magic I and II
Mind-Lines: Lines for Changing Minds (Great Book)

Those are the biggies.

To me, THIS is the stuff people should be taught in high school and college. THIS is the english language IN USE. Not literary novels, great as they maybe, which few if any read, and even littler impact on the readers than the ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE properly.


It's not a magical science, BUT when you've been introduced to a new way of thinking, your world does change. Using Mind-Lines I've been unable to unwrap, unravel, and dismantle many arguments people impose with such ferosity. Moreover, you become a good conversationalist by using the tools and lines. It opens up your own creative pathways to enable you see, hear, smell what they see, hear, smell.

A-Unit

 

[Freddy1]

In my opinion after doing 3 years of doing R.Jeffries NLP its a TOTAL WASTE of time. Its overly complex and takes hours and hour and hours just to learn it. If you were already a full time therapist/hypnotist/Ericksonian working 8 hours a day with clients then you have the possibilty to pull it off but for the average person I wouldnt waste your money on it.
NLP is very mechanical. It is very difficult for you to be NATURAL with it.


Thats why I switch to De Angelo's stuff. Its 200X's simpler, easier to comprehend and memorize and it does work. Its alot more natural feeling than with NLP.

You know I wasted years (and I mean years) on seduction books and information and only a few stuff is worthy. Angelo's stuff is alot better than most of the nonsense thats out there. I wasted alot of money and quite abit of my youth on this stuff. If only I knew better and could turn back the clock I would.
I just wanted to spare some of you guys the agony of searching for decent information