Cooch drops ten points overnight

[Wilko]

I originally tacked this onto the end of someone else's thread but it got obscured with the OP's story. So here it is again.

When a girl who is clearly into you decides to play waiting games with her cooch it tells you that she thinks her cooch is the most valuable thing about her. It says I don't think my looks, charm, brains and character are good enough to keep this guy around once I give up the cooch, and she's probably right!

How would a DJ get a man to stick around if he had to? DJ-101 would say go and work on your looks, charm, brains and character; become a person worthy of a man's interest and admiration. The typical female response isn't self-improvement, nope, the standard response is to ration out her cooch even more tightly. Such scarcity does create value, sure, but it's artificial, she's limiting the supply of a commodity, she's not trying to provide a better product.

When's the last time you heard of a girl embarking on a program of self-improvement after complaining about being "used for sex" by a string of guys? Just doesn't happen.

Think about that when you're browsing online profiles and you see girls ranting, "I'M NOT HERE FOR SEX", "NO ONE NIGHT STANDS", "NO CASUAL STUFF", "NOTHING SLEAZY". She's telling you, screaming at you! Nothing of value here, just cooch, move along, nothing to see. Other guys have already trod that path before you and discovered there's nothing worth trying to keep for themselves. The ironic thing is that those particular girls then proudly announce that fact to the world. Rinse and repeat.

That's the takeaway point, the girls who scream loudest and longest about being used for sex have the least to offer, cooch notwithstanding. Ditto for the girls who want to make you wait unnecessarily. Understand, this isn't a rant, I just think that this is what's really going on beneath the surface of those "tactics".

 

[squirrels]

Yeah, I'd say that's true.

Like I said before, I can appreciate a girl who's mastered the art of "hard to get", but those girls who have, they have a lot of value beyond the sexual and it comes through in time.

I wonder if it's the reverse with guys...that guys who are looking to f**k from date-one appear to have little value beyond it.

...which is really all I'm trying to do with most women. I don't find them usually having anything to say...commonly, all they do is the "cute routine", which just turns me on sexually. Then they wonder why I'm such a horndog.

Every time I've tried to actually TALK to a girl, like open up and talk to her, tell her some of the crazy stuff that goes on in my mind, she just kind of humors it. Other guys, we go back and forth about interesting topics, we bounce thoughts off of each other...it feels like most women, especially the good-looking ones, when you engage them, it's like you're talking AT them instead of TO them. I miss meeting girls who can hold a conversation.

I wonder if you can take this metaphor a couple of clicks further...women have pretty much financed their lifestyles against their "cooch". They receive tangible benefits today using the promise of future "cooch" tomorrow...when really the value of "cooch" is overestimated and trading more on hype than on real expected value.

I wonder if the "cooch debt" will ever come due and what happens when women start "defaulting".

For that matter...I wonder if there's any market for "cooch derivatives".

 

[zekko]

Think about that when you're browsing online profiles and you see girls ranting, "I'M NOT HERE FOR SEX", "NO ONE NIGHT STANDS", "NO CASUAL STUFF", "NOTHING SLEAZY". She's telling you, screaming at you! Nothing of value here, just cooch, move along, nothing to see

You make a good point.
On the other hand, if she says "I'm here for sex, just one night stands please, I only do casual and sleazy", what does that say about her value?

 

[squirrels]

You make a good point.
On the other hand, if she says "I'm here for sex, just one night stands please, I only do casual and sleazy", what does that say about her value?

It says she has a sense of humor.

Whether she says yes to it or no to it, the effect is the same...she's drawing attention to that aspect of her life.

Likely because the other aspects are lacking.

 

[Knight's Cross]

Wilko,
Insightful observation. I've often found that very attractive women/ that also have some things going for them, career, family, friendships are easy to bed. They enjoy their sexuality. The middle ground chicks are tougher. They don't have so much going for them and the cooch rationing begins. On the lower end of the extreme are women that don't have anything going for them. This crowd will do one of 2 things. Either they give it up right away in desparation, or they don't give it up at all and hold the,"I'm not that type of girl" resistance at all cost having been f*d and chucked too many times.
Personally I go for the top women, that have relationships/ life/ goals. They are easy to bed if you push the right buttons. For most of them enjoy a sexual relationship, and it's fun with little drama. The other crowds are all too full of drama/ rationing, and senseless games of now you get it, now you don't. The sex isn't worth the effort.
As it's been said here before, it's sex first, relationship later.

KC

 

[st_99]

So do you guys think most "game playing", whether its withholding sex, not answering calls, playing hard to get, etc. is really just a smoke screen to hide or make up for their perceived boring and lame view of themselves? It makes sense I guess. I'm sure some of that goes on.

 

[zekko]

So do you guys think most "game playing", whether its withholding sex, not answering calls, playing hard to get, etc. is really just a smoke screen to hide or make up for their perceived boring and lame view of themselves? It makes sense I guess. I'm sure some of that goes on.

LO frigging L, that's pretty much exactly what a lot of guys on here are doing (except for the part about withholding sex, of course) - playing games as a smoke screen to hide their low value.

 

[jophil28]

.. when you're browsing online profiles and you see girls ranting, "I'M NOT HERE FOR SEX", "NO ONE NIGHT STANDS", "NO CASUAL STUFF", "NOTHING SLEAZY". She's telling you, screaming at you! Nothing of value here, just cooch,

Yes, those women are usually the type who have deployed the coochbomb (or a promise of it ) their whole adult life and have understandably attracted all the poonhounds who "used me just for sex" .
They are too dumb to realize that they set it up to turn out that way.

Now, twenty or more years later they have little to show for it, and so they use online ads to attract a quality guy(s) by bleating about their born again modesty.

It must be tough to advertise yourself without the qualities and attributes you left to wither and fade all those years ago

 

[st_99]

LO frigging L, that's pretty much exactly what a lot of guys on here are doing (except for the part about withholding sex, of course) - playing games as a smoke screen to hide their low value.

I would agree with that also. Not everybody, but yeah, I agree.

 

[Tazman]

Honestly, what guy is going to care about what a woman has to offer if she isn't physically attractive? That's the hook, without it, you won't care (depending on your circumstances and self-worth). An attractive woman who can't cook, clean, conversate, etc. won't have any problems finding guys who think they're wonderful, which means they will have no incentive to work on any other aspect of their lives.

There's a very plausible explanation behind the reason less attractive women tend to be better at sex, cooking, care-giving, etc.

 

[Burroughs]

An attractive woman who can't cook, clean, conversate, etc. won't have any problems finding guys who think they're wonderful, which means they will have no incentive to work on any other aspect of their lives.

There's a very plausible explanation behind the reason less attractive women tend to be better at sex, cooking, care-giving, etc.

This can be true

But it is diminishing every year. When I take a walk in a shopping area, I am stunned by the number of in shape, fit men I see walking around with absolute porkers, forget double chins..this are triple chin chicks.

A lot of less attractive women think they are entitled to the same treatment as attractive women and the problem is...MEN ARE GIVING THEM THAT ATTENTION...you only need two bidders to start a bidding war Scott Boros said. And a lot of fugly chicks are playing the game expertly doling out rimjobs to land attractive, clueless dudes. Because a lot of dudes even 9-10s will sleep with a 5-6 girl for super easy, nasty sex. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/images/smilies//eek.gif

 

[Poonani Maker]

Yeah, I wanted to rep you for that post tacked on at the end but some b!tch called me about, well, nothing too important...

 

[Tazman]

A lot of less attractive women think they are entitled to the same treatment as attractive women and the problem is...MEN ARE GIVING THEM THAT ATTENTION...you only need two bidders to start a bidding war Scott Boros said.

That's why it really isn't overpriced, as long as guys are "bidding" as you say, it will remain this way.

Make no mistake, women aren't stupid, they use what they have to get what they want and it works for them. If it didn't, they wouldn't behave this way.

 

[Wilko]

I wonder if the "cooch debt" will ever come due and what happens when women start "defaulting".

For that matter...I wonder if there's any market for "cooch derivatives".

Didn't you hear? Big Jimbo made millions last week shorting Ukrainian 'taint futures.

LO frigging L, that's pretty much exactly what a lot of guys on here are doing (except for the part about withholding sex, of course) - playing games as a smoke screen to hide their low value.

I thought someone was bound to pick up on this, totally fair call. Same basic goal for sure, which is to compensate for personal deficiencies, very different ways of going about it. I think there's something to be said for doing successful behaviours even if you're not quite all there yet - fake it till you make it. And, whether you're witholding cooch, doing two strikes or no contact, those things all work, they get results.

What do you guys think about the idea that just practicing successful DJ behaviours and doing "approved" techniques makes you a better man? I think it's got some merit.

 

[Wilko]

Insightful observation. I've often found that very attractive women/ that also have some things going for them, career, family, friendships are easy to bed. They enjoy their sexuality.

How bout that, you know it's the other obvious conclusion but I overlooked it. That rings true, the most effortless and enjoyable lays I've had have been with women who really had their sh!t together, giving it up just wasn't a big deal for them, their value wasn't entirely invested in their cooch.

Fvcking irony hey! High value women need less work? Who knew?!

Yeah, I wanted to rep you for that post tacked on at the end but some b!tch called me about, well, nothing too important...

Much obliged. How are the options for the weekend shaping up poonhound?

 

[zekko]

What do you guys think about the idea that just practicing successful DJ behaviours and doing "approved" techniques makes you a better man? I think it's got some merit.

I definitely think it has merit.
I wouldn't ever want to rely solely on "fake it till you make it", but trying to do the right thing, always going into situations with the proper mindset, it's good stuff. Just making it a point to keep a positive attitude can do wonders.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

For men, self improvement is proactive. We are required to build ourselves up to be better, more attractive, more successful, in many different aspects so that we achieve things later in life. Self improvement is an ongoing project for most men.

For women, self improvement is reactionary. Gold's Gym is chock full of 35+ y.o. divorcees frantically trying to recondition themselves to get back down to competition weight. Most women, particularly in the west, lean towards solipsism. If they've rated even a 6 for the better part of their adolescence and young adulthood, they tend to think as WILCO is pointing out here - it's all about them, and often enough guys will reward her with attention based solely on the prospect that she'll become sexual with them. For every self-entitled 6 in the world, there's a 10 beta-herbs lined up to reinforce her sexual agency.

Despite all the popularized eating disorders and self-image imaginings women would have us believe, very few women have the introspection to be truly, constructively, self-critical. Fewer still find the impetus to act upon it, because at some point a guy will come along and pander to her in an effort to ƒuck her. Most women would rather attempt to change the rules of the game to fit their talents than to learn how to play the game better. It's only later in life, when they find themselves thrown out of previously comfortable positions and less able to compete in the sexual market that they'll self-improvement. However, for most, this improvement is purpose driven and as soon as she's able to establish her baseline comfort again with another man, she's back to her old self.

 

[Blusher]

LO frigging L, that's pretty much exactly what a lot of guys on here are doing (except for the part about withholding sex, of course) - playing games as a smoke screen to hide their low value.

And this is precisely what drives their value further down. Everything about it subcommunicates: "I'm not enough, I need to bend the truth and hide a little in hope that someone will find me attractive."

Counterproductive and detrimental to one's well-being.

 

[Boilermaker]

I originally tacked this onto the end of someone else's thread but it got obscured with the OP's story. So here it is again.

When a girl who is clearly into you decides to play waiting games with her cooch it tells you that she thinks her cooch is the most valuable thing about her. It says I don't think my looks, charm, brains and character are good enough to keep this guy around once I give up the cooch, and she's probably right!

How would a DJ get a man to stick around if he had to? DJ-101 would say go and work on your looks, charm, brains and character; become a person worthy of a man's interest and admiration. The typical female response isn't self-improvement, nope, the standard response is to ration out her cooch even more tightly. Such scarcity does create value, sure, but it's artificial, she's limiting the supply of a commodity, she's not trying to provide a better product.

When's the last time you heard of a girl embarking on a program of self-improvement after complaining about being "used for sex" by a string of guys? Just doesn't happen.

Think about that when you're browsing online profiles and you see girls ranting, "I'M NOT HERE FOR SEX", "NO ONE NIGHT STANDS", "NO CASUAL STUFF", "NOTHING SLEAZY". She's telling you, screaming at you! Nothing of value here, just cooch, move along, nothing to see. Other guys have already trod that path before you and discovered there's nothing worth trying to keep for themselves. The ironic thing is that those particular girls then proudly announce that fact to the world. Rinse and repeat.

That's the takeaway point, the girls who scream loudest and longest about being used for sex have the least to offer, cooch notwithstanding. Ditto for the girls who want to make you wait unnecessarily. Understand, this isn't a rant, I just think that this is what's really going on beneath the surface of those "tactics".

^^

Fantastic point, wow. Never thought of this. Simple, clean observation. Breath of fresh air, thanks

 

[Tazman]

LO frigging L, that's pretty much exactly what a lot of guys on here are doing (except for the part about withholding sex, of course) - playing games as a smoke screen to hide their low value.

And this is precisely what drives their value further down. Everything about it subcommunicates: "I'm not enough, I need to bend the truth and hide a little in hope that someone will find me attractive."

Counterproductive and detrimental to one's well-being.

I don't see how improving your "game" (which everyone uses in some fashion btw) to help your interactions with women, drives your value down. It flies in the face of every guy here who has seen exponential success.

Seems like the anti-game sentiment around here is ramping up.