Conversation issues holding me back - Strong Silent game tips?

[Heraclius]

Hey lads, I'm in need of a little guidance here.

Not to brag, but I'm a pretty attractive/successful dude. I'm in a prestigious profession (doctor/lawyer/i-banker), work out regularly, and was a varsity athlete in college.

I'm pretty confident in most respects in my life, but in situations with women I find attractive I'm a downright flagrant beta. I am incredibly weak in my game, repeatedly get friend zoned, and only lost my virginity this year at the age of 22.

I have no trouble getting first dates with attractive women from OLD sites or Tinder, but usually don't get second dates. I have a pretty frustrating speech impediment that hampers my interaction with women. I tend to tense up, get speech blocks where I can't get out certain words, and basically make a fool of myself which seems to disqualify myself in their eyes despite being a pretty decent catch in most other respects.

What I've found is that when I'm forced to take charge of the conversation on a date, I mess it up, like with more shy/subdued , or hard to get playin women. When I can play the strong silent type with more chatty broads, I can disguise my disfluent speech pretty well and let my physical appearance do the talking.

I've come to the conclusion that this is the only persona that's gonna work for me. However, I rarely go on dates with the chatty types who will take the lead in convo, and there is often long awkward silences unless I take the bullet and start awkwardly blabbing more; I thought Betches were good at talking way too much??

Does anyone have some tips on how to run strong/silent game? The less I open my mouth the greater my chances of getting into a girls' pants it seems !

I'm still needing work in the kino/physical escalation area too. Some pointers here would be helpful. I usually open a date with a quick hug, and then don't touch her again until the end where i ***** out when it comes to going for the kiss and get a second hug. I never hold hands, graze her arm or leg, guide her through a bar with a hand in the small of her back, high five ect. It always seems so forced and unnatural when I do it. How can I slip in these interactions smoothly?

I'm trying hard to change my mentality, not put ***** on a pedestal, and date multiple women to ease any sense of pressure to score with a particular girl, but first date nerves combined with my speech impediment and lack of physical escalation seems to be a tough hurdle for me to overcome.

Help a AFC brother out!

TL;DR:

-conversation is not my forte, how do I run strong silent game?
-tips for natural and smooth kino/physical escalation

 

[Tictac]

Get them to talk about their favorite thing - themselves.

 

[Vice]

Go out to a very popular night club and just TALK. Don't even focus on getting numbers or lays, just f*cking TALK to girls until you get over this sticking point.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Convo:
Focusing more on banter/creating attraction may be a better tactic for you as a lot of it is laid back one liners and teasing. This may sound odd; but trying to have a deep meaningful conversation may be your hurdle as you are thinking too hard and self-conscious about your speech problem. What are those topics doing for you to create tension/attraction right off the bat? Let her talk about herself for a minute (open ended how, why, how does it make you FEEL questions to calibrate her emotions) then break rapport and start the c&f. Throw her a couple curveballs and loaded questions to create some playful tension.

Kino:
Banter opens the door for kino. A lot of the time when playing the ****y/funny routine, a poke or a pinch to the outside thigh combined with a subtle neg is a good kino icebreaker and will lighten up the mood. When she reciprocates with a punch to the arm or similar you know you've set the frame up right. From there, a soft pat on the side of her @ss/thigh when asking her a question with good eye contact. A light push to her torso when you are disqualifying her.

It is important to note that you can slip a lot of keno under her radar naturally when disqualifying or negging her. A woman's guard will be down since you are pushing her away creating a mixed signal pellet for her hamster to chew on which is exactly where you want that little f*cker to be.

All of this advice would be from you standing up face to face at first and then turning your body a bit away from her when you've set the hook so she works to open you back up. And from there, the kino ice has been pulverized and you can start to escalate while working push/pull game. Don't be afraid to tell her "we're going to take a few shots" and grab her hand and drag her to the bar. Do not hesitate. Kino with confidence.

Make sure that you set your dates up in an atmosphere that will allow you to run the above without any hangups aka: somewhere FUN. Hard to run push/pull kino sitting across from her at the dinner table stuttering about politics. That sh!ts for the birds. Set yourself up for success. Make her remember what a FUN time you had. That is more important to her than any amount of money you drop on fancy bullsh!t and conversations of heavy substance. Keep your mystery. Keep It light and playful.

 

[Don-Kong]

All this talk aint helping.

You said frustrating speech impediment. Are you angry at yourself? Speech impediments revolve around anxiety AND anger. I've helped loads of people with this.

You are disguising your voice. Are you ashamed of your voice?

OK DK how does that sh1tty observation help? Well, it's one most people aren't aware of. Almost as if it wasn't there and has nothing to do with 'the problem'.

You said you are pretty confident in other situations, i wonder what's different?

Dr Kong advises this: ACCEPTANCE. Accept your beautiful self. Imagine fvcking it up with women. Yes, thats right. Laugh at yourself aswell. If you 'act' like someone else or try to hide who you are, then subtly you are rejecting your real self, then resentment breeds and you get angry for not being better etc

Acceptance is your key. Beating yourself is making it worse, judging yourself. Anger causes major blockages around the throat area. Yo hear me!!!! lol