Contradiction

[Fruitbat]

One hand: Other hand

Take what you want - Be aloof
Have balls - Don't chase
Go for it. - be unavailable
Sexually escalate - Don't let her know you are into her
Confident persistence - Be the prize

Are we saying that in the initial male - female attraction stage, you go with the left hand side.

Once she is a little hooked, you go to the right hand side.

I am gaming a chick where I am being very sexually suggestive, pushing for more etc and she is playing a little hard to get, but seems still very engaged in the game i.e. she contacts me and initiates meetings sometimes.

She is not the sort of girl who will go to bed easily though, trust me. I know some of you truly believe if I was a tattood prisoner she would be fvcking me already, but there are some girls out there like this!

I am thinking the way is to give direct sexual attention (no wussy lovey talk EVER) and then pull away and not be around for a bit?

Can anyone make sense of this? Do I have this right?

 

[TheException]

Are we saying that in the initial male - female attraction stage, you go with the left hand side.

Once she is a little hooked, you go to the right hand side

No. You actively use both. The art of seduction is often times contradictory. The wisdom is knowing why a woman is doing a certain action(pulling away because youve been beta) and knowing the correct response no matter how counterintuitive it may seem(you yourself pull away and give her space rather than pursue her more).

 

[Robert28]

You have to get your mind right about her "not being the type to go to bed easily". Trust me, I've had this thought about MANY girls before reality hit me in the face and later learned she was a wh0re back in her day or she took it up the @$$ at a party after 5 mins of talking to a guy. Maybe she's not giving it up to YOU easily, but don't believe that crap that she plays hard to get with every guy she's met. I made that mistake many times, still make it sometimes to this day.

 

[Fruitbat]

You have to get your mind right about her "not being the type to go to bed easily". Trust me, I've had this thought about MANY girls before reality hit me in the face and later learned she was a wh0re back in her day or she took it up the @$$ at a party after 5 mins of talking to a guy. Maybe she's not giving it up to YOU easily, but don't believe that crap that she plays hard to get with every guy she's met. I made that mistake many times, still make it sometimes to this day.

You're wrong dude, you're right for about 80% of chicks, but just as some dude are shy and don't approach, some girls are shy and are hesitant.

Also, some girls WERE like this and got hurt a few times, and now have a might ASD.

I forgive women a little sluttyness when they are very young - I did some dumb stuff back then, but into the 20s there are plenty of girls who don't give it up that easy.

 

[Fruitbat]

Are we saying that in the initial male - female attraction stage, you go with the left hand side.

Once she is a little hooked, you go to the right hand side

No. You actively use both. The art of seduction is often times contradictory. The wisdom is knowing why a woman is doing a certain action(pulling away because youve been beta) and knowing the correct response no matter how counterintuitive it may seem(you yourself pull away and give her space rather than pursue her more).

In your opinion, could non needy pestering women for sexual escalation (done in a ****y and funny way) be beta? (bear in mind it's not begging, more "you know it's going to happen, and this is what I am going to do with you!"

 

[Bokanovsky]

One hand: Other hand

Take what you want - Be aloof
Have balls - Don't chase
Go for it. - be unavailable
Sexually escalate - Don't let her know you are into her
Confident persistence - Be the prize

Are we saying that in the initial male - female attraction stage, you go with the left hand side.

Once she is a little hooked, you go to the right hand side.

What it means is that you have to be flexible and situationally aware. Different tactics apply to different women and in different circumstances. Think of it as warfare. Sometimes, a daring charge will carry the day and scatter the enemy forces. At other times, it will lead to disaster, with your troops being mowed down with enemy machine gun fire. You need to analyze the battlefield, scout the enemy postions, and assess both yours and your opponents' strengths and weaknesses.

 

[TheException]

In your opinion, could non needy pestering women for sexual escalation (done in a ****y and funny way) be beta? (bear in mind it's not begging, more "you know it's going to happen, and this is what I am going to do with you!"

It could be. Generally though its not....its always better to be overly sexual than not sexual enough. For instance i use the word "handjob" liberally. Anytime a girl needs something...."Sure....that will cost ya a handjob". I push it pretty far too...right to the edge of awkwardness.

HB: Seriously lol...i really need that book.
Me: Seriously....it will cost ya 1 handjob.

"not being the type to go to bed easily".

Ehhh im still in the air with this one. Ive encountered "good girls" who ONS me and ive encountered girls where ive had to date them for a couple weeks/a month before they were comfortable to f close me. Thing is...i believe at some point in a womans life she will be open to banging you fast and on the other hand there are points where she wont. Could be a million reasons(just brokeup and still loves ex, got hurt in past, etc etc) but our job is to not even think about the "what if's". Who gives a sh1t why she wont bang you fast...the fact is SHE ISNT. So....we should act accordingly. I personally prefer to pull away rather than sexually persist. The reason is two fold.

1.)I dont want to keep hanging out with a chick....spend money on dates, makeout, mess around/feel up, than get blue balls because she wont even let me take her shirt off every time.

2.)Instill a little bit of dread in her. She needs to feel like she might lose you to another girl. Without that feeling she can take her sweet ole time and withhold sex for months. She needs to feel like your a real catch and would do anything to keep you.

 

[insomniac9]

Are we saying that in the initial male - female attraction stage, you go with the left hand side.

Once she is a little hooked, you go to the right hand side

No. You actively use both. The art of seduction is often times contradictory. The wisdom is knowing why a woman is doing a certain action(pulling away because youve been beta) and knowing the correct response no matter how counterintuitive it may seem(you yourself pull away and give her space rather than pursue her more).

i agree with what you're saying here about actively using them both methods as it will keep any chick on her toes because she won't be able to "figure you out".
we want to avoid that because if it happens she would lose interest.