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Right...I've done a search, but even the basic stuff is too fvcking advanced for me! I want it explained in AFC terms, if you will.

I'm not looking to bulk up or cut down, particulary, but a mixture of the two. I just want to feel better in my body.

I'm a healthy person with my eating habits, I eat plenty of fruit and drink lots of water (I've even cut down to low calorie beer, and I'm cutting out the McDonalds or KFC that I have once a week or so). I also walk pretty much everywhere so I do get lots of moderate exercise. So I've never seen a need to lift before.

I'm 5'9", 160 lbs, 20 years old. I'd like to bulk up slightly on my upper body, especially my arms, and lose a slight beer belly that I have.

I'd also rather not go to the gym, but get weights and use them at home - this is for money reasons mostly, but also time and convenience. Anyone care to recommend some?

Ok, so if anyone want to explain in very simple terms the best way to go about this it'd be much appreciated!
 

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Taken from my advice to Zoso a while back, although some on this board disagree with it:

My suggestion is this:

Chest/Triceps/Shoulders
Incline barbell or dumbbell bench press
Incline flyes or weighted chest dips
Skullcrushers or close grip bench press
DB shoulder press or military press

Back/Biceps
Deadlift
Chin-ups or lat pulldown
Barbell row or db row or t-bar row
Barbell curl or db curl or preacher curl

Legs/Abs
Squats or leg press
Stiffed legged deadlifts or hamstring curls
Seated or standing calf raise
hanging leg raises or weighted crunches

I've offered alternatives in every exercise (except the deadlift, which I consider THE best exercise, perhaps more so than squats because I prefer deadlifts, lol) so that when you stagnate on one exercise you can swap it. Alternatively you could alternate exercises once a week although I personally wait until I've stopped making progress before switching. Log your lifts and improve by either weight or reps (2+) each week. When you can't improve on your lifts for three workouts in a row, it's time to change exercises (I say this because you might've had a bad day etc). Lift in good form always (leave your ego at the door, sacrifice weight for form and muscles will grow faster), do an explosive positive and slow, controlled negative. Leave a full day's rest between workout days - this scheme allows also for a weekend off if you like. I.e. Mon - Wed - Fri - Mon OR you could just train every other day, up to you.

That's training, the easy part. Now comes the diet. The hard part.

Mate, you won't grow the way you're eating (your diet seems to be like a high-carb cutting diet rather than a bulker). The traditional 'boatload the carbs for weight gain' thinking is flawed. Protein builds muscles, not carbs. People who eat a load of carbs tend to be fat. People who eat a load of protein tend to be muscular. Look around and see. You could be on the best workout program in the world, have the best supplements in the world, have the best drugs in the world, if you're getting in the protein requirements of a bed-ridden gerbil you'll get nowhere fast.

Protein - the most important macro. Aim for 2g of protein per lb bodyweight that you WANT to be. You think eating twice your current bodyweight will get you to a new level of size? You're wrong. Your preferred protein sources should be red meat since it's the highest form of animal protein available - other meats are good but beef is the best. Ground beef is cheap and full of protein, cook it up and run it under the tap to get off as much fat as possible. Whole eggs too, don't be afraid of egg yolks, they're good for you and have just as much protein as the white. Don't forget stuff like peanut butter too - a good source of protein and fat. The ever dependable milk as well. Add a pint of milk to every meal and that's another 20g of protein in. Protein powder is an option BUT NOT ESSENTIAL. When you're training to be 250lbs and need 500g of protein every day then maybe so but right now you're fine with real food. To recap: lean meats, eggs, milk, nuts, lentils, dairy produce, stuff like tempeh and tofu if you like it, and fish (including tuna).

Carbs and fats - don't bother counting these. Aim for as many quality carbs (oats, wholegrain bread, brown rice, wholewheat pasta, sweet potatoes etc) as you need to satiate your hunger, too many and you could be putting on the wrong sort of weight. Carbs are your fuel, not your building blocks. Fats are oft neglected, I'd recommend around 50g at least of good quality fat every day: flax oil, oily fish (mackerel, herring, trout, salmon, sardines), nuts, olive oil, olives, seeds etc. Put oil on your salads and stuff (eat LOTS of fruit and veg for general healthiness) or in your milk or orange juice, a tablespoon of olive oil in some Tropicana is lovely and packs a good 20-25g of fat. You NEED fat, don't think you can survive on protein and carbs alone. Nuts and nut butters (peanut butter, almond butter etc - the natural kind, not the commercial) are a good source of protein AND fat, and pack calories, which is a good thing.

To recap: 2g of protein per lb bodyweight that you WANT to be - I'd say aim for 160lbs right now, so get in a good 320g of protein every day. Eat carbs to fuel your workouts and your hunger, get in some good fats, lots of fruit and veg, and drink plenty of water. Your meal timing is good. Don't be afraid to throw in some junk food now and again. You'll be working hard so treats are in order!! Junk has a bad rep and rightfully so, but it's got key nutrients like any other food. At McD's pound a couple of double cheeseburgers and milk (no fries) and go for a nice meat feast pizza/meat heavy sub as you described. In fact in one of my most successful muscle-building phases I had a shop-bought pizza every other day, didn't make me fat (I did cardio and other stuff to keep me lean, but you don't need to worry about that!) and kept me quite mentally happy!

Of course, there'll be times when you're not hungry. You MUST eat. Eat the protein and leave the rest of your food uneaten in the worst case scenario. Forcefeeding happens to us all. Pick foods you like to eat to help with this, picture yourself the musclebound hunk you want to be, blend your food and drink it, ANYTHING - but the bodybuilder is made outside the gym, not in it. The time at the dinner plate is forty-two times a week. The time at the gym is three or four times a week. Diet is key!

I'll be checking in on you, good luck with your goals and please don't hesitate to ask if you have a problem. So many young guys start out with all the best motivation and incentive in the world, but don't know where to start; I'm happy to help people out, I was helped by experienced lifters and I owe much of my muscle to them.

Cheers,
Alex ...
 

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Home Gym Advice

This is where I have worked out for nearly a year and I'm happy with it.

I didnt like going to the gym (gym instructors who don't know anything annoying you every five minutes and some idiots who would get on your nerves would always be hanging around there - not to mention the 30 minutes walk from my house...!)

Anyhow, here ya go:

What do you need?

BENCH with Incline/Decline

Absolutely critical for a home gym - I live in Ireland so theyre more expensive here than the US but you'd pick up one for maybe $80 - make sure it's sturdy and can handle heavy duty weight (you're gonna be big someday and benching a lot!)


OLYMPIC BARBELL SET

Possibly the most important workout equipment in your gym - the exercises you can perform with this baby are endless - Benching, deadlifts, squatting, barbell curls, barbell rows, shrugs, military press - basically most/all of the compound exercises.

I just got one of these (140kg with 20kg 7 foot bar - cost me 220 euro - think they're about $120 in the US) - make sure you get enough weights with it as you're always gonna be packing on the lbs as you get stronger/bigger.

Alternatively you could start off with a cheap 50/70kg set for about $50 and then move onto the heavier sets later.


DUMBELLS

I have some cheap ones that you can switch the weights on. You can pick these up in lots of places but make sure theyre a challenging weight and adjustable - those girly 5lb/10lb ones wont do anything for you - aim for 20kg on each dumbell alt least.

These can help you overcome plateaus as you can use them instead of barbells for most exercises - also great for concentration curls, hammer curls etc... for building up the biceps.

Dumbells will be very reasonably priced - maybe even think of buying a dumbell rack to store them safely and efficently?


CHIN UP BAR

Over here these are very cheap and fit between a door frame to acommodate chin ups, pull ups etc... Maybe $15 for the bar and settings.


POWERRACK

I have the Powertec Power Rack system which has dip bars, chin up bars, lat bar pulldown, rowing machine etc.

This is an expensive but extremely helpful device.

Its a massive four poled set up which basically forms a frame around your bench which supports you if you fail in any of the heavy exercises - holding up the weights and saving you from serious injury/death(!).

Its extremely useful on squats, benching, dips, chin ups and many more exercises - if you have the cash ($500) consider getting one - although there are cheaper alternatives - smith machine etc...


TRICEP & EZ CURL BARS

Costing about $20 for the set - you dont get weights with these bars though.

These help in exercises such as EZ curls, tricep extensions, two handed hammer curls and so on. They arent 100% necessary but they can be quite useful.

Hope ive helped.

Any other questions? Ask away...
 

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Thanks mate - EXACTLY what I was looking for!

I'm from the UK so Ireland isn't too far away. Can you remember where you got your gym equipment? Net addresses would help, I don't mind paying a bit more to get it from Ireland if I know its tried and tested to be good.

I'm going to start with the chin bar and dumbells first I think then build the gym up over a few months or so. I don't want to overwork myself at first.

Thanks for the response!
 

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I think as far as money/conveniance is concerned, joining a quality gym cant be beat.

You have everything you could possibly want at your disposal.
 

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Warboss Alex,

Great post, but just as with everytime I read about lifting and diet, the diet seems overwhelming. I mean, so many different things listed that it seems not possible to fit all that into 7 days, especially when I'm often not eating lunch at home, don't have time for breakfast, and eat dinner with my family.

I'm 5'9 150, 20yrs old, I'm lean and have decent muscle but want more, obviously. Well, I will try to cook good lunches in advance and take them with me to eat when I am on campus. I eat lots of fruits and drink lots of water, my mom makes dinner everyday which includes salad (w/ her dressing, olive oil/vinegar/lemon based, not bottled crap), and rice (persian food, almost always have rice, and a meat (chicken, beef, lamb, or fish). I feel this is adequate and I just need to add 1 or 2 more quality meals a day. What do you all think?
 

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Originally posted by Julian
I think as far as money/conveniance is concerned, joining a quality gym cant be beat.

You have everything you could possibly want at your disposal.
True, true. But, I'd rather do it at home. I feel more relaxed at home.

Alex's post was too detailed and not what I was looking for actually since I'm not looking to bulk up, just consolidate my upper body while losing my (sort of, its not that bad yet) spare tyre.
 

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Originally posted by snintel
Warboss Alex,

Great post, but just as with everytime I read about lifting and diet, the diet seems overwhelming. I mean, so many different things listed that it seems not possible to fit all that into 7 days, especially when I'm often not eating lunch at home, don't have time for breakfast, and eat dinner with my family.

I'm 5'9 150, 20yrs old, I'm lean and have decent muscle but want more, obviously. Well, I will try to cook good lunches in advance and take them with me to eat when I am on campus. I eat lots of fruits and drink lots of water, my mom makes dinner everyday which includes salad (w/ her dressing, olive oil/vinegar/lemon based, not bottled crap), and rice (persian food, almost always have rice, and a meat (chicken, beef, lamb, or fish). I feel this is adequate and I just need to add 1 or 2 more quality meals a day. What do you all think?
Liquid meals are your friend in this case.. protein powder and add fats or carbs as appropriate.
 

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Originally posted by aftershock
True, true. But, I'd rather do it at home. I feel more relaxed at home.

Alex's post was too detailed and not what I was looking for actually since I'm not looking to bulk up, just consolidate my upper body while losing my (sort of, its not that bad yet) spare tyre.
For the record, I'd recommend that sort of diet whatever you wanted to do (bulk/cut/maintain), but it's up to you.

Losing spare tyre is cardio work, good luck.
 

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I think you should go to a gym... firstly there's people around and it's not only a place to work out but also a place to socialise.

also for working out at home there won't be anyone to correct you if you don't do a workout properlly, this could result in either very slow improvement of muscles or getting injured

also good gyms have EVERYTHING and good gyms have kind gym instructors who show you how to use these things, so you've already made friends to big guys and because of that boosted ya self confidence

I sign monthly at my gym for about 40$ (well in ethiopia it's a lot cheaper than america anyways... and yeah they've got all the material) basically for what you'll buy you'll spend well over 200$ for good material (might even spend over 500$ if you want a treadmill and punch bag, bycicle etc) now by my calculation it will mean that if you don't keep using that material you bought for at least 6 months very often, that money would've gone to waste.

because there's people around you you will be more motivated to work out and personally I find your "I am more comfortable and it will be a more convenient way for working out and less time wasting at home" an excuse to not go out to the gym
 

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also good gyms have EVERYTHING and good gyms have kind gym instructors who show you how to use these things, so you've already made friends to big guys and because of that boosted ya self confidence
In my experience most gym instructors don't know squat - that is in MY experience I repeat, not generalising here.

The idea of going to a gym to socialise isn't me, either .. it's a place to chew on slag iron, not to chat!

And it can be cheaper (much cheaper) to train at home .. you buy your weights once, and that's it for a while. My own gym membership sets me back a good 60 dollars a month, not a lot but over a year that adds up to a LOT of protein I could've bought ..
 

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argos.co.uk has some cheap benches and 50 & 70kg weight sets man, sorry i thought ya were in the US!

Therell be loads of fitness sites in the uk selling equipment so have a look at google for them.
 

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Originally posted by Warboss Alex
In my experience most gym instructors don't know squat - that is in MY experience I repeat, not generalising here.

The idea of going to a gym to socialise isn't me, either .. it's a place to chew on slag iron, not to chat!

And it can be cheaper (much cheaper) to train at home .. you buy your weights once, and that's it for a while. My own gym membership sets me back a good 60 dollars a month, not a lot but over a year that adds up to a LOT of protein I could've bought ..
I have to agree with Alex on this one 100%. The gym is for working out. I don't like to be a d!ck but my concentration gets blown to hell if some boob is trying to make small talk with while i'm busting balls. enough swear words? :)
I am lucky enough to have a gym right next to my workplace. It doesn't have everything i want (needs more free weights and a power rack) but it's cheap. I had a membership at a California Fitness and i walked away from it after a year thinking i got robbed. The fitness assessment was a joke and i never did follow it up regularly. That and no recommendations for diet or anything.. grr I am getting mad thinking about ir right now.
 
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Originally posted by Nexxus
I think you should go to a gym... firstly there's people around and it's not only a place to work out but also a place to socialise...
Gym membership is £25ish a month, or even more than that, and has limited opening hours, and I'd have to pay £3 return on the bus to get there that comes once an hour - it just isn't worth it!

Anyways, I think I'm ordering some cheapish dumbells - I don't see the point in shelling out a load of cash straightaway. Then again, should I go for 50kg rather than 20?:

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/s...atalogId=3151&productId=132179&clickfrom=name

And a chin up bar:

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/s...atalogId=3151&productId=136228&clickfrom=name

Am I on the right tracks here?

Thanks for the help guys; much appreciated! I am the first to admit that my knowledge of working out is about as AFC as you can get...
 

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In my experience most gym instructors don't know squat
So true.

I was told to forget about PROTEIN and concentrate on CARBS for bulking up!!!
 
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