competition with younger guys

[The Former Priest]

Hi everybody,
I am 33 years old guy, handsome and fit. Currently I am attending a course where I found this HB, she is gorgeous . It seems that things are moving well. I can tell this from the eye contact, although I did not find a chance to talk to her yet, since she always comes late and leaves early, since her mum drives her home. The thing is that I am facing competitions from the other guys attending the same class. I feel that I am in a better position than them; because I have many strength points, such as being the best student academically, my body looks better than them, I dress better, have a better job position, car etc. However the girl is much young, I give her 18, and the guys are around her age. I played it with my rules, where I played the role of the big, rich, educated, handsome man, and they are just kids. It seems that I am doing well.

Any ideas on how to manage this competition with younger guys?!

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Hey bro,

I can tell you how to hook up with 18yo girls online, but not in the field.

I've met girls who hate older guys and girls who love us. The friends who hate older 'creepy' guys will get you c*ck-blocked each time. That's why using the anonymity of the internet makes it easier for these girls to meet much older guys without their friends finding out (c*ck-blocking)
Do a search for my posts using the search engine.

Type in ER!C L!VE and you'll see my FR's (field reports).

Best of luck!

Eric

 

[WestCoaster]

I used to try and duke it out with ERIC! but realized he is who he is, and if he wants to date/have sex with younger women, that's between him and the girl whom he is with.

As noted below I saw the movie "Wedding Crashers" last night and something hit me in the show: Why is the pick up artist blamed for the pick up? No one is putting a gun to these girls' heads and saying strip down and spead 'em. Yet guys always get blamed for this.

Hey, it's up to women to develop better bullsh-t detectors.

Reminds me of a friend of mine, advanced degree, very smart. She met a fighter pilot guy in Vegas and of course he bedded her rather quickly. She tells me, "That's unusual for me, I don't jump into bed like that, but we had a real connection, we might get married, etc."

Trying to surpress laughter I said, "Uh, you're not getting married to this guy, he's a player." She was furious at me! She claims he sent her poetry and so forth and it was real. Sure enough, the guy was playing several women across the country ... I told this gal no doubt he was. It's not up to the PUA (or me for that matter) to supply the B.S. detector, it's up to the woman.

So if Eric is B.S.ing these women (maybe he's not), it's up to the women to figure it out.

I find it amusing American women continue to blame men for their inability to not take off their clothes.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

I don't have a problem with you Westcoaster - we just have different types of women we like. I respect you, man.

I'm always truthful with the girls - keeps the bad karma away.

Eric

 

[WestCoaster]

To be honest, when I was younger I wish I dated younger women ... I dated some older women, it was stupid.

Like I said, I work at a university, and the women 18-24 are amazing -- and not just in the looks dept. -- but their attitudes are very positive. They love men, like to hang with them, laugh with them, sleep with them. I see them studying in our lobby every day and they really like men and appreciate them. They're da-n fun to be around.

I work at a commuter school so much of the population is older. Many of the older women who come in are trying to turn their lives around after bad marriages and/or boyfriends. Their attitude is a contrast to the young gals. They're somewhat bitter and trying to re-gain their positive attitudes. Some are awesome -- looks-wise and personality-wise -- many are not.

I want to lecture the 18-24 year olds and say, "Keep that attitude! Don't lose it!"

Sadly, they will fall for the philanderer/drunk and it's downhill from there.

So while I most likely won't be dating 18-24 soon (more like 30-40), people should date/sleep with whom they want. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head, we're all adults and people can make their own decisions.

Frankly, I applaud Eric! for gravitating toward women with positive attitudes. To me, it's WAY more about attitude than looks, because a smile on an average girl is always better than a scowl on an attractive one.

 

[GirlCrazy]

I also applaud Er!c for sticking to his guns, and not making apologies for who he chooses to date.

Let the self-appointed protectors of morality talk all the trash they want. To me, it's a matter of personal preference.

 

[SoCalMike]

i'm with eric

i don't consider 18YO girls to be naive little angels manipulated by older men. especially not hot ones. baloney. they know what they're doing. most of these girls, by the time they hit 18, have already been quite "experienced" and are in no way innocent little flowers. they are much further along sexually than the average guy in his early twenties.

for example, a buddy of mine worked at a tattoo shop, he's my age (31) and he's banged many an 18YO client WHO CAME ONTO HIM, not the other way around. please people, let's be realistic here.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

note to self: open tattoo shop.

 

[STR8UP]

I'm 34 and just got out of a 2 yr relationship with a very mature 23 yr old. Would I do it again? I won't say NEVER, but it really isn't worth the BS.

Having to put up with her 19 yr old friend who acts 15 from time to time was a pain in the ass enough, but the worst part was always thinking her dad was looking at me like a cradle robber. He was always nice enough to me, but I knew deep down he didn't like the idea of our age difference.

The thing that REALLY pissed me off was that she was able to play "miss young and innocent" when the sh!t hit the fan and I got rid of her. Of course, me being ten years older, it was all MY fault for hurting the poor little girl.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by ER!C L!VE
That's great. Good for you.

We're 30+ and we like younger girls. Deal with it, kid.

(and the kids wonder why they're not supposed to be posting in this section) :cheer:

I going to ask a question without the intent of being facetious; what do you guys see in women who are barely women? I'm not talking about a 35 year old with a woman who's 25, I'm talking about the ones who are barely out of college. I really would like to know what is their appeal to older guys.

 

[SoCalMike]

Originally posted by ER!C L!VE
note to self: open tattoo shop.

bro you wouldn't BELIEVE the hotties that came into this joint. holy sh*t! my jaw hit the floor every 10 minutes when i was hanging out in there.

and believe me when i say that this shop was no exception, i have gotten many tattoos over the years, at many shops, and almost every time there's a GROUP of hot girls who come in.

and i chose to be an engineer instead... damn. **kicks self**

oh and btw just banging/casual dating and NOT serious relationship is what i'm talking about here... i hope none of us are dumb enough to believe that a relationship can work with a guy in his 30's and an 18YO girl ...unless maybe you mail ordered her ;-)

 

[SoCalMike]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
I going to ask a question without the intent of being facetious; what do you guys see in women who are barely women? I'm not talking about a 35 year old with a woman who's 25, I'm talking about the ones who are barely out of college. I really would like to know what is their appeal to older guys.

young, tight, firm bodies... duh. ;-)

seriously though, have you not seen some of the hot 18-20YO's out there. it's enough to make you cry!

dude, the average girl starting out in porn these days is about 18-21. don't give me this "barely women" baloney. some of them are quite horny. jeesh what's up with not realizing this?

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Yep, I should make it clear that I'm not looking for a LTR with these girls. If one develops, then that's nifty. I'm just in it for the 1 night stands &/or 2 month relationships filled with sex, ups and downs and the inevitable fizzle at the end. Then, I'll repeat.

I'm on the phone talking with men and women all day. I'm really not interested in talking about anything meaningful after work. That's where the fun, energetic youngin's come in.

 

[The Former Priest]

My Case is a little bit different, I wasted my previous years in every thing but girls. I only realized this 3 years ago when I started doing my master in the UK. I had chances with many undergraduate girls, I bedded some but lost the chance with other cuz I had no enough experience in how to deal with girls. Indeed all my friend tend to be younger than me, I mean my boy friends. Indeed I feel that I have just started my life. I don’t believe in marriage.

 

[LittleElf]

Damn, some of you studs are so immature that 17 is probably a bit too old for you. American girls confuse the hell out of me, but most girls overseas want older guys. Might be partially because you see teen girls all the time at discos and bars. Plus, there is no greek crap or high school proms, sports, etc. People are smart enough to realize that an older guy will usually treat a younger girl with more respect (as compared to someone her same age).

The age stuff is so overplayed in America/UK/Canada/Australia. Seriously, emotional maturity is the key issue. There are some 40 year old men who can't handle some 17 year old girls. There are some 25 year old guys who are ready to get married and start a family, while some 35 year old men still want to play video games and skateboard. It is simply an individual thing.

So, quit judging what another male wants or desires. Lets all live in peace and harmony this holiday season. :flowers:

 

[amano]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
......I'm talking about the ones who are barely out of college. I really would like to know what is their appeal to older guys.

You are probably thinking of pursuit of relationships. Im do not think that any type serious dating or LTR is mentioned here at all.
To answer your question though, they are focking hot. That is the appeal.

 

[STR8UP]

I don't know about dating the yungins' anymore, but I got a nice ego boost from a young cashier when I was at the store today.

She was chatting me up asking me if I had a girlfriend, told her that I just got out of a relationship with a younger girl. She asked how old I am, and when I told her I was 34 she says, "DAMN! You look GOOD!"

Nice to know you can still attract the younger ones when you hit your 30's!

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by WestCoaster
To be honest, when I was younger I wish I dated younger women ... I dated some older women, it was stupid.

Like I said, I work at a university, and the women 18-24 are amazing -- and not just in the looks dept. -- but their attitudes are very positive. They love men, like to hang with them, laugh with them, sleep with them. I see them studying in our lobby every day and they really like men and appreciate them. They're da-n fun to be around.

I work at a commuter school so much of the population is older. Many of the older women who come in are trying to turn their lives around after bad marriages and/or boyfriends. Their attitude is a contrast to the young gals. They're somewhat bitter and trying to re-gain their positive attitudes. Some are awesome -- looks-wise and personality-wise -- many are not.

I want to lecture the 18-24 year olds and say, "Keep that attitude! Don't lose it!"

Sadly, they will fall for the philanderer/drunk and it's downhill from there.

So while I most likely won't be dating 18-24 soon (more like 30-40), people should date/sleep with whom they want. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head, we're all adults and people can make their own decisions.

Frankly, I applaud Eric! for gravitating toward women with positive attitudes. To me, it's WAY more about attitude than looks, because a smile on an average girl is always better than a scowl on an attractive one.

Wow, Westcoaster, is that attitude 100% on the money. I know a woman who is probably about 36. (She tells everyone 27, but if this is true, she is the world's most burned out, old ass looking 27 year old in United States History. She is "Bitterwoman") You can tell she has been to Hell and back with the menfolk. She still tries to dress and act young, but for example the other night, she hooked up with a younger guy who was ONLY IN TOWN FOR A WEEK. She knew this, he knew this. They hardly knew each other, but they were horny, and he screwed her. Well, the next day, he didnt even look at her, and she was PISSED! They hardly talked after that, I guess she was imagining the white picket fences and 2.5 kids with this guy, while he was making gross faces when I asked about her, and telling me "dude, I slept with a fat chick" type thing.

Then again, I know women in their mid twenties who have wonderful attitudes about life, vivacious and interested. And not only in men their age. They seem to enjoy a confident man, who takes his time, and is in no hurry for anything. They like a man who has his own life, and pursuits and hobbies, ect., but knows how to treat a woman. Funny, when you ignore the college football game at the bar, and use a little Kino, how much it can be reciprocated later in the evening.