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So I guess I made the mistake of befriending a pretty girl at college who only sees me as a friend. She has blown me off before and I responded with "it's okay. maybe we can hang out another time." This was BEFORE I found this website... Anyway, a couple weeks ago, I got a text message from her ugly fat roommate saying how my pretty friend told her "all about me" and suggesting we go out during the semester. The text ended with "I've heard great things about you from all my friends :))"

I didn't respond to the message... but what would a Don Juan do in this situation?

1. I don't appreciate the pretty girl giving out my number and telling people "all about me." I find it really creepy that someone I never even met knows "all about me."

2. If I'm such a great guy, why doesn't the pretty girl want me? Why is she giving me away to her ugly roommate? I'm actually pretty offended.

3. I don't need a girl's help getting girls. I can do it all on my own. If I wanted to ask out this ugly girl, I would have done it already. I've seen her around; I just never talked to her because I didn't want to.

I will be seeing the pretty girl today. I almost feel like I should tell her to f off. I always went to her charity events and she flaked on a concert she promised to go to. I've always been the shoulder for her to cry on. Literally, she cried on my shoulder. But f this. Should I just be nice when I see her and pretend I forgot about the text message or tell her not to give away my cell phone number like I'm a prostitute?

Yes, I'm pissed. All I hear is how there aren't any great guys then she acknowledged that I'm a great guy yet just wants to be friends. Then she gives out my number to her ugly friend. Just because I am a great guy, doesn't mean I want some fat ugly girl!
 

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user99321 said:
I didn't respond to the message... but what would a Don Juan do in this situation?
I'd either ignore it or just tell her No Thanks.


2. If I'm such a great guy, why doesn't the pretty girl want me? Why is she giving me away to her ugly roommate? I'm actually pretty offended.
Good thing you discovered this site. That's usually the question that brings a guy here, "This girl says that I'm a great guy, but she won't date me."

If you forget everything you see on this board, remember this: Judge a woman's actions. Not her words.

I love women, but Jesus Christ,....you can't listen to a freakin thing they say.

I will be seeing the pretty girl today. I almost feel like I should tell her to f off. I always went to her charity events and she flaked on a concert she promised to go to. I've always been the shoulder for her to cry on.
Don't tell her to f**k off. Give her no emotional response at all. Remember, the situations you put yourself in are YOUR fault. You have total control over the time you waste on these girls.

You like a girl? Make a move. She denies you? Move on.

Don't go to charity events. Don't be the shoulder to cry on. Don't be her texting buddy. She has something you want....if she can't give that to you, then forget about her.

The way into a woman's pants (and heart) is not through these sweet, "i care about you", "I'm not like other guys" gestures. It's through confidence and sexuality.

Yes, I'm pissed. All I hear is how there aren't any great guys then she acknowledged that I'm a great guy yet just wants to be friends.
She doesn't want just any great guy. She wants a great guy who makes her vag wet.

That's the thing girls don't tell you. They'll say "I want the guy who brings me flowers. The guy who lets me cry on his shoulder." But really, they want the guy who comes home reeking of sweat and sawdust, grunts at her to take her clothes off, f**ks her brains out, and asks her to make a steak afterwards.

You're just learning right now. But consider this a lesson - never take the path of the "shoulder to cry on" again. It's a waste of time, and it doesn't get you to your goal.
 

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I am learning this now. I guess showing any emotional response would be bad. It just pisses me off because if I'm not nice... I think girls won't talk to me at all. I am definitely done with the whole Nice Guy™ thing.

2 girls (different situations) were crying to me last semester about how some jerk took advantage of them. Then they got pissed off at me when I said "it's your own damn fault for putting yourself in that situation." One of the girls was like, "I think I was raped last Saturday night... but I don't want to call it that." And we had plans to hang out that night! She flaked on me to go to a party where she got drugged and raped by 2 guys without protection! Then she got mad at me for saying it's her own fault... God, girls are so dumb!
 

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Welcome aboard!!!... I remember when I first started :) Start absorbing as much info you can quickly.

What would I do?!? First off all.... STOP BEING PISSED!!! Who cares about that pretty girl? FvCK her!!! She missed out on you!

Use those emotions to self improve yourself on whatever you lack. Try to become more balanced.

Next time you talk to her... grow some balls and STOP agreeing/proving yourself to her... it should be the other way around.

You know what would be fun? Get to know her friend.. sure why not? Be part of both the pretty and fat girl social circle. Show her what you are made of and ROCK HER WORLD!!! You can start putting a small seed on the pretty girl and she'll regret passing you like a hot potato.

If you prove yourself... she'll become interested and will come to your arms. Then its your decision on what you would like to do.
 

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So I guess I made the mistake of befriending a pretty girl at college who only sees me as a friend. She has blown me off before and I responded with "it's okay. maybe we can hang out another time." This was BEFORE I found this website... Anyway, a couple weeks ago, I got a text message from her ugly fat roommate saying how my pretty friend told her "all about me" and suggesting we go out during the semester. The text ended with "I've heard great things about you from all my friends :))" I didn't respond to the message... but what would a Don Juan do in this situation?
I would just politely tell her "No thank you" It's not being a nice guy, or being a jerk. It's being a person with character and dignity. All her girlfriends would probably get pissed at you, but it's not your fault that you're not attracted to the ugly girl. But how many times have those hotties not replied to some dude's text who she gave her number to when wasted? Most women are extremely hypocritical in these situations.. If they show signs of hypocrisy they are not worth acknowledging. Take it with a grain of salt.


1. I don't appreciate the pretty girl giving out my number and telling people "all about me." I find it really creepy that someone I never even met knows "all about me."
Tell her next time she thinks about giving your number to a friend to text or call you first for your permission. Nothing wrong with having a female friend as long as you don't have one-itis for them, or she's a b1tch. Nothing wrong with the female friend telling good things about you to her friends either. I'd take it as a compliment.

2. If I'm such a great guy, why doesn't the pretty girl want me? Why is she giving me away to her ugly roommate? I'm actually pretty offended.
Perhaps you didn't make a move on her right away? You didn't bring your A-Game? Or maybe she was not attracted to begin with? Could be a variety of things.. Who cares what she thinks, just realize where you might have made a mistake and don't let it happen again. This could range anywhere from being too nice to her, being too available etc.. You gotta keep girls you're sexually interested in at a distance.

3. I don't need a girl's help getting girls. I can do it all on my own. If I wanted to ask out this ugly girl, I would have done it already. I've seen her around; I just never talked to her because I didn't want to.
Let this female friend know that, but you don't have to come off as a jerk about it. Say something along the lines of, "The effort's appreciated, but I don't have a problem with dating women."

I will be seeing the pretty girl today. I almost feel like I should tell her to f off. I always went to her charity events and she flaked on a concert she promised to go to. I've always been the shoulder for her to cry on. Literally, she cried on my shoulder. But f this. Should I just be nice when I see her and pretend I forgot about the text message or tell her not to give away my cell phone number like I'm a prostitute?
Sounds like she's not a true friend, but rather a "friendzone" friend. There's a big difference that a lot of guys refuse to recognize on here. I have a few awesome female friends that I hangout with all the time that are a ton of fun to be around.. They're more tomboyish I guess, but they're definitely not UGs. Keep your distance from this chick.. She sounds manipulative.

Yes, I'm pissed. All I hear is how there aren't any great guys then she acknowledged that I'm a great guy yet just wants to be friends. Then she gives out my number to her ugly friend. Just because I am a great guy, doesn't mean I want some fat ugly girl!
Common case of "girl-in-her-twenties-itis". That's why it's not worth getting emotionally invested in women at this age. Go out and have fun with your friends, bang ch1cks at parties on the weekends, and let them do all the emotional thinking and the "where are we heading" talks. You're in the prime of your life, and being emotionally invested in a woman is just going to hold you back from pursuing your goals and dreams.

For example, my band had this idiot AFC drummer a while ago. He started skipping planned gigs to hangout with his girlfriend, but everyone in my band didn't have the balls to say "OK, you're out." So as founder of the band, I did it myself and said to the rest of the band.. "If you're okay with losing money and exposure cause our drummer wants to go hangout and watch 2 star chick flicks with his girlfriend, then you shouldn't be in a band.. He's a good friend, but he's not compensating with the demands of the rest of us so he has to go." They all agreed, and I kicked him out.

Since he did that...
-His girlfriend dumped him and put him on "creeper" status.
-He missed out on the experience of doing multiple tours and releasing albums over a 4 year span.
-He quit playing drums.

Now is one girlfriend worth this? NO!

Now go out and find other hot HB's to bang! :up:
 

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hmmm... I never thought about this. I guess it's too late to respond to that text... but I should be friendly with the ugly girl if I see her. Get her to introduce me to others in her social circle. I really don't want to date this ugly girl or hook up with her... but maybe I should respond with "yeah, let's have lunch sometime" then be really funny and awesome with her. Then she will go back to her dorm room and tell the pretty girl how awesome I am... Maybe the pretty girl will realize my high value and then want me...

Except... this plan will never work. I really don't want a girl this ugly and her close pretty friends are *****y and full of themselves. I don't think any of these girls deserves me.
 

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user99321 said:
I made the mistake of befriending a pretty girl at college
If you're really a woman's "friend" then it shouldn't matter that she's pretty. If it does, and that's why you talk to her, then you are using the word "friend" to mean something like girl I want to fvck, but can't. That's not what a friend is.

Next time there's a ugly chick and hot one who know each other, if you have to have a female friend, then talk to the ugly one first. Be cordial to the hot one, but give more attention to the ugly one. That's a bar pickup tactic from Mystery, I think - when approaching groups or pairs, always talk to the ugly one first. That sets you apart from all the other guys.
 

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I read SOOOOO much material on this website over break. And I plan to watch those youtube videos this week.

I don't really see myself as the type of guy to bang random chicks. I just want respect from people, especially girls. I am tired of being friend-zoned when I know that my value is actually much higher than just about anyone here. I have always been the guy who goes out of his way for other people, expecting the same in return... then being disappointed when the other person doesn't give a sh1t about me. Those days are OVER.
 

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Thank you so much for the advice, everyone!!

I really am putting a lot of effort into this shift from Nice Guy to MAN and the information on this website has been a great help in changing my habits.
 

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user99321 said:
I read SOOOOO much material on this website over break. And I plan to watch those youtube videos this week.

I don't really see myself as the type of guy to bang random chicks. I just want respect from people, especially girls. I am tired of being friend-zoned when I know that my value is actually much higher than just about anyone here. I have always been the guy who goes out of his way for other people, expecting the same in return... then being disappointed when the other person doesn't give a sh1t about me. Those days are OVER.
Well that's cool too. Much higher than SS posters? If you have high value, you don't have to brag about it.. Just like a rich man doesn't have to tell anyone he's rich.

The way to get people to have respect for you is to put your foot down. If someone asks you to do something that you don't want to do, straight up tell them "no". You gotta stick up for yourself, and you made a pro-active decision by joining this board.
 

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No no no! haha when I said "here," I meant at my university, not this website! haha
 
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