Clubs vs. Bars

[State]

I never realized how different sarging in bars is from clubs. People in general are so much friendlier in these places. I'm not talking about your typical martini lounges but rather whole in the wall pubs.

Does anyone actually prefer club sarging to this?

 

[SuperAlbert]

Eh... they're all different. It really depends on the atmosphere I think.

 

[Scrumtulescence]

Bars aren't necessarily the level of "meat market" that clubs are. It's perfectly normal to go to a pub with some friends just for the sake of getting a drink and hanging out for a good time. But when you go to a club, it's understood that you're pvssy-huntin'.

 

[realsmoothie]

I dunno about that. A lot of girls to clubs just to dance, while you don't dance at a bar you can only just socialize.

In MY experience, the crowd at bars is older than a club.

But, without a dance floor, pickups are harder. Girls are more defensive sitting at a table (and also are usually there with other guys).

 

[Le Parisien]

Clubs vs. Bars?

Just a few things that come to my mind, in no specific order:

- Clubs involve dancing, so good dancers have a very good edge there

- "Anyone" will go to bars from time to time, but many would never set foot to dance clubs, and the reasons might be:
1) They are shy
2) They don't like loud music
3) They are not physically attractive
4) Clubs are authentic meat markets, rejections AND acceptations are made very quickly, and brutally, no bullsh*t, no excuse, no "polite" socially acceptable courtesy, "I dance with you if I like what I see, I walk away if I don't". Many people, especially the ugly ones can't take the psychological hit. And it's especially true for ugly chicks.

- For the above reason, clubs tend to have people who are younger and physically attractive

- In clubs, movement is very "fluid". Unlike in bars, you don't need to sit at a specific table, close to some hot chicks, and elaborate some excuse/tactic to walk to their table without looking too sleazy. You walk/dance around, look for your targets, try, succeed or walk away and restart again...

- Girls at dance clubs are thinner younger and much more attractive than the average female population, guys at dance clubs are usually not short or fat. And overall, people are more dressed up for clubs than for bars.

- Good dancers who love to dance will always prefer clubs, while I assume that guys who have more "verbal game" would probably prefer bars...

- In clubs, body language is much more important than "real language", because well, with the loud music, people usually can't hear sh*t...

 

[Derek Flint]

I don't go to clubs to dance, I go to clubs/bars/pubs/taverns/lounges to meet women.

Here's a response I wrote from an earlier thread on why I think dance clubs are a waste of time compared to bars/pubs/taverns/lounges:

I rarely go to dance clubs anymore.

Instead, I go to the "Pub/Lounge" type places for several reasons:

1) Most of these places don't have dance floors, although they do have ambient background music.
The women that go to these places are there to meet guys, not to dance.

2) The music is more for atmosphere at pubs/lounges and is not ear-splitting loud. It makes it 1000% easier to talk to women and run your game.

When you're at a dance club and you're trying to talk to women, you have to lean in so close to hear/be heard that you can't hold eye contact during conversation or read body language and almost have to yell to communicate.

You say something, and she says "what?" - you repeat yourself, this time louder and she still can't hear you.
Eventually she does, but then you're the one saying "what?" to her reply, and on and on, back and forth.
Very frustrating and a waste of time.

And for you students of SS, it makes it impossible to use patterns (shifting tonality and such) in a loud atmosphere.

Not to mention, most of these places get really crowded to the point where you have to fight your way thru the crowd and wait forever to get a drink or use the bathroom.

Not to mention, it gets hot and sweaty in those places due to the large crowd. No thanks.

3) Dance clubs are often populated with groups of women who are just out for a night of dancing with the girls and nothing more. They enjoy the attention and all the AFC's buying them drinks just so they can dance with them.
Again, the Pub/Lounge going women are pretty much there strictly to meet guys.

4) Dance clubs usually have some cover charge of anywhere from $10.00 to $30.00 or more, as well as a long wait to get in.
If after you wait in line for an hour and drop a fair amount of coin to get in and don't like the scenery, too bad.
Besides, I've got better things to do with my Weekend night(s) out than to stand in line for an hour while watching all the people on the VIP list waltz right in.

I go to an area in San Francisco where there are about 10 upscale pubs/lounges within a quarter-mile radius. (The "Triangle" in the Marina district)

You should see how packed the streets get in this area on a weekend night.
It's almost like one big street party.
No cover charge or wait to get into any of these places either.

5) If you're not a good dancer, you probably won't do that well at dance clubs. The alternate is to take the time to learn to dance well.
The problem with that is that it's time - consuming and only helps your game in one environment.

That's time and effort you could be using to hone your DJ skills.
Skills that will help you PU in any environment, not just dance clubs.

In my opinion, the Pub/Lounge scene is a better bet than the Dance Club scene when it comes to meeting and picking up women.

 

[zerocelcius]

I think each case is diffrent.