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Choice vs Selection

jgvisions

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New to game and all of this and still learning. I'm posting in regards to not understanding courtship periods. I mean the over all process of it is just confusing given how I think the mainstream manosphere culture has taught us about women and mating. Let me explain.

About 5 years ago I stumbled onto the game by neil strauss and dived into the world of PUA. More or less I was an inquisitive spectator of the subculture itself because it was interesting to me. as I got older and looked back at my own experiences with women, I realized I have had a very disasterous record with women and I never understood why. Dating was horrible, school was a pain with them, and work environments was constantly hostile no matter how nice or reserved I was with them but I moved on. I never really took it personally and I was surprising forgetful of a lot of stuff so I never connected the dots.

Now I'm in the military, lost a tone of weight and my look has changed. Now I have been indoctrinated with the whole chase/run push pull concept of courtship and my experiences with this on the whole have been painful and downright destructive. I could never pull a chick in my past life pre-military and now I cant pull a chick while in regardless of my look but I get glares and looks by subpar women. Fat chicks, ugly chicks, women with kids(falls into fat, ugly, or used-up), women who are freaking pregnant, women with square bodies and pancake ass, women over 50, or old women with their husbands. It pisses me off something fierce because I tried my hardest to master basic social skills to do cold approaches and the more and more realize I never do the choosing. Its the female that does all the choosing so at the end of the day, its these subpar pieces of **** that I am left with and I don't know why. I remember all my earlier life I got rejected for the dumbest things and now that I look better, feel better, and project better, this is what I'm left with. Trash and garbage.

Am I being narcissistic or is the dating game just ****ing rigged?
 

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Society has "told" all women they deserve a man like you..... the "you go girl" bullslit, etc. One thing you need to understand. IF a woman scored Brad Pitt , even a pump and dump, she thinks that's what she "deserves" While you and I have been rejected enough to know when we scored Angelina, the stars were aligned and we will never hit that high again...

The hotter girls will give more subtle signs of interest, as long as you ignore them like you do the undesirable ones..... They can't stand a lack of attention...
 

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jgvisions,

What you're encountering is evidence of the subject of an ongoing debate:

What is a man of worth's biggest obstacle when it comes to finding the type of woman that he REALLY wants?

Is it his "Scarcity Mentality" or is it "Actual Scarcity" of attractive, eligible women available for him to choose from in his current environment?

Well, some men feel pretty strongly that if a man can't find an attractive woman---it's HIS fault, because he's obviously not applying himself enough or his general "negativity" is keeping attractive women always just out of his line of sight. Although, I believe that this CAN be true sometimes---I believe that more likely that the problem is this:

As a man betters himself---and his standards of self-improvement have been raised---so TOO will his standards for the type/caliber of women that he's willing to engage.

Also, sometimes an important key to a man's success with women is similar to that old saying about the biggest factor to a man's success in business:

"It's all about location, Location LOCATION."

For instance, a man working on a blocked-off, construction site is gonna have less opportunities to get with women than a man working on an all female college campus. One guy's environment is less conducive meeting women while the other guy's is MORE. You see what I'm getting at?

Here are the marching orders I'd give you, soldier:

  • Either relocate or start frequently visiting other more chick-populated areas in town (or OUT of town if you must) in order increase the sheer number of chances that you can meet MORE women. That way, just by the law of averages, you'll eventually run into SOME women that you'll be attracted to.
  • Continue to focus on building yourself into a better man externally, AND INTERNALLY (because being a multifaceted,honorable man is an INSIDE job too). Over the course of time, you'll find that when your sense of worth "truly" comes from "yourself"---then no chick or "lack of a chick" will ever be able to shake your stable, masculine foundation.FYI - Whenever "how some random babe is responding or NOT RESPONDING to you still really bothers you"----then just accept the fact that you've still got some more inner work to do.
  • Lastly, when you get some free time, listen to the episode of the Victory Unlimited Show posted below. It'll shed more light on how typical PUA teachings can leave many guys feeling defeated or disillusioned.

Mission# 17 – Objective: Why Pickup Artist tricks, Seduction Guru gimmicks, and Player games will ALWAYS fail you!

Much Respect to you.


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