can you use the same IL rules for women from online as real life?

pete101

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with the age of the internet not all women are open to meeting someone off the internet unless they find them attractive etc.. especially if it's a pick u on facebook. my case in point, i was talking to a german model last week on facebook, she's into guys of my race so i thought ok i'm in with a chance. she's spectacular as she would be for a 5'9'' model and i assume she only entertained the idea of meeting because she thought i was cute. she wouldn't give me her number (yes that's a sign of low IL but if she's never met someone from internet before and think they're all weirdos is this reasonable?) i made a bad joke about height not mattering when we're horizontal. she wasn't inclined to meet last week as she was busy, but said next week is good (this week) so yesterday i message her saying it was next week and we should get together yesterday or thursday. she messages me back on facebook messenger saying what's the earliest i could do, this is where i made my error, i said i was starting a new job in a few weeks so could meet whenever (too available.. and too available to her) so ask what time is good for her? she says 'today 4.30pm?) i say 'ok sure meet me by the station at 4.30pm next to the bank ok? i'll call you over facebook messenger unless you're ready to give me your number now' no response.. now im thinking why is she going to the trouble of offering 4.30pm if she can't make it? is it just attention seeking?

mistake i made was saying i was in an area near so if she could meet now then it'll take me about 20 mins to come down and park.. way too available. i got too excited because she was a model. she says no she's at a casting. so i say so 4.30pm is better? she said 'yes' so i say 'ok i'll meet you by the station then' she hadn't seen the message and it approached 4.30pm. i wasn't going to leave to go down without confirmation so i sent something back if she was still at a casting.. wasn't seen the time had passed so i call her on facebook messenger, no answer, she messages me back saying 'sorry im still in a meeting' im way to desperate and available, intstead of just leaving it i say 'ok just let me know when you've finished your casting adn i'll come down, i can't meet right now i'm with a friend so it'll have to be 6.30pm onwards' i see she's on facebook messenger but not reading my messages on purpose it seems.. so i get annoyed and tell her why is she offering 4.30pm if she cant make it in the first place or asking what's the earliest i can meet.. i was in a pissy mood then so i didn't care, i just felt she was being disrespectful and also she's an internet girl so i can't rely on her. obviously i handled it wrong but in this circumstance, the girl is attracted to you physically, wary about meeting a stranger off the internet, how does one actually navigate it without doing what i did?

should i have just kept a strong frame, said i can do x time, and see what her response is.. i just dont understand why she was p1ssing me about.. she obv changed her mind as i was too available and desperate to see her, so i had it out with her removed her from friends. that's the end of it. i can't force her to meet me but at same time i need a certain level of want from her side otherwise there's little i can do.. i was bending over backwards to see her thinking if i meet her at least i wont be stranger anymore and penalised for this stuff. i wouldn't meet a model in my everyday life so for one who's into my race is really a dime a dozen but doesn't mean i should lose frame and become all afc like i did. i can't say i wouldn't act siimilarly in future but it's kinda hard keeping a strong frame when you feel you have something to lose.
 

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The fact that you've written such a long text in which you overanalyze every single word and situation tells me that you started with the wrong mindset.

She is clearly the person having all the power, which is something you should avoid at all costs. Remember: The person who cares less has all the power. And you should be the one who cares less. Always.

You know which mistakes you made, you enumerated them in your text. You know that you shouldn't be too available, but you threw all your principles overboard because you were blinded by her high value and feared that you would never meet her if you limited your availability.

Let me tell you this: She is NOT superior to you. Your time is valuable. And (very important!!!): To get the woman, you have to be willing to lose her!
 

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pete101 said:
with the age of the internet not all women are open to meeting someone off the internet unless they find them attractive etc.. especially if it's a pick u on facebook. my case in point, i was talking to a german model last week on facebook, she's into guys of my race so i thought ok i'm in with a chance. she's spectacular as she would be for a 5'9'' model and i assume she only entertained the idea of meeting because she thought i was cute. she wouldn't give me her number (yes that's a sign of low IL but if she's never met someone from internet before and think they're all weirdos is this reasonable?) i made a bad joke about height not mattering when we're horizontal. she wasn't inclined to meet last week as she was busy, but said next week is good (this week) so yesterday i message her saying it was next week and we should get together yesterday or thursday. she messages me back on facebook messenger saying what's the earliest i could do, this is where i made my error, i said i was starting a new job in a few weeks so could meet whenever (too available.. and too available to her) so ask what time is good for her? she says 'today 4.30pm?) i say 'ok sure meet me by the station at 4.30pm next to the bank ok? i'll call you over facebook messenger unless you're ready to give me your number now' no response.. now im thinking why is she going to the trouble of offering 4.30pm if she can't make it? is it just attention seeking?

mistake i made was saying i was in an area near so if she could meet now then it'll take me about 20 mins to come down and park.. way too available. i got too excited because she was a model. she says no she's at a casting. so i say so 4.30pm is better? she said 'yes' so i say 'ok i'll meet you by the station then' she hadn't seen the message and it approached 4.30pm. i wasn't going to leave to go down without confirmation so i sent something back if she was still at a casting.. wasn't seen the time had passed so i call her on facebook messenger, no answer, she messages me back saying 'sorry im still in a meeting' im way to desperate and available, intstead of just leaving it i say 'ok just let me know when you've finished your casting adn i'll come down, i can't meet right now i'm with a friend so it'll have to be 6.30pm onwards' i see she's on facebook messenger but not reading my messages on purpose it seems.. so i get annoyed and tell her why is she offering 4.30pm if she cant make it in the first place or asking what's the earliest i can meet.. i was in a pissy mood then so i didn't care, i just felt she was being disrespectful and also she's an internet girl so i can't rely on her. obviously i handled it wrong but in this circumstance, the girl is attracted to you physically, wary about meeting a stranger off the internet, how does one actually navigate it without doing what i did?

should i have just kept a strong frame, said i can do x time, and see what her response is.. i just dont understand why she was p1ssing me about.. she obv changed her mind as i was too available and desperate to see her, so i had it out with her removed her from friends. that's the end of it. i can't force her to meet me but at same time i need a certain level of want from her side otherwise there's little i can do.. i was bending over backwards to see her thinking if i meet her at least i wont be stranger anymore and penalised for this stuff. i wouldn't meet a model in my everyday life so for one who's into my race is really a dime a dozen but doesn't mean i should lose frame and become all afc like i did. i can't say i wouldn't act siimilarly in future but it's kinda hard keeping a strong frame when you feel you have something to lose.
You know what mistakes you made but you put her up way too much in your mind. Even if you saw her it wouldn't have worked out because of this you know that.

Why give her so much value because she is a model? That does not mean ****. Get your self-esteem up and stop thinking so damn negatively about yourself and so highly of these kind of girls. It is right through the whole message. Get to a position where you are screening her, for more than just being a model. If you are going to approve of her just by looks you could just as easily visit the red-light district ;)
 

pete101

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Models arent usually on my race especially hot tall ones. Im pretty good in person i just suffer from anxiety issues which ****s up my game and the lesrning process. Yesterday was a bad day all round i shouldn't be surprised it happened and me wrecking it being all stroppy just justifies her decision not to meet. I would rather she wasn't interested in first place then knowing she was interested and thought i was cute.
 
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