Can you be PERSISTANT --- W/o sounding like a Whining Kid in a TOY store

[toot86]

This is a big problem I have I really belive in Confident Persistant .. IN all of my sarges but I just get tired of hearing my voice sound like iam whining for a brand new toy..



It happends when iam trying to get a ..

#
ISOLATION
Dance
Kiss


but


It usually goes like this ..

Aproach a girl .. Fluff talk... Tell her to come dance with me... Says no shes tired... More fluff talk and kino.. .... tell her to dance with me again.. Says shes tired.. .this goes on for aslong as the girl doesnt walk away.. or I just get soo upset of me sounding like iam whining or desprate for a dance or a ISOLATION


After awhile it just sounds like iam whining to my mom to buy me a brand new toy at TOYS R US...



it goes the same for it when iam asking to ISOLATE.. or For Her #


Is this what CP supposed to be like???

 

[Helter Skelter]

You sound winey because you are.
CP applies to, not every type of situation.

Personally I hate bars and clubs, those are the worst places to pick up a girl.

HB's get hit on so much at those places, I'm suprised they don't puke all over the floor from all the DJ's and AFC's hitting on them.

If you want to practice getting rejected those are the best places to go. There a meat market, unless you look like a greek god you don't stand much of a chance.

Go some place else to practice CP.

 

[toot86]

Originally posted by Helter Skelter
You sound winey because you are.
CP applies to, not every type of situation.

Personally I hate bars and clubs, those are the worst places to pick up a girl.

HB's get hit on so much at those places, I'm suprised they don't puke all over the floor from all the DJ's and AFC's hitting on them.

If you want to practice getting rejected those are the best places to go. There a meat market, unless you look like a greek god you don't stand much of a chance.

Go some place else to practice CP.

I think it would be the same thing I tried CP in a libary and the girl wouldnt give me her # because she was married.. And I tried and tried and still i thought i sounded whiny..

And she didint give it to me ..

 

[Helter Skelter]

CP applies to situation where your pursing a girl over a period of weeks, months, even years for that matter.

It's not going to happen in 2 hrs. Plus it needs to be girls that your going to see from time to time.

Be prepared, most will probably always say no. Use your gut feeling on who you might have the best shot with.

 

[Mr. Latte]

A lot of you are going to disagree, but I say you only ask ONCE. If she refuses, throw out a bit of C+F. After you've asked, the only way you get her # is if she OFFERS it. If a girl that you were into asked you for your #, would you refuse to give it to her? (that's all these lame excuses are, they're refusals.) If you ask, and she says no, maybe your C+F comment will knock her off her guard, and she'll change her impression of you. If not, then why fight a losing battle? She's not gonna give you her number, because she's not interested. If she DOES, it's only to get you to go away. Put yourself in the girl's shoes here...if you were into her, you'd give her your #. If not, it's because you're not interested. Do yourself a favor and save a lot of time and trouble, and move on.

 

[Helter Skelter]

I disagree.

For example, one of the girls who works in my office turned her now husband down, many, many, many times for over a year before she finally agreed to go out on a date with him.
She even avoided his phone calls where they met at her previous job.

Giving up is the easiest thing to do, but not always the best.

Cheers,

Helter

 

[squirrels]

CP is not a "club tactic." You're obviously missing the point entirely if you think just asking a girl over and over again is CP...it's not. It's desperation. If a girl rejects you like that in the club, your best move is to go find another girl...or just continue to have fun with or without a girl. You're obviously not doing enough to show that you ARE the special, confident individual she wants to be with...this is exemplified by the fact that she rejects you and you still hang around her instead of walking away.

If a girl's not interested, persisting in what you're doing will be persisting in making her disinterested or even repelled. You need to attract her...SHOW her some value. Show some confidence, ambition, conversational skills, dance moves, SOMETHING.

 

[violator]

CP in a club setting is quite pathetic looking. It really does make you look desperate.

CP really only works over a period of time with someone you have already established a rapport with and you see or talk to on a regular basis.

In a club it is different because women usually have their bytch shields up and get hit on by every other guy. What distinguishes you from the others is your indifference knowing that if she rejects your advances or does not seem interested, you will not care and just go for the next target rather than following her around like a dog begging for some scraps.

 

[Dee-Zy]

Originally posted by toot86
I think it would be the same thing I tried CP in a libary and the girl wouldnt give me her # because she was married.. And I tried and tried and still i thought i sounded whiny..

And she didint give it to me ..

Dude - she's married!!! Why would u persist???

lol

Do u even know what get'N a number means? It's a test. A Interest Level test. if she is not willing to give you her number, meaning she is NOT INTERESTED to have any other form of further contact with you.

Tha means she's not interested!!!

Learn the difference between when to be persistant.


GHOST

 

[Dee-Zy]

Originally posted by Helter Skelter
I disagree.

For example, one of the girls who works in my office turned her now husband down, many, many, many times for over a year before she finally agreed to go out on a date with him.
She even avoided his phone calls where they met at her previous job.

Giving up is the easiest thing to do, but not always the best.

Cheers,

Helter

What I am interested in is - under what conditions did this happend. I can think of a million reasons worth pursuing as well as ten million reasons not to. It's all about the situation.

 

[princelydeeds]

If trying to get with a married chick, which I strongly discourage, don't ask for the number. How can she give you the number if shes married? I mean even if its a cell phone many chicks don't pay the bill so their husband is gonna see your number on the phone bill. I know guys who answer their wives/girlfriends cell phones anyway. I can't see how getting a married womans number is ever gonna work. I think its more likely to happen if you give her your number.

I don't like the idea of seducing married women, but I do know that it takes time. Patience tends to work more than CP. You have to get to know her and talk to her. If your gonna put the thought of you and her on her brain, then you have to get to know her in a manner in which she knows she can trust you. Shes gotta know that you can keep a secret and she has to know that you aren't going to fall all in love with her the minute you get sum of that luvin. She has to believe that even though shes sleeping with you, you still see her as a woman and not a scandalous *****. She is putting her marriage in your hands, and It takes a little time to get that kinda trust.

 

[Helter Skelter]

Dee-Zy

They both worked at a hospital on diffrent floors both were in serious relationships at the time.

He would find an excuse to stop by her floor and would flirt and would ask her out on a regular basis to the point that he was annoying and she would avoid him when she could.

Eventually she gave in, now their married.

The serect of pursuing a girl over a long period of time is to have other girls in your life or you will go crazy.

I've been pursing a girl now for six months although I've made no effort to see her for the last 3 months.

She gave me her e-mail but never responded when I wrote her.
The friggin nerve.

So I'm taking a break and will try again to swing by her work place and see what I can do in a month or so because we definitely have a great chemstry going. She has a boyfriend who is getting in the way.

 

[Dee-Zy]

Originally posted by Helter Skelter
Dee-Zy

They both worked at a hospital on diffrent floors both were in serious relationships at the time.

He would find an excuse to stop by her floor and would flirt and would ask her out on a regular basis to the point that he was annoying and she would avoid him when she could.

Eventually she gave in, now their married.

The serect of pursuing a girl over a long period of time is to have other girls in your life or you will go crazy.

I've been pursing a girl now for six months although I've made no effort to see her for the last 3 months.

She gave me her e-mail but never responded when I wrote her.
The friggin nerve.

So I'm taking a break and will try again to swing by her work place and see what I can do in a month or so because we definitely have a great chemstry going. She has a boyfriend who is getting in the way.

What I am more interested in is her actualy body language. Story sounds good but u jumped too soon. From a date that she caved in - to wedding? What they got married after on date? lol
I see your point though. Good point.