Can Women Really Tell?

[joey2times]

Question: Have you ever noticed that when you're faking something it doesn't usually work with women?

I mean I've tried to act aloof, or like I didn't care when going through a breakup, but it always seemed she could tell I was still stuck on her.

But, when I actually did get over her, a lot of times should we start making an effort like she somehow knew I really had lost interest.

Do women have some kind of sixth sense where they can cut through the bs?

 

[Interceptor]

Yes.
Absolutely.

However, let's be practial, it is NOT some "superpower" or mystical BS thing.


Here's something every man needs to know.

Women are afraid.
many of them.

They are afraid of you.
Not all, but some. But the point is this.
They are often "ON their GUARD.
Hence, the B*tch shield, sh*t tests and such.


What do people need to do to ascertain the level of threat you may possess in order to protect themselves from you?

They study and observe you.
And they connect the dots with actions of other people whom have harmed them in the past, or not.


Women can pick up who you are on your body language and body type without looking at you directly.

So can you, but not as quick as they can.

They look at your eyes, your breathing, your body language, posture, tone of voice, your clothes, your phrasing of the words...

A lot of things give women clues.

If you ask some women , many of them will say that they 'communicate to you with their bodies."

How else can an expert in congruent body language be able to tell what is fake and what is not?
Bottom line, women feel they have a lot to lose. They feel weaker and vulnerable.
So they have to observe you andquickly determine what kind of person you are.
Do you laugh and smile?
Are you nervous and twitchy?
Do you have relaxed body language and facial movements?
Is your humor forced or starined in any way?
Do you react with jealousy and posessiveness early in the interaction?
Is your voice cracking and nervous?
Are you fushed form embarassment?
Are you forgetting what you said 3 seconds earlier?
Do you remeber the exact details of what she said, memorized line for line?
Or are you less impressed and stunned by her beauty that you treat her like a normal person and don't hang on her every word?


These and much more are being guaged byher as you speak.
And she's doing so both consciously and unconsciously.

 

[lildevil]

I think is true that they can sense if your faking something or not because It has to do alot with our ignorance and inability of hiding our emotions.

I mean if a guy likes a girl you can easily detect interest by his body language the way he talks and even if he tries to fake it...it will be hard for him.

while a girl can be interested in a guy and covertly hide her emotions and act normal in front of him making it hard for him to see the interest level in the chick.

its and advantage that they have developed naturally over the years.

 

[KontrollerX]

No they don't have any sixth sense or any "women's intuition" b.s.

Thats all magical thinking and part of the whole matrix mentality explained in the book The Manipulated Man.

More than likely she just assumed she was so important that no matter how you were acting you must of been crushed.

More arrogance than anything really.

If a guy keeps up the act of being over her (assuming his emotions are still affected) the arrogance starts to crumble and then she comes running back believing oh holy sh** this guy really doesn't care about me after all better change that one last time before dropping him again!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Question: Have you ever noticed that when you're faking something it doesn't usually work with women?

I mean I've tried to act aloof, or like I didn't care when going through a breakup, but it always seemed she could tell I was still stuck on her.

But, when I actually did get over her, a lot of times should we start making an effort like she somehow knew I really had lost interest.

Do women have some kind of sixth sense where they can cut through the bs?

Guys typically do things at polar extremes, unfortunately these extremes aren't congruent with their character, their demeanor nor their physical presentation. Is it a sixth sense that women have? Not at all. They just are typically more perceptive than men.

Guys who aren't perceptive themselves usually have a problem with qualifying women (if they even try at all). This is why so many guys write about the myriad of problems they are having with women. It's not necessarily because they are doing the wrong things, they are just doing things with the wrong woman.

 

[Snow Plowman]

It's called sub-communication...everyone does it women are more in tuned to it then the average man because women are more social than men.

After awhile you notice sub-communication without even consciously thinking about it.

Personally right now I can notice the following...
- When someone is qualifying themselves too me or seeking for my approval
- When a chick is giving me kino as a sh!t test
- I can see when a guy is about to approach a chick and can tell if he is nervous or not
- Guys who are trying to do or put on a act that is not confident

Like some guys say yourself is always shining through. If your not congruent to what your projecting, a girl can see it and majority of the time they'll blow you out in a instant.

Sub-communication is the what this game is all about.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Sub-communication is the what this game is all about.

Do you need a decoder ring to play?

 

[Nexus Polaris]

Yes.
Absolutely.

However, let's be practial, it is NOT some "superpower" or mystical BS thing.


Here's something every man needs to know.

Women are afraid.
many of them.

They are afraid of you.
Not all, but some. But the point is this.
They are often "ON their GUARD.
Hence, the B*tch shield, sh*t tests and such.


What do people need to do to ascertain the level of threat you may possess in order to protect themselves from you?

They study and observe you.
And they connect the dots with actions of other people whom have harmed them in the past, or not.


Women can pick up who you are on your body language and body type without looking at you directly.

So can you, but not as quick as they can.

They look at your eyes, your breathing, your body language, posture, tone of voice, your clothes, your phrasing of the words...

A lot of things give women clues.

If you ask some women , many of them will say that they 'communicate to you with their bodies."

How else can an expert in congruent body language be able to tell what is fake and what is not?
Bottom line, women feel they have a lot to lose. They feel weaker and vulnerable.
So they have to observe you andquickly determine what kind of person you are.
Do you laugh and smile?
Are you nervous and twitchy?
Do you have relaxed body language and facial movements?
Is your humor forced or starined in any way?
Do you react with jealousy and posessiveness early in the interaction?
Is your voice cracking and nervous?
Are you fushed form embarassment?
Are you forgetting what you said 3 seconds earlier?
Do you remeber the exact details of what she said, memorized line for line?
Or are you less impressed and stunned by her beauty that you treat her like a normal person and don't hang on her every word?


These and much more are being guaged byher as you speak.
And she's doing so both consciously and unconsciously.

Most brilliant post in here. I always knew they were more finely tuned into things like that than us, but I never stopped to think about why.

 

[mrRuckus]

If they could tell so well they wouldn't be so damn surprised when you fvck her and don't call her again. And there wouldnt be a million magazines and advice columns cause they would already have a clue. They don't.

 

[Snow Plowman]

If they could tell so well they wouldn't be so damn surprised when you fvck her and don't call her again. And there wouldnt be a million magazines and advice columns cause they would already have a clue. They don't.

This is different to what he is talking about. The reason a chick is surprise is because she' backwards rationalized what happened and is trying to rationalize how she had sex so quick.

It's glitch in the whole thing...the chick gets emotional and it disarms her logic so she isn't logically thinking about certain things going on, you could be getting her emotional while she's on her job and she won't even remember she's working. It's all how the female mind works.

A good example of this is a chick who I gamed while she was working, I manage to get her to leave her post and run over and try my food right in front of the manager. If she wasn't in the state of mind she would've easily said know because her manager is there and she did hesistate for a moment but I just gave her the emotions she needed.

Everyone can read sub-communication if there in tune to it and after awhile you do pick up on it. It's all about being congruent to what your doing. This is exactly like frame control also.

 

[Maxtro]

Being able to read sub-communication might as well be a 6th sense. But the more important question is how does one control what they sub-communicate and what should be communicated? This is something I must learn how to do.

 

[ElStud]

Yes women can tell when you're not being real or if somethings off. They can sense when a guys being real and when a guys not being true to his feelings. They can tell when a guys saying something, but feeling something completely different. See, it's all about women being able to sense what you're sub-communicating.

 

[Mr. Wolf]

What really matters guys, is do you care if she can tell or not.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Being able to read sub-communication might as well be a 6th sense. But the more important question is how does one control what they sub-communicate and what should be communicated? This is something I must learn how to do.

It comes from yout thought patterns and are sub-communicated by your behavior patterns.

Example
A guy who is thinking "Wow this chick is so hot" will qualify himself, be reactive, won't be confident when it comes time to approach, hesistates, don't want to say anything stupid.

A guy who is thinking "Haha there goes a chick" will go in confident and amuse himself, he'll break rapport, he is unaffected by her responses

Sub-communication is what clearly shows who is good with women and who is not.

What really matters guys, is do you care if she can tell or not.

You should care...this is what the girl is actually seeing and is her deciding factor as to whether or not she likes who you are. All these tactics and techniques were made with a specific sub-communication in mind.

For Example
- Breaking rapport conveys higher value because higher value people don't need anything from anyone so there more likely to break rapport
- False Time Constraint can convey that your high value, willing to walk away, not needy or reactive (Bad) depending on the thought behind it.

This is same with kinoing, guys are all thinking from a gropy mindset instead of just a fun and playful time. Slapping her ass won't be wierd at all because its pure fun and alpha. Meanwhile coming from a gropy mindset it is done from a position of trying to cop a feel.

Alot of people are mislead when they learn all these tactics and techniques. You could basically write down a set of thought patterns and behavior patterns that conveys the thought and just focus on internalizing it. (I've been doing that for 6 months)

Just doing alone will change who you are and get results. For me personally I get approached 1-2 times a day...and as I proved to myself yesterday even if I have my hair all fuked up and physically look like sh!t, I'll still get opened...because I convey the right things.

All that is really needed is a roadmap of how to pickup and an understanding of female psychology that way you'll know how to actually get the girl instead of wondering when to call, how to open that group, how to isolate, etc.

Majority of people don't look at sub-communication because they are so focused on the tactics and techniques...what's the best way to open, what's the best way to kiss, etc. All of that is irrelevant if you are sub-communicating the right things. That's not to say that tactics and techniques is crappy, not at all.

What I'm saying is implement the tactics and techniques based on thought. So if you love messing with the world you'll probably push/pull, disqualify yourself, tell her stories based on you tricking or messing with people, etc.

 

[Mr. Wolf]

It comes from yout thought patterns and are sub-communicated by your behavior patterns.

Example
A guy who is thinking "Wow this chick is so hot" will qualify himself, be reactive, won't be confident when it comes time to approach, hesistates, don't want to say anything stupid.

A guy who is thinking "Haha there goes a chick" will go in confident and amuse himself, he'll break rapport, he is unaffected by her responses

Sub-communication is what clearly shows who is good with women and who is not.



You should care...this is what the girl is actually seeing and is her deciding factor as to whether or not she likes who you are. All these tactics and techniques were made with a specific sub-communication in mind.

For Example
- Breaking rapport conveys higher value because higher value people don't need anything from anyone so there more likely to break rapport
- False Time Constraint can convey that your high value, willing to walk away, not needy or reactive (Bad) depending on the thought behind it.

This is same with kinoing, guys are all thinking from a gropy mindset instead of just a fun and playful time. Slapping her ass won't be wierd at all because its pure fun and alpha. Meanwhile coming from a gropy mindset it is done from a position of trying to cop a feel.

Alot of people are mislead when they learn all these tactics and techniques. You could basically write down a set of thought patterns and behavior patterns that conveys the thought and just focus on internalizing it. (I've been doing that for 6 months)

Just doing alone will change who you are and get results. For me personally I get approached 1-2 times a day...and as I proved to myself yesterday even if I have my hair all fuked up and physically look like sh!t, I'll still get opened...because I convey the right things.

All that is really needed is a roadmap of how to pickup and an understanding of female psychology that way you'll know how to actually get the girl instead of wondering when to call, how to open that group, how to isolate, etc.

Majority of people don't look at sub-communication because they are so focused on the tactics and techniques...what's the best way to open, what's the best way to kiss, etc. All of that is irrelevant if you are sub-communicating the right things. That's not to say that tactics and techniques is crappy, not at all.

What I'm saying is implement the tactics and techniques based on thought. So if you love messing with the world you'll probably push/pull, disqualify yourself, tell her stories based on you tricking or messing with people, etc.

I still don't care if woman can really tell.. All I care is me!!! ME!!! ME!!!!! ME!!!! I know that I don't care about if women can really tell.. Who cares? Do you care? I don't care!

Yo.. Hoes.. If you can really tell then you can kiss my a55. :flowers: I can find another broad who's more classy and less b!tchy anytime.

 

[Maxtro]

Based on what I've been noticing in my life I'd agree that the sub-communication is the most important thing in getting girls. Now I just need to figure out how to make it work for me. So the first thing I need to do is control my thought patterns? That seems easier said then done. I don't have a clue where to start.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Based on what I've been noticing in my life I'd agree that the sub-communication is the most important thing in getting girls. Now I just need to figure out how to make it work for me. So the first thing I need to do is control my thought patterns? That seems easier said then done. I don't have a clue where to start.

Well the first step is actually writing what your values and how you want your women. (This is for qualification purpose and to activate your RAS)

The Second step is actually writing out the thought patterns that you want and the behavior patterns that would convey those thoughts to the world.

The Third step is living based off your thought patterns and behavior patterns and internalizing each thought pattern little by little.

My "Natural" Thread is a good example of guys I knew and what thoughts and behavior patterns they had

An example would be the thought "Every chick wants me". As a result I walk in venues with confident and a sort of ****y smirk because I already know everyone wants me but not everyone can have me. I'm real chill and bringing the party with me. When I interact they open right up because I already knew she wanted me. My reality gets strong and stronger because each time I see chicks opening me or in proximity my sub-conscious is basically saying "O god another chick that wants me" I can break rapport, and qualify her into the girl I want.

You get the picture, that is just one thought. I have a good 20-25 that I've been internalizing since 6 months ago. As a result of proactively shaping who I wanted to be and how I want to act and convey myself...I've been able to Assume my own value because I know my personality is fuking MONEY.

How do I know? I fuking built it from the ground up and I'm in love with my masterpiece. So when I roll up to anywhere, looking anyway I still Assume that I'm the sh!t and every chick still wants me. My other thought patterns are being conveyed as I interact with the chick.

Even the reason as to why I want chicks and how I want my chicks to be is apart of me. Qualification is real standards that I give to them to live up to. My lifestyle and why I have that lifestyle is based on my values and what I'm interested in.

I still don't care if woman can really tell.. All I care is me!!! ME!!! ME!!!!! ME!!!! I know that I don't care about if women can really tell.. Who cares? Do you care? I don't care!

Yo.. Hoes.. If you can really tell then you can kiss my a55. :flowers: I can find another broad who's more classy and less b!tchy anytime.

I'm not trying force you to do anything, I'm just saying if you want to consistently get chicks your going to have to know what your sub-communicating. It's better you learn that then just using tactics aimlessly and from the wrong thought. Such as using attract tactics as a way to push a girls buttons, if ANYONE who first tried attract tactics (for instance C&F) and realized the response you get, you start overdoing it and the chick just leaves realizing you were just doing it to get a response. Or the guy who says something and is waiting for the reaction. If he gets it his state goes up if he doesn't his state goes down.

State control is another thing that is very important that comes from your thoughts too but thats another story in itself.

What your doing is taking it to one said. There is the strong frame and the calibration. Your basically stating just have a strong frame and fuk the calibration. But that's like going caveman and not realizing that she is resisting and you end up losing a many chicks.

Same with "I don't give a ****" attitude. Those that mean you'll burn down buildings and go on a mass killing?

That is why its a balance of knowing wtf your doing and being delusional. Honestly that thought is usually coming from people who are frustrated that the chicks aren't all on him because its like "Fuk this if she doesn't get with the program I'm going to the next chick" when really if you had calibrated to the situation you would've got her.

Everything needs a balance, you should be seeing the feedback you get based on what you convey but at the same time never affected by what is happening because your frame is strong. If you can do that then your going to have chicks like crazy because not to many people have both its either one or the other and in your case you have one or atleast only focus on one and thats having a strong frame.

But I'm finished...

lol, I really think you should actually look at yourself from a non-judgmental prespective...

"Less Bitvhy" and "More Classy"

"Less Bitvhy" - The chick is just being a bitvh to you, I can honestly say I haven't had a bad encounter with a chick in a VERY long time, its not in my reality to even have chicks giving me such stuff. An like one guy said there only acting like a bitvh to you, they don't do that to there BF...unless he's AFC lol.

"More Classy" - Come on get serious, what makes a chick classy? I hope it's not what she does sexually, because every chick would do the same stuff a porn star would do.

Seriously look at your self from 3rd person are you just saying those things out of frustration? I could understand if you didn't care about the outcome because there were many chicks to talk to but not caring what you sub-communicate because you can go to the next chick is extreme and won't get good results...but just my .02

 

[Alphamale1821]

wow Snow plowman that post was very insughtful. Some of those things you mentioned hit me good. I'm realizing more and more that i'm too ****y for my own good. I'm looking to improve myself to become the man i know i have the potential to be. I'm going to try those 3 steps and see how it works for me.

 

[guitaronfire411]

Thanks for this post. It really helped me out.

 

[DonJuan11]

Yes.
Absolutely.

However, let's be practial, it is NOT some "superpower" or mystical BS thing.


Here's something every man needs to know.

Women are afraid.
many of them.

They are afraid of you.

I don't agree. There is no way girls are afraid of guys. They can tell us to go to hell without even batting an eye when they don't like us.

Would you tell a 6'5 German bodybuilder to go to Hell if you were afraid of him? Didn't think so.