This is probably my life story. Back when I was hardcore AFC, confused, and all that... I was super quiet and sometimes I would randomly be indifferent due to my low self-esteem. Last year, when I began applying SS, I came out of my shell and tried being out spoken as much as possible. I will say that it felt really unnatural and it was more "random" than it was "outgoing." If those two are even in the same category...Konada said:I was talking to a female friend about another day and she told me I gave off the 'nice guy vibe'.
Are there any cases when your quiet demeanor has given off the wrong vibe you want to portray to others?
I would say this is pretty accurate in regards to body language and all of that. I didn't feel like I was benefiting from being a "big mouth" so I reverted back to my roots and I'm glad I did to be honest. So if women are thinking you're a "nice guy" or anything then it definitely has something to do with the way you carry yourself or interact with others. I don't think it has anything to do with being quiet.PairPlusroyalFlush said:in my opinion if your game is quiet confidence you're relying 100% on looks... Which can be fine it is not like us big mouths don't repulse some women
Just to throw this out there: Are you sure she was insulting you?Konada said:I was talking to a female friend about another day and she told me I gave off the 'nice guy vibe'.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Nah we were have a discussion on social dynamics and it kind of came up when we were talking about vibes people give off. I thought I had shaken the 'nice guy' vibe off but apparently not.zekko said:Just to throw this out there: Are you sure she was insulting you?
At worst, it might have been a challenge to see if you were able to get sexual without getting involved.
What I mean is are you sure she is using the term "nice guy" the same way that the manosphere does? And if you don't want to be considered a nice guy, what do you want people to think of you? I suppose you want people to think you're a jerk.Konada said:Nah we were have a discussion on social dynamics and it kind of came up when we were talking about vibes people give off. I thought I had shaken the 'nice guy' vibe off but apparently not.
Pretty sure since she compared me to other more vocal guys though everyone knows I don't give a shvt about what I say. Of course there are 2 extremes of alpha men, the vocal and the quiet kind. It seems like the more outspoken people would be regarded faster as alphas rather than the quiet ones.zekko said:What I mean is are you sure she is using the term "nice guy" the same way that the manosphere does? And if you don't want to be considered a nice guy, what do you want people to think of you? I suppose you want people to think you're a jerk.
Bro, she's baiting you, trying to get you nervous and to react. You have to turn it around and use it to your advantage instead of finding a solution to her comment.Konada said:I was talking to a female friend about another day and she told me I gave off the 'nice guy vibe'.
Are there any cases when your quiet demeanor has given off the wrong vibe you want to portray to others?
How do you know she is even interested in what an alpha male is? I mean I know a lot of this pickup stuff has become mainstream, but I'm not sure that a typical female would draw a connection between a "nice guy" and "alpha males".Konada said:Pretty sure since she compared me to other more vocal guys though everyone knows I don't give a shvt about what I say. Of course there are 2 extremes of alpha men, the vocal and the quiet kind. It seems like the more outspoken people would be regarded faster as alphas rather than the quiet ones.
I agree, about being called a nice guy in general.zekko said:I mean if a guy on this forum calls you a nice guy, you can pretty well be assured that you have been insulted, to the point of being spit on - you've basically been called a spineless wimp. I'm not so sure that is necessarily the case with women, or people, out in the "real world".
I really dislike the term "nice guy", always have. As you note, what the manosphere means when they use it is that you are a pushover, a supplicator, and a guy who puts women on a pedestal. None of which has ANYTHING to do with the adjective "nice", which really describes a friendly guy who is enjoyable to be around. A guy who might actually give you a ride to the auto parts store instead of telling you to fook off and driving away laughing.Chamber36 said:girls that like nice guys anyway. If they see me as a pushover and therefore don't respect me, they an fvck off, as I don't want to be disrespected nor strung along in any way.
Totally agree... Women just hijacked that word and laced it with a bad stigma. My persona, on the surface is of a nice guy (or what I would call "down to earth")zekko said:I really dislike the term "nice guy", always have. As you note, what the manosphere means when they use it is that you are a pushover, a supplicator, and a guy who puts women on a pedestal. None of which has ANYTHING to do with the adjective "nice", which really describes a friendly guy who is enjoyable to be around. A guy who might actually give you a ride to the auto parts store instead of telling you to fook off and driving away laughing.
PUAs say that women are the ones who started using "nice guy" to describe worthless males, as in "You're a nice guy, BUT....". However, I've heard too many women describe guys they are deeply into as "nice" to believe that. As in "He's sooooo nice".
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
It did when I was younger because for me it gave them "I'm not interested or I don't like them vibe". I agree with the earlier poster that quite confidence by itself is only very successful if you were ridiculouly good looking and most guys don't have that luxury....Konada said:Are there any cases when your quiet demeanor has given off the wrong vibe you want to portray to others?
Actually, I think it was butthurt men that came up with the "nice guy" stigma. Who do you think first said "Nice guys finish last"? It had to be some bitter fvck. Guys got disappointed because the woman they wanted chose some other better looking, more interesting, dude. So they proclaimed that life was unfair because they were NICE, and because they were NICE, that meant the world owed them.KingBeef said:Totally agree... Women just hijacked that word and laced it with a bad stigma.
Well I have been that guy in one point in my life so the term 'nice guy' definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth.zekko said:Actually, I think it was butthurt men that came up with the "nice guy" stigma. Who do you think first said "Nice guys finish last"? It had to be some bitter fvck. Guys got disappointed because the woman they wanted chose some other better looking, more interesting, dude. So they proclaimed that life was unfair because they were NICE, and because they were NICE, that meant the world owed them.
Then PUAs took the term and ran with it. But they said that "nice guys" only did things to help other people because they were expecting something else in return. Which isn't nice at all. So none of it makes any real sense.
Sounds like you give a shyt what this chick says.Konada said:1. Outspoken/Vocal
2. Didn't give a shyt what they say
I have (2) down so I'm guessing the 'nice guy vibe' I gave off would be attributed to my quiet persona.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.