Can Inner Game Backfire?

Nexus Polaris

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Okay, here's the deal. Like a lot of people here, I'm sure, I was an AFC for a very long time. I was wishy washy, acted like a doormat, and made all of my life decisions based on my feelings at the time rather than logic and facts. So consequently, I constantly made a lot of bad decisions.

The upside to this was that I was very passionate. I had things in my life that I thoroughly enjoyed and looked forward to everyday and every once in awhile when I would actually date somebody (though it was rarely anyone I was that into), I would constantly pull out all the stops for them. They became the center of my universe, and it became like a romance novel type experience for them. They loved it.

But during the long periods of time in between girls, I would become horribly depressed and dwell on all my negative thoughts and emotions. I became an obnoxious, whiny little emo bìtch. I lived my entire life based around "feelings."



When a friend of mine from high school who I hadn't seen in years came back into town two years ago (a guy who was a classic carpe diem, adventurous type) and was tragically killed unexpectedly, it got me thinking about a lot of things. What were the things in my life I wasn't happy with that I had been avoiding fixing? And the biggest and most obvious thing was that I wanted to be able to pull the women I was attracted to whenever I wanted them. And then I remembered this place.

Another friend of mine had told me about this place years ago, but I was in a committed relationship at the time, so I didn't think much of it. I never really checked it out. But after all that, it finally seemed like a good idea. So I started reading and posting here, invested in some of David D.'s stuff, discovered Mystery about three months before he blew up and became a household name (and then watched the Pick Up Artist religiously afterward), and just dove head first into this whole pick up community. I dedicated all of 2007 to learning pick up.

At first, it seemed great. When I could actually overcome enough of my anxiety to do anything with all of the knowledge I was learning, it seemed to partially work. Women who previously had not given me the time of day were suddenly paying me attention and giving me phone numbers. Girls who had previously just seen me as a friend were suddenly interested in dating me.

But I noticed a recurring theme. Once I succeeded at snagging their interest, I would constantly stress myself out about what to do next or whether or not I was going to be able to maintain that interest. I still suffered from extreme one-itis with every new girl I met. They were the center of my universe. I blew golden opportunity after golden opportunity because some of these girls would also be talking to other guys, and I was constantly worried about whether or not I could compete with those other guys. I was so worried about what I was supposed to do next that I couldn't just relax and be myself or really even have any fun at all. They weren't even people to me anymore. They were puzzles or math equations to be figured out and solved. It was ridiculous.

My whole world would crumble if one of them would decide to get into a relationship with somebody else. It was pathetic. I was giving every new girl I met a remote control to my emotions.

So I decided to make a new year's resolution for 2008 to take the entire year off from sarging to work on myself. Inner game. Building a solid foundation. Whatever you want to call it. I call it getting my head straight. As it turns out, I wasn't in any place where I needed to be worrying about women anyway. That was the least of my problems. I should have listened to my friends on that one. They were right. I was a head case with a million issues that needed to be fixed before I could contribute positively to anybody else's life. I had to stop basing my self worth on other people's opinions.

So I committed myself to fixing me. Ignoring women and just working on making myself a quality human being. And most importantly, getting control over my overactive emotions. The problem is that this seems to have worked too well.



This is where I get to the point of this post.

On the upside, I now no longer give a shìt what other people think of me. My self worth comes from me. Women are no longer the primary focal point of my life.

On the downside, I am now completely apathetic about damn near everything. I focused so much on not giving a fück that I don't really give much of a fück about anything anymore. Nothing makes me happy now. None of my old hobbies and interests keep me entertained anymore. Nothing new excites me. Even sex is boring to me now. I feel really bad for the girl I've been seeing because I'm just going through the motions. I'm totally not into it. And it has nothing to do with her.

So I guess what I'm asking is did I go too far? And if so, is there a way I can find a happy medium without going back to being uber whiny emo AFC boy again? Because I'd much rather stay where I am and be cold and unfeeling than go back to where I came from. But being this calloused sucks.
 

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I know how you feel.

Find something you enjoy. You obviously know what you DON'T enjoy.

Try different things out. Try surfing, try out boating, skydiving, anything that gets your interest.

And also, watch some comedy. It really helped me.
 

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Nexus Polaris said:
On the downside, I am now completely apathetic about damn near everything. I focused so much on not giving a fück that I don't really give much of a fück about anything anymore. Nothing makes me happy now. None of my old hobbies and interests keep me entertained anymore. Nothing new excites me. Even sex is boring to me now. I feel really bad for the girl I've been seeing because I'm just going through the motions. I'm totally not into it. And it has nothing to do with her.
Even sex is boring to you? Man, I wish I had your problem.

As has been discussed several times before, the problem is you have too many things at your disposal, which is what happens when we live in a capitalistic society and all our wants and needs are fulfilled. We constantly want more and more and more until nothing excites and we get into a state of boredom and don't care about anything. It's only after you lose things you begin to appreciate them.
 

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Youre inner game is still f*cked up. Telling yourself not to give a f*ck about what people think, but that doesnt explain how you dont care about anything. If everything bores you i would say go talk to a psychologist cause that sounds like depression to me. Telling yourself not to care is one thing, but thats not gonna make sex boring. You havent built a solid foundation.
 

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Not caring is just a defensive mechanism if you ask me. I also wouldn't like to use to word "fixing" myself. There is nothing inherintly wrong with you, you're just fine however you are and decide to be, IMO. If there are changes you'd like to make, I consider those just a evolution of shifting process, rather than fixing.

Conversation as a competition. Hundreds of studies have discovered and revealed that men tend to see conversations as a competition whereas women are more see conversation as connection-building. It is no wonder why, how many times have you been talking to a woman and her attraction went through the roof or tumbling down into the grand canyon? One of the major goals of men in the workplace is to avoid being told what to do. Men don't like to be told what to do and men know that conversation affects womens' level of attractedness, so it's no wonder men tend to see conversation as a competition. The flip side if that you don't have to live this way, because you have this knowledge and realize what is going on, you can choose to not be anxiety-striken in the partially unconscious fashion that most men are.

At the end of the day it's easy to get thrown off balance trying to juggle using good social skills, being vunreable and open but not emotionally overreactive, and leading without dictating. No one on earth can balance these things perfectly in every situation. Things are bound to get messy at times. The trials of being a human!
 

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Well the thing is as I have come to understand it is this. The less insecure you become the less emotional you will become. Now this is not all a bad thing. Sure its a lot harder to fall inlove and stuff like that but who cares.

Heres things you need to realize. Your body needs certain chemicals and vitamins. It is proven that people who get some sun are in better moods. You should start taking some multi vitamins and also think about joining a gym.

These type of things are proven to put you in a better mood. I know exactly what your talking about buddy and just atleast try buying a multi vitamin. It will be about 30 bucks for about a month. Thats not a big deal.
 

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IamtheAlphamale said:
Well the thing is as I have come to understand it is this. The less insecure you become the less emotional you will become. Now this is not all a bad thing. Sure its a lot harder to fall inlove and stuff like that but who cares.
This is the most bullsh*t ive ever seen on this site. Care to quote any sources? Cause im pretty sure you pulled that out your ass. How emotional you are is an aspect of your personality and life events. Ive become less insecure but i KNOW i havent become less emotional that i was, definatly moreso.
 

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Being secure is NOT about blocking out everyone else's thoughts and all emotions. It is about blocking out NEGATIVE thoughts. You have NOT gained control over your emotions, you have killed them altogether. You should be embracing people's happiness and your own passion. I realize this is easier said than done for you at this point.

Having great inner game is not about not giving a shi*t about anything. People who don't care about anything end up being complete failures.

What you are noticing in life is a lack of desire, drive and passion. The problem is that before, you placed this desire, drive, and passion on WOMEN. Realizing the problem, you killed them completely, rather than moving them to your friends, goals, and passions. Once you find comfort in these areas, you can move to actually enjoying the presence of women without being enslaved.

Good Luck
 

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I'm going to go ahead and say you have no inner game.

"Caring about people's opinions of you" are issues of lack of self-worth, self-respect, self-judgement, etc

What you have done is not solved your problems, you have repressed them. I recommend you go into your head and think of all the bad times asap. and let yourself feel those emotions fully first and foremost, or they will continue to get worse and worse to the point every day you wake up look at the ceiling and want to kill yourself more and more.

"Inner Game" just means making yourself happy. That is the core. Sure it also means no more self-pity etc., those are all things that make you happier. Thus if you are not feeling happier you have no inner game and are tricking yourself,
 

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Your Inner 'Game' is not where it should be.
Even though you appear not to care, you do...however, you now go to the extreme to prove it to yourself , since before you used to care too much, now, to protect yourself, you go to the other extreme.
Its a defense mechanism.
So you are still living in fear, because you are still trying to 'protect' yourself.
Since before you had very poor personal boundaries, and didnt know how to manage your resources, now, you are aware of your resources but are not handling them with Abundance mentality.
You need to understand that it is ok to feel emotions.
And to care about yourself and others. Even for those people whom you dont particularly like.
what you dont need is their approval or acceptance.
That is for them to decide, not you.
So to protect yourself from feeling rejection you have disconnected yourself emotionally, thus not attaching yourself to anyone or anything out of fear that you will be taken advantage of or abused, or rejected.


Let go of the fear, and embrace who you are. Accept and love yourself.
Be patient and tolerant of yourself.
This will teach you that other people are just as human and fallible as you and everyone else.
Thus, no need to place people above you and need their approval of you to make you feel good about yourself.

Inner game can never backfire.
The only thing that can backfire is when your ignorance and/or misinterpretations make you believe errouneously and behave incorrectly.
Sometimes our perceptions are like drving a car. When we first start we may be too conservative and drive too slow and make slow turns and not be able to drive in a straight line, thus, bumping into the mediaans, and barriers, asidewalks, etc...
so bascially, we're all over the place....

But once our perception is fully understood and in alignment with your highest self, then you alwasy drive in a straight line, and never bump into anything unconsciously. YOu are in control.
And even then, sometimes being in control means letting a force higher than yourself guide you to where you NEED to go, even if you're afraid of it..

Its ok to love someone.
Its ok to be vulnerable.
Its ok to be attracted to hot women.
Its ok to want to have sex with women.
Its ok to be desired by women.
Its ok to want to feel wanted by a woman.
Its ok to not feel too masculine, and want to know why, and do soemthing about it.
Its ok when you dont feel happy about yourself, but are taking steps to change the perspective.
its ok to not have all the answers.
Its ok to be where you are at, right now, but still move ahead with conviction and love in your heart and a desire to live a happy, fulfilling, purposeful, and meaningful life...
 

Nexus Polaris

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Thank you guys for all of your feedback. There were definitely some things pointed out here I hadn't thought about.

I think WalkingStick and Interceptor hit the nail on the head.

I have been focusing on the wrong thing in terms of embracing apathy rather than confidence. And I'm pretty convinced that's been the primary factor in my lack of interest in life because recently, I've been getting back into some things I had stayed away from for quite some time for fear of their negative influence, and I suddenly find myself enjoying them again.

You get out of life what you put in. It's time to start putting more in again.
 

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