Can anyone give a chronology of their recovery from BORDERLINE girls?

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I am still struggling from this.

Is it just a case of time, in the end?

I am fully educated on the disorder, I know how my own childhood played into it, I have "done the work" so to speak

but the scar tissue is still raw, I am tired of it and I want it gone.

Anyone who went through this and came out the other side, can you please give your recovery timeline so i know what to expect?
 

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Also interested.

I'm almost 4 months out (3 years together). She broke up with me. No contact helps but it doesn't seem to be getting much easier yet. I still feel massive regrets about being complacent with her, which caused her to end things. She displayed cluster B traits during the early stages of the relationship.

Hopefully it's just time that will help.
 

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Met Girl A (BPD) 11/5/10.
Spent the night together 12/1/10.
Had sex with Girl A 12/31/10.
Broke up 4/15/11. I was inspired to get in better shape.
Had sex with Girl B 7/4/11.
Had 4 month relationship with Girl B and broke her heart in a near mirror of the previous relationship.
Had sex with Girl C 10/11/11.
Had sex with Girl D 10/28/11.
Realized I was thinking about Girl D (age 20) and not Girl A (age 36) in December 2011 - 8 months later.
Last date with Girl D was 6/27/14 (2.5 years).
 

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Why is this a reoccuring problem on this board?
 

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I am still struggling from this.

Is it just a case of time, in the end?

I am fully educated on the disorder, I know how my own childhood played into it, I have "done the work" so to speak

but the scar tissue is still raw, I am tired of it and I want it gone.

Anyone who went through this and came out the other side, can you please give your recovery timeline so i know what to expect?
Stop expecting and make your own timeline. Searching reassurance will not solve your problems.

It's a matter of time but not if you do nothing. If you had "done the work" your wouldn't be suffering anymore.
You still suffer because you still have to learn.
 

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About two months of constant meditation & exercise while we still lived together (hellish time--saw enough to dispel any illusions of ever getting back together). Read everything I could find on BPD. Tremendously painful--ego totally wrecked, a lot of core pain to work through. Forgave myself & my family & my ex & the disorder--let go of a lot of things.

Another month of reconnecting with friends, family, talking to girls (I'd been trained not to even look at other girls--was like learning from scratch). Found Sosuave. Read Pook and The Rational Male--hugely helpful. Still missed her from time to time; the good times began to become distortedly prominent in my memory. Some unsatisfactory rebounds. Began really focusing on future plans that my ex would've been a hindrance to.

At around 3 1/2 months, slept with a girl who was hotter than my ex and a better lay. Had an awesome fling--cool girl. Was spinning other plates. Pretty much recovered after that.

In the 3 months since I've been pushing myself hard to cold approach hard. Huge potential for self growth. The right song late at night still puts me in my feelings; but it's gotten really rare.

In the end, I think you really have to want to detach. You have to outgrow the type of person who'd ever get involved with your ex in the first place. You have to push your comfort zones. If you're always moving forward you don't have time to look back. No contact is a must.
 

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About two months of constant meditation & exercise while we still lived together (hellish time--saw enough to dispel any illusions of ever getting back together). Read everything I could find on BPD. Tremendously painful--ego totally wrecked, a lot of core pain to work through. Forgave myself & my family & my ex & the disorder--let go of a lot of things.

Another month of reconnecting with friends, family, talking to girls (I'd been trained not to even look at other girls--was like learning from scratch). Found Sosuave. Read Pook and The Rational Male--hugely helpful. Still missed her from time to time; the good times began to become distortedly prominent in my memory. Some unsatisfactory rebounds. Began really focusing on future plans that my ex would've been a hindrance to.

At around 3 1/2 months, slept with a girl who was hotter than my ex and a better lay. Had an awesome fling--cool girl. Was spinning other plates. Pretty much recovered after that.

In the 3 months since I've been pushing myself hard to cold approach hard. Huge potential for self growth. The right song late at night still puts me in my feelings; but it's gotten really rare.

In the end, I think you really have to want to detach. You have to outgrow the type of person who'd ever get involved with your ex in the first place. You have to push your comfort zones. If you're always moving forward you don't have time to look back. No contact is a must.
Thanks that was the most useful.
 

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You asked for a Chronology. Sorry if the reality is you need to go f*ck 3 other women.
 

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You asked for a Chronology. Sorry if the reality is you need to go f*ck 3 other women.
Nah it's cool, so for you it was 8 months.

I have had sex with (2) other women in the 4 months since my final breakup but neither of them were that amazing

I think the answer is you'll always look back until someone "better"
 

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Nah it's cool, so for you it was 8 months.

I have had sex with (2) other women in the 4 months since my final breakup but neither of them were that amazing

I think the answer is you'll always look back until someone "better"
Probably this. I was 100% sure that I'd never have a better sexual experience than my borderline ex. But the other girl I mentioned blew her away and is a cool person to boot.

But beyond sex, I think it's important to interact with as many women as possible. There were a lot of girls that helped me along on my recovery--some platonic, some old hook ups, some randos I'd meet while I was out. Your reference points about how interactions with women are supposed to look are all ****ed up after enough exposure to BPD. Chances are your self-concept is all ****ed up. It took me a lot of effort to reconnect with the person I was before that relationship, and then to assemble the painful lessons I learned into a newer, better, more complete version of myself--what Rollo Tomassi means by 'being your own mental point of origin.' I can dig up some stuff I've written here about meditation if you want--can't stress how important that is toward building your personality.
 

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Probably this. I was 100% sure that I'd never have a better sexual experience than my borderline ex. But the other girl I mentioned blew her away and is a cool person to boot.

But beyond sex, I think it's important to interact with as many women as possible. There were a lot of girls that helped me along on my recovery--some platonic, some old hook ups, some randos I'd meet while I was out. Your reference points about how interactions with women are supposed to look are all ****ed up after enough exposure to BPD. Chances are your self-concept is all ****ed up. It took me a lot of effort to reconnect with the person I was before that relationship, and then to assemble the painful lessons I learned into a newer, better, more complete version of myself--what Rollo Tomassi means by 'being your own mental point of origin.' I can dig up some stuff I've written here about meditation if you want--can't stress how important that is toward building your personality.
Yeah i think the main problem i got right now is my confidence took an absoloute torpedo. The guy I was replaced for and another guy i found out she cheated on me with, both were real bottom of the barrel type of guys, and my male brain just thinks "well, i'm better than them, so why would she do that, unless.... i'm.... not ....better than them?"

Logically I know that isn't true but it's hard to shake, and I have mostly been picking the low hanging fruit to try and build up my confidence. I am getting there slowly, gym and looking after my body and mind is something that i forgot about through the two and a half years of living with her madness, so i'm kind of repairing the damage.
 

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LOL... I make borderline women have to recover from me... I love borderline girls. They are so emotional, yet so hilarious. You just have to learn to not give into them, and deal with their outbursts. They do fvck like animals though. They can be a bit hard to get rid of though, they tend to persist even if you straight up abuse them, their fear of abandonment and all.
 

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Yeah i think the main problem i got right now is my confidence took an absoloute torpedo. The guy I was replaced for and another guy i found out she cheated on me with, both were real bottom of the barrel type of guys, and my male brain just thinks "well, i'm better than them, so why would she do that, unless.... i'm.... not ....better than them?"

Logically I know that isn't true but it's hard to shake, and I have mostly been picking the low hanging fruit to try and build up my confidence. I am getting there slowly, gym and looking after my body and mind is something that i forgot about through the two and a half years of living with her madness, so i'm kind of repairing the damage.
Bro, totally get where you're coming from. But you're letting one woman out of 4 billion determine your self-worth relative to other men. I know you know it's not rational--but you invested your ego in the opinions of this broad (which is easy to do when she thinks you're the greatest thing since sliced bread (idealization phase)). But think about that for a moment. And not just one woman--an emotionally disordered one. Come on, dude.

But let's take things a step further: What are the type of things that women value (talking on a macro level--obviously there are women who are more discriminate)? Purses, 50 Shade of Grey, cliched television dramas, shoes, etc. Are any of those things any inherently more valuable just because women like them? Is 50 Shade of Grey a better book than The Great Gatsby (it's sold 5x more copies in 4 years than TGG has in the past 80 years)?

**** that lol. You define your own value. That might sound new-agey or overly-optimistic, but it's the truth. Most people will accept you at your own valuation of yourself--they don't have time to dig deeper and form their own opinions. To be high value all you really have to do is decide that you're high value--if you really believe that, it'll manifest itself through your behavior; some guys might see past it or resent you for it, but most women won't; and from there is just snowballs. A couple women think you're high value because you believe you're high value; a couple dozen more think you're high value because those women think you're high value; men begin to think you're high value since a couple dozen women have appraised you as such, so on and so forth. Once you realize the extent of the game you won't give a damn if any one person doesn't appreciate you--because only a handful of people in your life will ever appreciate you for who you are and chances are, none of those will be women you're romantically involved with.
 

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Nooooo not this shìt again. A chronology? Bro really? It absolutely baffles... no astounds me how weak modern men are now.

This is your big problem? You need a timeline on when to recover? You didn't have a disease dude, Jesus Christ.
 

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Nooooo not this shìt again. A chronology? Bro really? It absolutely baffles... no astounds me how weak modern men are now.

This is your big problem? You need a timeline on when to recover? You didn't have a disease dude, Jesus Christ.
Yeah well unfortunately I grew up with an abusive single mother who didn't teach me ****.

If you had a good upbringing with a good father figure or even if you didn't and still ended up OK, more power to you.

I'm learning from scratch and repairing a lot of damage and no, the world ain't too understanding but I'm doing my best.

If you don't want to help don't post on this sort of thread
 
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