Bulking up- face affected?

[Gaffspan]

Hi,

Just an observation: the face of a guy who works out is very different to the weakling who doesn't. It is far more masculine, and generally better looking. I'm not metrosexual or anything, but I know a good looking guy when I see one.

Is this because people with more masculine features tend to be the ones who work out or are naturally more muscular? Or does building muscle affect the look of someone's face?

Just curious. I'm always open to looking more macho

 

[NewDude001]

Extremely stupid post, and has been covered before. Metrosexual does NOT mean gay, look it up.

Weightlifting does NOTHING to your face, cardio cuts the face up and gives you a better jaw line. Exercise in general can't affect the face beyond improving circulation. The reason you see buff good looking guys is because they hit the gym and do cardio, they are cut up and look good because of it. Note: exercise actually lowers testosterone levels overall, common misconception.

 

[flippinfreak]

... doy doy doy

Weightlifting increases your metabolism(as does cardio). Lower your body's desire to naturally store fat by eating less more often... Note: extended cardio lowers testosterone overall, common misconception that this also applies to low repitition weightlifting.

 

[NewDude001]

nah, ANY form of exercise, weightlifting included has been shown to lower testosterone levels after about an hour or 2. I know that running for more than 45 minutes is NOT recommended, I don't quite know how weightlifting affects testosterone levels though.

I'm willing to bet running 45 minutes = spending 45 minutes in the gym lifting as far as that goes. But with lifting there's the hormones that go into muscle repair, so I'm guessing more hormones are depleted over the course of the day when compared to cardio. Just a hunch though.

 

[Gaffspan]

Not such a stupid post. Sorry if it's been covered before, the search found nothing. And I know metrosexual doesn't mean gay... just a little humour.

Anyway, I didn't know exercise lowers testosterone. Interesting. NewDude, what do you mean by 'cut up'?

Thanks for the ideas

 

[flippinfreak]

Sodon't go off talking about common misconceptions, if you don't know the preconceptions, nor the established perceptions.

45 minutes of running does some weird stuff to your system, very weird, too much for me to even talk about. All I can say is, if you've ever watched a marathon race, the winners are scraggly and nasty, the females are just plain scary. Yes, I saw your thread talking about cardio in trained athletes versus untrained athletes and the effects on testosterone levels.

45 minutes of weightlifting, is COMPLETELY dependant on the stress placed on the body. From joints, to testes, to cardiovascular, and hypothalamus. It's all interconnected, a surge in energy requirements stimulates hormonal production, it goes through your pituitary, into your gonads, to signal production. To stress the production, weightlifters induce anaerobic status, which stimulates the receptors in the hypothalamus to signal the slow of ATP production and to oxygenate the bloodstream and synthesize lactic acid in the liver. The hyperstimulated hypothalamus also sends out hormones to the pituitary and thyroid glands to stabilize metabolism, blood circulation, and to produce IGH and HGH to aid in muscle growth. The hormones produced include testosterone.

 

[NewDude001]

Everything in moderation. Aerobic exercise is good, just don't overdo it. Marathon runners average something like 5% body fat, which is why they look like sh&t.

Most I ever go for is 3 miles, high intensity = 20 minutes

In reply to what "cut up" means. Cut up = low body fat levels
Someone that's "cut up" is going show jaw structure etc

 

[flippinfreak]

I'd rather keep my muscular jaw structure, than a "cut up" jaw structure...

At 7%BF, losing 2% more wouldn't make me look like one of those chicken legged marathon runners. I'm amazed they can even get a good start, or do they lose like 30 pounds while they're running?

 

[NewDude001]

Heh, I have no idea. But I did cross country and distance track, NEVER lifted and still managed to end up 5'8'' 145 at 8% bf.

It's mostly genetics really, I get bigger as I age (17 right now) it seems. I was never really suited for distance running but w/e it's what I'm pretty good at now. I run along side guys that look like twigs, natural selection, and I'm the exception

 

[[S]alvatore]

Facial structure (jawline, cheek bones etc) are affected by a few things:
-Genetics
-Bodyfat levels
-Use of AAS or HGH (Although it's due more to prolonged and/or higher dosages)

 

[Docs]

alvatore, do you play GTA?

 

[shydude]

alvatore, do you play GTA?

LOL, I killed salvatore in GTA!! Fell bad for the guy, i think i did? WAs he my boss?? Enemy?? whatever, i beat the game 4 months ago, i quit playing video games !!

 

[Docs]

Haha, I hacked the game. I have the Land...something? SUV that acclerates faster then a Dodge Viper, so I rammed the living **** out of his car and the Mafia car. Bastard had a M16 though, that was a little 'uhhh', but I'm such a good driver that I park on the sidewalk

Yeah, I couldn't beat him normally -_-.

 

[Adone]

The reason you see buff good looking guys is because they hit the gym and do cardio, they are cut up and look good because of it.

What about marathon runners and other skinny people? Why do their face look far less masculine than most bodybuilders'?

P.S.: I'm not saying that lifting changes your facial features, I'm just explaining what the OP was asking.

 

[NewDude001]

Marathon runners are good because they're twigs, bigger guys simply can't compete with them. Their genetics are a perfect fit for running, they were NEVER meant to produce lots of testosterone and get muscle.

Basically comes down to

Best Runners = Those people that are genetically skinny

Best Sprinters = Those that are genetically more muscular, and able to build muscle

Running doesn't make you a puny twig, just the puny twigs happen to be the best at running

 

[flippinfreak]

It's not always genetics NewDude... your body is best at doing, what it always does.

Best long distance Runners = Those people that train to be a better runner(size/power~aerobic capacity)

Best Sprinter = Those people that train to be better sprinters(Size/Power~anaerobic capacity)

I used to be able to walk a five minute mile, lifting my legs about 40% of full power with a steady pace using my arms as the primary means of transferring weight. I relied on anaerobic long fast twitch muscles.

To condition my body into a marathon runner, I would have to convert my muscles into aerobic short fast twitch, (about 1/9 the size of anaerobic long fast twitch). It would take a lot of training, constant and long arduous endurance runs for hours and hours training my body to rely on a steady stream of nutrients...

Marathon runners sometimes lose up to 30 pounds in a race... so I've learned, so that's why they look scraggly in the end. It is pure endurance, and a 10K endurance run would begin to burn muscle to provide me energy...

Genetics surprisingly has created a remarkably undiverse mixing pot among "white people". Most marathon and sprinter champions are of african decent. On the record though, it was a white dude that first broke the 4 minute mile, he trained long and hard, and applied as much of the new physiology as he could to reach his goal. ("they" thought it was impossible)

 

[shydude]

It's not always genetics NewDude... your body is best at doing, what it always does.

Best long distance Runners = Those people that train to be a better runner(size/power~aerobic capacity)

Best Sprinter = Those people that train to be better sprinters(Size/Power~anaerobic capacity)

I used to be able to walk a five minute mile, lifting my legs about 40% of full power with a steady pace using my arms as the primary means of transferring weight. I relied on anaerobic long fast twitch muscles.

To condition my body into a marathon runner, I would have to convert my muscles into aerobic short fast twitch, (about 1/9 the size of anaerobic long fast twitch). It would take a lot of training, constant and long arduous endurance runs for hours and hours training my body to rely on a steady stream of nutrients...

Marathon runners sometimes lose up to 30 pounds in a race... so I've learned, so that's why they look scraggly in the end. It is pure endurance, and a 10K endurance run would begin to burn muscle to provide me energy...

Genetics surprisingly has created a remarkably undiverse mixing pot among "white people". Most marathon and sprinter champions are of african decent. On the record though, it was a white dude that first broke the 4 minute mile, he trained long and hard, and applied as much of the new physiology as he could to reach his goal. ("they" thought it was impossible)

WOHOO!! Give up for FLIPPINFREAK!!!!! Awsome post!!! PROPS:woo: :rock: :box:

 

[Lifeforce]

It's because you have alot of muscles in your face and if you train right all your muscles will grow including the face muscles.

I noticed my face became different when I worked out and it was not due to lower BF, it was due to bigger muscles in the face.

 

[Adone]

It's because you have alot of muscles in your face and if you train right all your muscles will grow including the face muscles.

I noticed my face became different when I worked out and it was not due to lower BF, it was due to bigger muscles in the face.

I had never thought about this, but it looks like you're dead on right. Have you read it somewhere or is it an idea of yours?

 

[Jariel]

It's because you have alot of muscles in your face and if you train right all your muscles will grow including the face muscles.

I noticed my face became different when I worked out and it was not due to lower BF, it was due to bigger muscles in the face.

This is absolutely true. Same thing happened to me. Your protein and general bulking diet from weight lifting will enhance your facial muscles just like any other muscles in your body. You can even work your jaw muscles by clenching your teeth together to develop more definition and a squarer jaw.