Big wh0res come in small packages

[b305d]

There's this story posted on mindandmuscle by a guy that goes by the username, FunkOdyssey.

I read it years ago and it made a big impression.

His story mirrors my own except, I didn't let it progress to that point.

I made the tough decision of being cynical and paranoid instead of giving love a chance. But as always, we humans tend to regret our decision and romanticize the past and future.

So I went back and read that story again and it made me felt a lot better.
For some reason, these horror stories always have that effect.

Maybe I'm just looking for reasons to justify my decision.

Here it is.

"FunkOdyssey 04:41 PM May 13th, 2010
A couple people expressed interest in hearing this story so here we go.

I met Olga when she had just turned 18 and I had just turned 25. I met her on hotornot.com of all places, which is a site I was using to meet hookups. I had no illusions of finding relationship material in a place like that. She was a 5'0" tall 97lb Belarussian nympho with exotic features, long dark hair, darkly tanned skin (her family originated from southwestern Russia so there was probably middle-eastern mixing) and the most perfect ass. The hottest girl I'd ever had.

We started hanging out/hooking up and after a couple weeks she says, "I think you should be my boyfriend." Now, I had also been seeing a 26 year old actuary, who really had her **** together, and was cute but not spectacular like Olga. I was forced to make a decision between them and I went with Olga on the basis of looks and awesome sexual chemistry. She was also perpetually happy, almost hypo-manic, and silly in a way that I found endearing. We were having alot of fun together.

I still did not think there was any chance of things getting serious because she was simply too young. That changed on this magical evening when we went on vacation and took MDMA at a rented house at Lake Winnipesaukee, NH. She went on and on about how she wanted to be a huge and important part of my life, just wanted to make me happy, wanted us to have a future together, etc. I bought it and started falling for her.

However, I was still in control of the relationship initially and was the less interested party. At one point several months into it, her ex-bf was still calling her (I would find out why years later) and she was not inclined to change her phone # to stop it. I threatened to leave her and she immediately had a severe panic attack on the spot, that is how attached she was. Changed her # immediately.

She was spending all her free time with me, coming to visit me while I worked, coming to my house before I got home from work to cook my dinner, writing me love notes, doing my laundry, doing all kinds of crazy sexual stuff. Basically pulling out all the stops. Around a year in, she moved in with me. Things got even better. We never fought and seemed to be hopelessly in love. Everyone was envious of us.

Around 18 months in, I asked her to marry me. She was young, only 19 1/2 years old, but seemingly perfect. Lots of fun, super hot, domestically inclined, very loyal (I thought), and completely in love with me. It was the easiest decision in the world to lock that down. Of course she said yes, and we entered a new higher than high, high in our relationship.

Our engagement lasted 2 years. After she turned 21, things began to change. The passion was definitely cooling off after 3 years and having lived together for 2. And she was wanting to go out to bars and clubs without me far too often for my taste. We began to fight over that a bit, and reached an uneasy compromise of limiting her solo bar and club-hopping "girls nights" to once every week or two. She was constantly pushing the envelope of what I'd allow her to do though, to maximize her time out partying. I chalked this up to a phase of "just turned 21 novelty" that would pass.

Around 2 years after our engagement she decided it was time to get married, right now. She planned a wedding in 11 days. She immersed herself in the details of it 24 hour a day for that period and somehow made it all happen in that timeframe. We were married on Feb 14th, Valentine's Day 2009.

 

[b305d]

Part 2
"My first serious red flag popped up just a month later. She had gone to volunteer at Mission of Mercy, where they give free dental care to poor folks (she's a dental assistant), and met a bunch of dentists there. One of them invited her and a friend to go out for a ride on his boat. She made it sound like an innocent platonic thing, but I caught part of an online conversation between them which was clearly flirtatious, at least on his part, and she was telling him about her availability for this boat trip despite the fact that I said I didn't want her to go.

I confronted her about it, and she reluctantly agreed not to go on this guy's boat or to talk to him anymore, admitting that maybe he was interested in her, "but all guys are, you know I can't help that. What am I supposed to do, never make any guy friends just because they find me attractive?" No panic attacks this time. I was definitely losing leverage on her by this point.

She started going out even more despite my protests and the friction it was causing between us. A trainer at her gym wanted her to join him for jogging sessions, outside the gym. She said she'd like to be friends with him. I said no, and she said fine, I won't if it bothers you.

A few months later, I found out she was spending time with this guy behind my back. Confronted her about it and this time she says, "I'm not sure if I'm ready to be married." Woah, WTF? I was totally ****ed up by that statement. She retracted it just an hour later, saying she just freaked out under the stress of the confrontation and didn't mean it. But it was clear that she was now in control, the less interested party, willing to risk our marriage to hang out with guys from the gym behind my back.

That guy moved away to Colorado. Things seemed to be fine for awhile. Then another trainer from her gym started texting her at inappropriate times (like 1am in the morning). WTF does your trainer need to talk to you about at 1am I asked? "He's just a cool guy and we talk about random things, he sends me funny pics. Don't worry he's almost 40 years old, he's like a fun uncle or something." I'd never be able to verify that since her texts were always conveniently deleted from the phone.

In January, she went to a dental convention in Boston for the weekend. She came back with a story about how a guy at the bar asked her to go to Costa Rica with him. How strange, a guy you talked to for just a few minutes inviting you on a vacation? Totally implausible. My suspicion was running high. I asked her about it again when she was drunk and she let slip that they exchanged email addresses.

Now I was crazy suspicious, to the point I put a keylogger on my machine and got into her email. The first email from him was harmless and corroborated her story. "hey, had a nice time chatting with you at the bar that night. We were really intellectually in sync (they were both atheists and talked about atheism apparently). My vacation was alot of fun, hope to chat again sometime."

Her response, "yeah, and our bodies were in sync too.

". Uh oh. Maybe they just danced or something? A part of me still had hope (a hopelessly irrational part that refused to see the writing on the wall).

His reply though, could leave no doubt: "Yeah definitely. Your body does the most amazing things during sex. mmm, I thought about you while I laid in bed every night on my trip." Its impossible to describe what I felt at that moment reading that but I know many of you have been there.

I confronted her about it, expecting her to come up with stories explaining it away and beg for forgiveness. Instead, she says "I guess its time for us to get divorced." I broke down and cried for like an hour straight. It was one of, if not the, most pathetic moment of my life. She ended up feeling so sorry for me that she changed her tune and suggested we go to marriage counseling. Like a complete and utter fool, I actually began to consider that possibility.

That was when an angel intervened on my behalf. And by angel I mean her partner-in-crime Ashley, her girlfriend who was always present for these "girls nights". She contacted me privately and told me, "do NOT give her another chance. You need to know something. She's been cheating on you from the very beginning of the relationship, with one guy after another, all these years. I can't remember all their names but its definitely more than 10 guys at this point, maybe 15 in total."

My mind was blown. What kind of pathological Tiger Woods-esque little *** dumpster did I devote my life to here? How did she get away with this for so long? How did she manage to convince me she was a good person and not a soulless evil ***** all this time? Why did she act like she was in love with me while ****ing other guys? Why did she get engaged to me while ****ing other guys? Why did she MARRY ME while ****ing other guys?

All the details came out. She had kept seeing her ex-bf before me for the first 8 months of the relationship. She went on a trip to Florida right after our engagement, during the happiest time of our relationship, and ****ed a guy she met down there. Told me she was going to her friend's in Worcester for the weekend, stayed at a guy's house that weekend. Said she was taking shrooms with a girlfriend, actually spent the day with a guy from the gym. Used hanging out with Ashley as an alibi many times when she was out being a *****. She met alot of guys at bars, alot from the gym, and was probably also ****ing her chiropractor. Alot of her gym sessions ran 2-3 hours long. Probably ****ing them in their cars, who knows.

I had spent almost five years with Olga and had no idea who she really was. She fooled me, and everyone in my family. My family was equally awestruck by the news. She seemed like the sweetest girl ever.

Armed with this new information, I finally grew some balls. I was filled with anger and hatred for this girl now, there wasn't an ounce of love left. The person I loved never actually existed; it was all an illusion. I looked at her and saw the real Olga for the first time: a vile, filthy, selfish, manipulative, deceitful, ugly person. She had to be, to do this to me when I was so very good to her. I could not have been a better boyfriend, fiance or husband. She admitted as much.

I moved out that weekend (late February, just after our one year anniversary). We haven't talked since, except in text messages. Initially, I blasted her almost daily with the meanest **** I could think of to say. Then I realized this was not doing me any good, and was just causing me to dwell on her when she didn't deserve a moment of thought. So I stopped communicating with her entirely except for a couple things related to the divorce. I have a court date in early September that should finalize it. She at least had the good sense not to attempt to take any of my ****.

I'm sort of in limbo now, not sure what I want to do in alot of areas of my life. I'm staying with my parents temporarily which makes dating very difficult. I did recently get my first BJ in five years from a girl that wasn't my wife, which I thought was an important milestone. So all is not doom and gloom. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pretty lonely much of the time or that this adjustment hasn't been difficult.

I do go out with friends every weekend and I've been able to reconnect with alot of people I stopped hanging out with. I'm getting contacts and some new clothes. My game is rusty as hell but I'll be back soon enough.

That's where I'm at right now."

 

[Mike32ct]

Now, I had also been seeing a 26 year old actuary, who really had her **** together, and was cute but not spectacular like Olga. I was forced to make a decision between them and I went with Olga on the basis of looks and awesome sexual chemistry.

Mistake #1.

Better close the watertight doors and man the lifeboats. This ship is going down. Don't need to read the rest of the story.

 

[TheException]

Mistake #1.

Better close the watertight doors and man the lifeboats. This ship is going down. Don't need to read the rest of the story.

Good thing you stopped reading.....there about 100 more mistakes.

This story is better served to talk about how pathetic men can be rather than how sh1tty women can be. This is EXACTLY HOW NOT TO ACT. Couldnt tell ya how many times I had to shake my head. Poor lad. I hope he found "game".

 

[Married Buried]

There are more chics like Olga out there than you realize. I dated at least one of them, and I too got into her email and found emails from guys she was f/cking. At least 3 emails I saw from different guys, it confirmed what I suspected. I didn't even look farther than those 3 emails, there were probably more. I told her what I did immediately which was dumb, she said she was going to report it to the cops, but nothing ever happened.

 

[ositosucio]

dude, this is EXACTLY my life story.

My ex wife was Belarusian too!!!! We were married for 7 years!!!

The only difference between you and me is that for the last few years I cheated on her like with 20 girls when I started seeing were shady.

Same **** you describe, girls nights out, etc, etc....

I found out she was doing her boss and other older guys. I divorced immediately with the satisfaction of knowing I probably ****ed her more than
she ****ed me.

Have to say that , like in your case, she didnt take **** from the divorce.

Pretty nobel!
My guess is she knew all the rich AFC ****ers she had lined up.

Russians...:crazy:

PS: just realized this is not your story...but your is similar.

Would love to hear it!

There's this story posted on mindandmuscle by a guy that goes by the username, FunkOdyssey.

I read it years ago and it made a big impression.

His story mirrors my own except, I didn't let it progress to that point.

I made the tough decision of being cynical and paranoid instead of giving love a chance. But as always, we humans tend to regret our decision and romanticize the past and future.

So I went back and read that story again and it made me felt a lot better.
For some reason, these horror stories always have that effect.

Maybe I'm just looking for reasons to justify my decision.

Here it is.

"FunkOdyssey 04:41 PM May 13th, 2010
A couple people expressed interest in hearing this story so here we go.

I met Olga when she had just turned 18 and I had just turned 25. I met her on hotornot.com of all places, which is a site I was using to meet hookups. I had no illusions of finding relationship material in a place like that. She was a 5'0" tall 97lb Belarussian nympho with exotic features, long dark hair, darkly tanned skin (her family originated from southwestern Russia so there was probably middle-eastern mixing) and the most perfect ass. The hottest girl I'd ever had.

We started hanging out/hooking up and after a couple weeks she says, "I think you should be my boyfriend." Now, I had also been seeing a 26 year old actuary, who really had her **** together, and was cute but not spectacular like Olga. I was forced to make a decision between them and I went with Olga on the basis of looks and awesome sexual chemistry. She was also perpetually happy, almost hypo-manic, and silly in a way that I found endearing. We were having alot of fun together.

I still did not think there was any chance of things getting serious because she was simply too young. That changed on this magical evening when we went on vacation and took MDMA at a rented house at Lake Winnipesaukee, NH. She went on and on about how she wanted to be a huge and important part of my life, just wanted to make me happy, wanted us to have a future together, etc. I bought it and started falling for her.

However, I was still in control of the relationship initially and was the less interested party. At one point several months into it, her ex-bf was still calling her (I would find out why years later) and she was not inclined to change her phone # to stop it. I threatened to leave her and she immediately had a severe panic attack on the spot, that is how attached she was. Changed her # immediately.

She was spending all her free time with me, coming to visit me while I worked, coming to my house before I got home from work to cook my dinner, writing me love notes, doing my laundry, doing all kinds of crazy sexual stuff. Basically pulling out all the stops. Around a year in, she moved in with me. Things got even better. We never fought and seemed to be hopelessly in love. Everyone was envious of us.

Around 18 months in, I asked her to marry me. She was young, only 19 1/2 years old, but seemingly perfect. Lots of fun, super hot, domestically inclined, very loyal (I thought), and completely in love with me. It was the easiest decision in the world to lock that down. Of course she said yes, and we entered a new higher than high, high in our relationship.

Our engagement lasted 2 years. After she turned 21, things began to change. The passion was definitely cooling off after 3 years and having lived together for 2. And she was wanting to go out to bars and clubs without me far too often for my taste. We began to fight over that a bit, and reached an uneasy compromise of limiting her solo bar and club-hopping "girls nights" to once every week or two. She was constantly pushing the envelope of what I'd allow her to do though, to maximize her time out partying. I chalked this up to a phase of "just turned 21 novelty" that would pass.

Around 2 years after our engagement she decided it was time to get married, right now. She planned a wedding in 11 days. She immersed herself in the details of it 24 hour a day for that period and somehow made it all happen in that timeframe. We were married on Feb 14th, Valentine's Day 2009.

 

[foreverAFC]

Anyone care to attempt to describe this feeling?

have you ever wanted to weep and jerk off at the same time?

 

[NewToTheGame]

Wow. I have said a few times that younger girls like to have their commitment and play around at the same time. Its more of a feeling I have gotten through experience than something I know to be a 100% fact.

Not that this one chick represents them all. But she probably represents a huge percentage. I might be naive to think that that percentage goes down as they get older. But I sure hope so.

This post sure is an eye-opener. Still trying to process it, haha. Thanks for sharing.

 

[JoeMarron]

Damn, this is how "bitter" men are created. I can understand a dude trying to wife up a hot chick who treats him well but that was an incredibly stupid thing to do. The fact is no man in his right mind should be getting monogamous with a chick unless he knows he's of higher value. Dating down sounds bad but it makes sense. Why would you want a chick thinking she can do better than you? If any of us expects years of monogamous bliss with a hot chick then we need to be prepared to improve ourselves as men. However, I don't think this dude could've done anything to prevent this. Some women are just too fvcked up to be in a relationship with, regardless of how tight a man's game is.

 

[slikkmeister]

I can describe that feeling, all too well. It feels like you're getting stabbed in the gut, with a spear, coated with acid, that was heated to 15000 degrees, cursed by a witch doctor while being held by Satan herself!

 

[TheException]

Shows exactly the folly of advice like this

A decent attempt.....but you forgot something. Although this is good:

She was spending all her free time with me, coming to visit me while I worked, coming to my house before I got home from work to cook my dinner, writing me love notes, doing my laundry, doing all kinds of crazy sexual stuff. Basically pulling out all the stops. Around a year in, she moved in with me. Things got even better. We never fought and seemed to be hopelessly in love. Everyone was envious of us.

This is not:

Ashley, her girlfriend who was always present for these "girls nights". She contacted me privately and told me, "do NOT give her another chance. You need to know something. She's been cheating on you from the very beginning of the relationship, with one guy after another, all these years. I can't remember all their names but its definitely more than 10 guys at this point, maybe 15 in total."

My mind was blown. What kind of pathological Tiger Woods-esque little *** dumpster did I devote my life to here? How did she get away with this for so long? How did she manage to convince me she was a good person and not a soulless evil ***** all this time? Why did she act like she was in love with me while ****ing other guys? Why did she get engaged to me while ****ing other guys? Why did she MARRY ME while ****ing other guys?

All the details came out. She had kept seeing her ex-bf before me for the first 8 months of the relationship. She went on a trip to Florida right after our engagement, during the happiest time of our relationship, and ****ed a guy she met down there. Told me she was going to her friend's in Worcester for the weekend, stayed at a guy's house that weekend. Said she was taking shrooms with a girlfriend, actually spent the day with a guy from the gym. Used hanging out with Ashley as an alibi many times when she was out being a *****. She met alot of guys at bars, alot from the gym, and was probably also ****ing her chiropractor. Alot of her gym sessions ran 2-3 hours long. Probably ****ing them in their cars, who knows.

I even said this guy was a fool.

So you dont think staying out of a girl's past is most beneficial? Maybe we should all subscribe to what you called "sound tactics"

I've spent a lot of time hacking girls emails and reading their phones when they were sleeping.

Im sure if we all do this, we could be like you and NEVER have a woman cheat on us........Oh oops, nevermind.

 

[TheException]

Ignoring a girls past is idiotic advice, to be kind. Just is. This guy could have saved himself a lot of time and agony.

There is a difference between ignoring a girls past and asking about it overtly with prying questions.

Her sexual past is part of screening. But you shouldnt be trying to figure out her past 5 boyfriends names and take part in any hacking of phones or email.

 

[djthiago1]

There is a difference between ignoring a girls past and asking about it overtly with prying questions.

Her sexual past is part of screening. But you shouldnt be trying to figure out her past 5 boyfriends names and take part in any hacking of phones or email.

Personally i wouldn't be doing that on a regular basis, but i certanly would if i suspected something.

 

[Desdinova]

Anyone care to attempt to describe this feeling?

Getting hit in the face with a brick. The person who threw the brick is your best friend.

 

[Bokanovsky]

There is a difference between ignoring a girls past and asking about it overtly with prying questions.

Her sexual past is part of screening. But you shouldnt be trying to figure out her past 5 boyfriends names and take part in any hacking of phones or email.

"Hacking" is illegal and I'm not encouraging any illegal activities. However, if you have the opportunity to look through her phone, facebook, email account, etc. you'd be a fool not to do so. It's simple due diligence.

 

[TheException]

That's fine. I was disagreeing with the categorical statements I quoted from you about the relevance of prior history, equalism, etc that sounds like something from Loveshack.


Reasonable people can disagree on tactics used to discern such history. I certainly agree that you should not ASK overtly about past history...girls are more than willing to let that info slip.

Thats very fair. The quote you took from me was specific to a problem that a poster was asking advice on. He heard something from a third party and was asking if he should confront his girlfriend about it. I was stating how stupid that is considering its not even known fact. Obviously you should not ignore a girls past. Like they say.....once a wh0re always a wh0re.

"Hacking" is illegal and I'm not encouraging any illegal activities. However, if you have the opportunity to look through her phone, facebook, email account, etc. you'd be a fool not to do so. It's simple due diligence.

You call it "due diligence" I call it "being a chump". Can you not see how paranoid and pathetic that is? Oh look its 5pm on tuesday...time for my weekly "due diligence" on all my girlfriends communication tools.

If you're acting like this.....shes the prize, not you. Period.

 

[lgbs2004]

That's why I always say: women are only good for sex. Pump n' dump those bishes, guys!!!!!

 

[Alvafe]

Thats very fair. The quote you took from me was specific to a problem that a poster was asking advice on. He heard something from a third party and was asking if he should confront his girlfriend about it. I was stating how stupid that is considering its not even known fact. Obviously you should not ignore a girls past. Like they say.....once a wh0re always a wh0re.

You call it "due diligence" I call it "being a chump". Can you not see how paranoid and pathetic that is? Oh look its 5pm on tuesday...time for my weekly "due diligence" on all my girlfriends communication tools.

If you're acting like this.....shes the prize, not you. Period.

a side not, like always its only ilegal if they can prove it,

if she use anything yours, you can put any kind of keyloger and take a look, sometimes you don't even need to look on her things to know. having a huge network, with several know people helps and a lot. having good memory and know when her lies is nice too.