Beauty in the eye of the beholder is only partially true!

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The whole "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is not a completely true concept.

All humans are attracted to facial balance and symmetry. It is "hard-wired" into our brains.

The whole "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" concept only applies to men and women who are not strikingly pretty/handsome.

E.G. No person on this earth would call Catherine Zeta Jones, Monica Belucci or Natalie Portman average or below average looking. Just like no women on this earth would call George Clooney or Paul Walker average or below average looking.

Of course, there are certain women who are average or above average (but don't have strikingly pretty features) that we might find beautiful in our own little way. (E.g. Her unique facial structure, her nose, large eyes etc.)

So, if a woman is so attractive that she can pass for a Victoria's Secret Model, you can 100% guarantee EVERY other guy is drooling over her.
 

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No i disagree with you..

its different than you think.

for example , i agree universal beauty does exist.


but for example, if you've got blonde, eastern european looks, that may appeal more to people who are from that region than a girl from india who may like a guy thats got black hair and darker complexion.

but if a guy is universally beautiful he will be beautiful for all girls.

but if its not universally, but still looks good, he'll appeal those who understand and appreciate his looks, namely girls that looks like him...or those who care about other things than looks.
 

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There are two universal rules of physical attraction regardless of cultural relativity or philosophical rhetoric:

1. Symmetry
2. The Golden Ratio (1.618:1)

The closer you adhere, the greater your appeal. Those are the only two aspects of attraction which are objective, of course everything else is subjective.

However, be that said, as you get older your sense of attraction refines, shrinks, narrows. Your eyes become much more selective. I can easily be in a bar surrounded by 40 qualifiedly beautiful women, but yet be strikingly attracted to maybe only one or two, whilst when I was much younger I was attracted to 80-90% of girls.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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mackdaddy27 said:
No i disagree with you..

its different than you think.

for example , i agree universal beauty does exist.


but for example, if you've got blonde, eastern european looks, that may appeal more to people who are from that region than a girl from india who may like a guy thats got black hair and darker complexion.

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Obviously you haven't met any swarthy dark haired Turkish/Middle Eastern looking guys who visit Riga, Tallinn, or Kyiv. We...uh...they might have a different story to tell you :whistle:
 

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mackdaddy27 said:
No i disagree with you..

its different than you think.

for example , i agree universal beauty does exist.


but for example, if you've got blonde, eastern european looks, that may appeal more to people who are from that region than a girl from india who may like a guy thats got black hair and darker complexion.

but if a guy is universally beautiful he will be beautiful for all girls.

but if its not universally, but still looks good, he'll appeal those who understand and appreciate his looks, namely girls that looks like him...or those who care about other things than looks.
That's so true, most of Victoria Secret models are European. IMO they are 1000 times better looking than celebrities. Alessandra Ambrosio is SO HOT, now that's is a 11/10. I bet she looks just as good without make up on.

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/...io/pictures/alessandra-ambrosio-picture-1.jpg

http://www.stormmodels.com/images_models/2932/Alessandra_Ambrosio_74.jpg

http://www.izabelgoulartpics.info/i...osio_three_girls_touching_each_other_sexy.jpg

Without Makeup

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1366/759832198_bba05695bc.jpg
 

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Originally Posted by Nip/Tuck
That's so true, most of Victoria Secret models are European. IMO they are 1000 times better looking than celebrities. Alessandra Ambrosio is SO HOT, now that's is a 11/10. I bet she looks just as good without make up on.

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/m...-picture-1.jpg

http://www.stormmodels.com/images_mo...mbrosio_74.jpg

http://www.izabelgoulartpics.info/images/Izabel_Goulart_Adriana_Lima_Alessandra_Ambrosio_th ree_girls_touching_each_other_sexy.jpg

Without Makeup

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1366/...bba05695bc.jpg
I think their cute
which goes back to "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
 

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spiff said:
these girls arent very hot to me, lol there faces are a bit manly!
Italian and Brazilian girls manly? What you are a homosexual? European and Asian girls in general are much more feminine then American sk*nks.
 
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This thread is utterly retarded. Of course it's going to be a universally held belief that Monica Bellucci is much more attractive than Rosie O'Donnell. But when you get into the 7-10 range, people's tastes are going to vary a lot.
 

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Master Bates said:
This thread is utterly retarded. Of course it's going to be a universally held belief that Monica Bellucci is much more attractive than Rosie O'Donnell. But when you get into the 7-10 range, people's tastes are going to vary a lot.
I agree and existence of a 10 is probably impossible to prove. Since there will be so many different opinions on the girl. So the lesson here is don't assign numerical numbers on chicks and just go for the girl if you think she's hot. I think guys should have two categories non-fvckable and fvcakble.
 

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spiff said:
no and the big huge square faces are not hot.

i didnt say anything about european or asians.

and get over your anti american bull****
What square faces? Are you talking about the "America" female bodybuilders? Why you so defensive about American women? Everyone knows the majority are fat and ugly. If there was nothing bad to say about America, I wouldn't. You're just denying the facts and can't handle the criticism since you believe that America is so much better than the rest of the world. Too bad, it's my opinion and you can't do two sh*ts about it. :p
 

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Vladimir Horowitz said:
I didn't know that. Where are you getting your stats from? By definition, most American women are average. What are you, sparky reincarnated? It's a constant barrage of anti-American rhetoric from you.



What about the good stuff? That's what I thought. Just like the "pundits" that won't answer the question of whether or not they want us to win in Iraq.



Pretty much the only true statement in that post.
Actually since it's all my opinion why did you have to comment? I get my stats and views from personal experience. Maybe you two should travel together and see what your missing out. Constant barrage of rhetoric? Really? Too bad most it's TRUE and what's wrong with anti-American. It's not my fault that you guys have sh*tty women. Please share the good side, since I can't find any myself. Since you're so knowledgeable about American women. What positive features do they have?
 

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Nip/Tuck said:
That's so true, most of Victoria Secret models are European. IMO they are 1000 times better looking than celebrities. Alessandra Ambrosio is SO HOT, now that's is a 11/10. I bet she looks just as good without make up on.

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/...io/pictures/alessandra-ambrosio-picture-1.jpg

http://www.stormmodels.com/images_models/2932/Alessandra_Ambrosio_74.jpg

http://www.izabelgoulartpics.info/i...osio_three_girls_touching_each_other_sexy.jpg

Without Makeup

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1366/759832198_bba05695bc.jpg

Weird. I like her body, its very attractive. But her face is just average IMO.

Just shows that beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beholder.
 

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spiff said:
no and the big huge square faces are not hot.

i didnt say anything about european or asians.

and get over your anti american bull****
Finally, someone else that doesn't find the female models, that are picked by gay fashion designers, with the boyish figures and mannish cheekbones and jawlines attractive.

I wish the people in charge would actually start picking women with the low, rounded feminine cheekbones and softer jawlines with the hourglass body shape. Then models would actually be attractive.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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wootapotky said:
Finally, someone else that doesn't find the female models, that are picked by gay fashion designers, with the boyish figures and mannish cheekbones and jawlines attractive.

Agreed. I see those women and I'm afraid they might bite at my flesh like a ravenous Shih Szu on an ether binge. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a Shih Szu in the depths of an ether binge.:nervous:
 

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spiff said:
honestly if I would be able to sex any 1-10 women and no one would know about it I would do it.

but attraction is a different story
Ew... so you would do Rossie O'Donald if no one would know about it.
 

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Vladimir Horowitz said:
Anybody that would have sex with this woman has ZERO credibility. Forget what I asked about Alessandra Ambrosio; it doesn't apply to you anymore.

To the other two posters, the question still stands.
Yes I would, she's not super mannish looking, only mildly, and definitely not as much as others, but for one she's famous, and two, I don't have to stare at her face. I don't find her ugly but there's nothing that really appeals to me about her either.

She reminds me of a girl in one of my classes with a mildly strong jaw. I don't find her sexually attractive and I wouldn't go for her but if she offered I wouldn't be disgusted either.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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