Bad Aging In Men

[Uglyfrustratedchump]

My sister told me today that i'm aging badly for a man, I'm 35 and i feel really bad when i look at pics from 6 years ago when i had girls interested and i wonder what happened to me in 6/7 years to became like what i'm today.

I have done an otoplasty and rhinoplasty but i really dont like what i see. My eyes became droopy and i dont know the reason and even though i have done those surgeries i feel like i'm not even close to what i would like to appear. I feel and look like a 1 or a 2 in the looks department. i have always a sad /droopy the dog look. i Suck at being bald, facial hair doesnt suit me. I have the looks of a aids guy or a junky or an old dad. ****!!! is there anything i can do so i can improve a little bit. im 35 and i look like 40 or 45. and dont talk to me about confidence cuz in this case it doesnt help much.

 

[nismo-4]

There's so much kinds of plastic surgery that can be done here. But shop around.

 

[Groovy]

Do you jack off? If yes, stop it for a week or two and then look at your face afterward and tell me if it looks better or not. My bet is it will regain much of it's sparkle.

Also, diet, sleep and exercise. Don't eat before you sleep and stuff like that. Actually I do that, but I've heard it's not healthy. Research these things... Give attention to this kinds of details. When do you go to sleep and for how many hours? Do you eat fruits, drink soy milk and have you tried nuts? These things are among my favorites. Try some stuff out, and then tell us how you are doing. Do you drink\smoke? Stop now.

Good luck!

In my opinion plastic surgery is stupid and for weak people... Don't do it anymore. You will loose part of your personality...

But kudos to you, you WANT to be better, and seem to be willing to start... This may turn out to be big, your life will improve much! if you take action, use your brain and strive each day to improve... I want to see how this turns out. Try to be the greatest you've been so far! Go go go!

 

[Iceberg]

It's weird that you've had two plastic surgeries. Not gonna lie.

Here's the deal with that. You're chasing some dream. You're thinking "Oh, if I have a better nose, THEN I'll be happy." "Once my ears are nicer, THEN I'll be happy." And now that you've had those surgeries what do you think? You're thinking that once you look younger, then you'll be happy.

I hate sounding like a hippie, but this is true...happiness is going to come from within. There's no purchase you can make that's going to turn things around for you. You probably already know this....but two surgeries for a 35 year old dude is NOT normal. You probably should talk to someone about that.

I don't feel like writing a whole lot here, but that's all I can say. You have some things going on inside your head that a bunch of internet amateurs like myself can't help you with.

 

[terran2k]

do you exercise? can you post a pic?

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Do you jack off? If yes, stop it for a week or two and then look at your face afterward and tell me if it looks better or not. My bet is it will regain much of it's sparkle.

There is so much bad advice mixed in with some good advice in this thread I don't really no where to start. Jacking off has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with aging! LOL I don't know why this generation of kids thinks whacking off is the anti-christ.


Also, diet, sleep and exercise. Don't eat before you sleep and stuff like that.

Diet, sleep and exercise I definitely agree with, BUT you were a little vague. It should read like this: eat whole, natural foods as much as you can. Avoid binging on processed garbage (soda, chips, fast food). Get to bed around the same time every night to set up your body's internal clock. Exercise for all the obvious benefits and to prevent the aging of cells...Pubmed that if you want proof. But the don't eat before you sleep?? LOL Where did you pull that out of?? Let me guess some Jenny Craig study that talks about weight gain?? If that's the case your wrong, weight gain is all about excess calories and the body'd inability to properly metabolize them if diet and exercise are in place.

Actually I do that, but I've heard it's not healthy. Research these things... Give attention to this kinds of details. When do you go to sleep and for how many hours?

Agreed, good advice here.

Do you eat fruits, drink soy milk and have you tried nuts? These things are among my favorites. Try some stuff out, and then tell us how you are doing. Do you drink\smoke? Stop now.

Soy Milk! LOL Wow you need to educate yourself bro. Soy is bad for you in so many ways unless its fermented and that Silk Soy you drink is not!

Good luck!

In my opinion plastic surgery is stupid and for weak people... Don't do it anymore. You will loose part of your personality...

Somewhat agree, I think to each their own and in certain cases some people can really benefit from a nose job or a brow lift or whatever it is that slightly holds them back. However I def agree on not going over-board and not letting it become an obsession.


But kudos to you, you WANT to be better, and seem to be willing to start... This may turn out to be big, your life will improve much! if you take action, use your brain and strive each day to improve... I want to see how this turns out. Try to be the greatest you've been so far! Go go go!

Your intentions are great so I commend you for that. Your advice is spotty at best, don't let the media brainwash you on what's healthy and what's not. Do your own research and connect the dots. Because right now you sound like a government study on "how to be healthy" and the last time I checked the Food Pyramid was a complete joke, but then again I have lots of thoughts tha go against the grain....

PIMP

 

[Jeffst1980]

It's weird that you've had two plastic surgeries. Not gonna lie.

Here's the deal with that. You're chasing some dream. You're thinking "Oh, if I have a better nose, THEN I'll be happy." "Once my ears are nicer, THEN I'll be happy." And now that you've had those surgeries what do you think? You're thinking that once you look younger, then you'll be happy.

I hate sounding like a hippie, but this is true...happiness is going to come from within. There's no purchase you can make that's going to turn things around for you. You probably already know this....but two surgeries for a 35 year old dude is NOT normal. You probably should talk to someone about that.

I don't feel like writing a whole lot here, but that's all I can say. You have some things going on inside your head that a bunch of internet amateurs like myself can't help you with.

Iceberg speaks the truth. Having multiple plastic surgeries will beget more plastic surgeries, because the problem is NOT how you look, but how you see yourself. You will always be aiming for some impossible ideal.

For men, facial attractiveness really should not even be an issue. Want to improve the way you look? Go to the gym and get jacked. Women are drawn to masculinity, not pretty eyelashes. Becoming more muscular than the average 35 year old will help you IMMENSELY.

Your sister should know better than to tell a person with crippling insecurities with their appearance that they are "aging badly for a man," so I'm betting that she never said it to begin with, and this is simply your own biased perception of yourself. The reality is not nearly so bad, I'd wager.

Change your username--stop trying to reinforce your poor self esteem, or you'll find yourself deeper down the rabbit hole. You should NOT be allowed to have more plastic surgery, and you should see a therapist to work out these issues.

If you want to improve your appearance as a MAN, the only realistic route is through the gym doors. You don't need a pretty face unless you're a woman.

 

[Chickfight]

I think I remember you posted a picture of yourself a while back and you weren't even ugly. You were average looking. You've got all your hands and feet and if you can afford expensive plastic surgery then you must live a comfortable life. So you realize you already have more to work with than most people. Stop making excuses and start improving your inner self.

 

[Uglyfrustratedchump]

here its me with 27 on the left


and with 35



so what would you change? the first thing i notice is that my eyes seem different not only in shape, but it's like they lack any emotions whatsoever. but i think it's the droopy eyes thing which i didnt had before.

Think the moustache, soulpatch and beard is just not my style.

I think also i'm too pale also, nothing i can't change but will it change anything?

I'm hoping i will get some help. I won't accept this status quo without a fight. doing the otoplasty and rinoplasty (this pic is before the rino) was just a step but it didnt provide the effects i really wanted.

Think the facial features are the main problem, insecurity due to not being like i really wanted to comes in second.

When i was 27/28 i had women approaching me that's a fact i always had. now it's zero, zilch.

 

[Uglyfrustratedchump]

the surgeries didnt cost anything, i had that possibility

 

[Groovy]

PIMP

This is one side of the arguement: Semen has proteins, vitamins and also all kinds of stuff in it. It is powerful enough to make babies... Pure life force. One drop of semen is 10 drops of blood. Follow me... Because of that, just loosing it will make an effect on your body, agreed? The face is affected. One could think, wow, if it is because all the good stuff in semen, just eat it back and you are off the hook, right? That is a GREAT question. I myself am not clear. But it seems it is not that simple. MBing also releases energy that was stored in your nervous system. If there is none there, it starts to draw it from other organs. (source later).

So I recommend- don't MB. EVER. (My opinion for now, I haven't done it in +2 months) If you have an contrary opinion say it! I am not exactly sure what do the people who MB daily have as an argument, so I leave that to them. One could say, well semen doesn't contain much things at all... But in one ejaculation you may loose 3-5 mg of zinc, which is nearly a third of your RDA. (http://thehealthblogger.com/masturbation-it-is-not-healthy-for-you-contrary-to-popular-belief/)

SEE IT FOR YOURSELF... check your face before\after you MB... it may look more tired, less fresh... And also see your energy after doing it!

I haven't tried eating my own semen as an attempt to eliminate the drawbacks of masturbation, so I can't tell if it works... But I think it won't. I may try it some day! I think it won't because of this link http://herballove.com/article.asp?Art=11 and also intuition.

Actually, now I read a part of that article I wasn't yet aware of, and it seems that sometimes it can be healthy.. Hmm! Tricky, tricky topic... More opinions wanted!

Aristotle for example also said that semen was extremely important and so did the Buddhists. www.semenloss.com this website really changed my views...15 minutes read.

Of course, you may not agree. But if what I am saying is true, and not masturbating can be VERY good, why don't you try it and see it for yourself? That way you will be sure.

BTW, if you think eating semen is crazy, (don't read this part if you are easily disgusted) some scientists have actually put their own feces in the microscope to study them!
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Thanks for the expansion! I do Tai Chi sometimes. It's good exercise. Recommended. But why are you so against the "don't sleep before you eat?". It looks to me that if you sleep, your organs are not that active which will influence your digestion, it may mess something up...
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Soy milk has calcium, vitamin E and B12, for example... I think it is healthy because of that... Why do you say otherwise, pimp?

It relaxes and makes me feel more focused.... but my mind is open.

TYVM for the reply and the complement, by the way! : D

 

[Pimp-sicle]

I agree with your analyze on yourself.

The facial hair and bald head are just drawing more attention to your face. Are you completely bald or can you grow any hair? Maybe a buzz cut would do you better.

Secondly it really sounds like your not coming to grips with the fact that as you age your looks fade. 8 years is a LONG TIME dude.

Also as others have said, get on a good nutrition plan, hit the gym and take care of yourself. Doesn't look like you workout based on your pics.




PIMP

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Semen has proteins, vitamins and also all kinds of stuff in it. It is powerful enough to make babies... Pure life force. One drop of semen is 10 drops of blood. Follow me... Because of that, just loosing it will make an effect on your body, agreed?

And if you don't masturbate, you think that "energy" just stays a part of you permanently? The sperm you made today doesn't just hang around your body until you use it. You manufacture 70 - 150 million sperm per day. What happens to the unused "un-jerked-off" sperm? It's broken down into waste. It doesn't stick around, strengthening you like magical tiger blood (sorry, couldn't help it).

I mean if all this unhealthy stuff happens from ejaculation, then does your philosophy think of sex as unhealthy too? All that "pure life force" leaving the body. Oh, no, that's different right?

SEE IT FOR YOURSELF... check your face before\after you MB... it may look more tired, less fresh... And also see your energy after doing it!

Even if that were true, so what? My face looks more tired after I MB...and that lasts for how long? 5 minutes? You're making it sound like my face is going to carry the burden of an 8am jerk off session all day long. "Why does Mantis seem so tired today?" "Probably because me jerked off last night!"

Do you see how exaggerated this sounds to a normal person?

 

[d!ckmojo]

Groovy is 100% correct.

I am a Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner. I know a lot of ppl think that is bull$hit and "woo woo" or woteva/ I don't giv a fark.

But I'm telling u UFC that just by looking at your photo I can diagnose u according to the principles of TCM: You went bald, you have dark circles under your eyes, and you have pale skin.

All three of this indications point towards what is known in TCM terminology as "Kidney Yang Deficiency". One of the primary causes of Kidney Yang Deficiency, (apart from congenital factors that you have no control over), is excessive ejaculation.

Semen is your life force dude, condensed into a small amount of thick, viscous fluid (at least, that's what the consistency of healthy semen should like).

In TCM, the kidney energy is responsible for the storage of your life force. The theory is that as kidney energy declines and life force is spent, THAT is what causes the aging process.

But don't worry, there are things you can do to regenerate life force and stop or slow down premature aging.
1. Be asleep by 11pm. Your body and its cells regenerate themselves most actively in the very dead of the night. Circadian rythym and all. If you can be asleep 5 or 6 nights of the week by 11pm, this alone will go a long way to restoring your energy and preserving your life force.

2. Breath fresh clean air, drink fresh clean water. That means no smoking. That means adequate hydration, 2L of pure water minumum per day.

3. Moderate amounts of excercise will actually strengthen the Kidney energy according to TCM (although excessive exercise i.e. heavy weight training more than 4 times per week / continuous cardio for more than 2 hrs every day etc. will deplete Kidney energy).

4. Moderate amounts of sexual intercourse with a healthy (preferably young) woman (or better yet, women). Because in this scenario you're not just wasting your semen, you are exchanging bodily fluids, and this will help to bring harmony to your own hormonal and energetic states of homeostasis.

5. More advanced options are available such as Chinese herbal medecine (Ginseng, Cordyceps, Deer antler, Eucomia bark etc) and some foods (walnuts, marrow bone soup, lamb kidneys, bull testicles etc) will help as well, along with Qi Gong therapy and Acupuncture/Massage.

This system is a comprehensive approach and it does work, although I don't want to get into an argument with sceptics who've never tried it and know very little about it. (Sorry but I'm sick of the sneering attitude of internet sceptics lately).

 

[Groovy]

In the no MB discussion there were people who said that they felt bad for like 1 week after MBing... And good point about the sex!!

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you haven't read that link up there... "When a man has sexual intercourse with a female, certain trace minerals and prostaglandins are absorbed from the female vaginal secretions which balance this effect! Bet you didn’t know that?!"

Sex with a condom, would it be the same as a MB? I can only guess that it is different, because physiologically it isn't the same thing... But I too wonder about that. I am not sure.

And if you don't masturbate, you think that "energy" just stays a part of you permanently? The sperm you made today doesn't just hang around your body until you use it. You manufacture 70 - 150 million sperm per day. What happens to the unused "un-jerked-off" sperm? It's broken down into waste. It doesn't stick around, strengthening you like magical tiger blood (sorry, couldn't help it).

Even if that were true, so what? My face looks more tired after I MB...and that lasts for how long? 5 minutes? You're making it sound like my face is going to carry the burden of an 8am jerk off session all day long. "Why does Mantis seem so tired today?" "Probably because me jerked off last night!"

Do you see how exaggerated this sounds to a normal person?

Sounds totally plausible to me, that stuff is powerful IMO...

It may be waste, but I think it comes out in wet dreams, which are different then MBing. What you loose in wet dreams isn't harmful, what you loose in masturbation seems to be most of the times or always. (I think it always is).

BTW, magical tiger blood, my dictionary just got bigger haha that one is great!

Edit, to post below: It doesn't circulate in your blood? Read that site, sememloss.com, and then we will talk. BTW, that is just a saying, like a neat slogan, "one drop of semen equals 10 drops of blood", to symbolize it's significance. I just wrote it for the coolness.

 

[Jeffst1980]

You look fine. Get rid of the soul patch and go to the gym. Your eyes are fine, and your features are normal. You should NOT be having so many problems.

Your lack of confidence is to blame- i know... you don't want to hear that, because you want to believe it's something superficial. Listen up: you CAN NOT get a women excited if you don't feel attractive yourself. All the stuff on this site--****y/ funny, teasing, etc.--works because it demonstrates that you feel GOOD about yourself. This is contagious; women want to align themselves with guys that feel good about themselves so that THEY, in turn, can feel good about themselves.

As it is, you are projecting so little self-worth that girls are unable to feel the attraction that they likely would feel if you had a compelling, magnetic personality. Really, you should seek some therapy, because these kinds of confidence problems are out of the bounds of this site. I will tell you, however, that old men with WAY worse looks than yours are getting laid at this very moment, and it would take an act of incredible obtuseness for this fact NOT to force you to acknowledge that factors other than your [normal, healthy] looks are preventing you from getting girls.



Also, Groovy-- that post was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen on this site. You need to learn how the body absorbs nutrients...the fact that semen has trace amounts of minerals does NOT mean that ejaculation will remove nutrients from your bloodstream. One drop of semen does NOT equal 10 drops of blood, because semen and blood are different fluids that serve different functions. You do not have semen circulating throughout your body.

 

[Energy25]

How can people seriously argue that masturbating a lot does not have negative effects? Like it has already been said in this thread, SEMEN IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO MAKE LIFE ITSELF, so how in the hell can you sit here and pretend its completely ok to jackoff all the time. Wow....Dubmasses.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

How can people seriously argue that masturbating a lot does not have negative effects? Like it has already been said in this thread, SEMEN IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO MAKE LIFE ITSELF, so how in the hell can you sit here and pretend its completely ok to jackoff all the time. Wow....Dubmasses.

Calm down, sonny. The men are speaking....

And no one said jerking off all the time. Groovy said to cut out jerking off all together. And that was the debate we were having before you so politely jumped in.

 

[rocket87]

Soy milk has calcium, vitamin E and B12, for example... I think it is healthy because of that... Why do you say otherwise, pimp?

It relaxes and makes me feel more focused.... but my mind is open.

Soy milk (any soy bean based product) metabolizes into pure estrogen in the human body. As a male, you're going to want to avoid estrogen as much as possible (duh). I would highly advise against consuming it.

By no means is this a scientific website or proven author, but it's contents are true and correct: The Effect of Estrogen on Males

Frankly I'm shocked you haven't come across this in your "research?"

I feel and look like a 1 or a 2 in the looks department.

Btw, HONESTLY not trying to be a d!ck, but to the OP, "Uglyfrustratedchump", everything from your facial expression in that pic, to the way you describe yourself in your post ("and dont talk to me about confidence cuz in this case it doesnt help much."), to your username is just stank full of deep issues. You have severe insecurities that I would suggest you get professionally checked out. (I am only making this suggestion based on the fact that it appears as though you're completely helpless.) Plastic surgery? Really..??

Go see a shrink and get yourself fixed. I really, honestly am not trying to be an @sshole, but you need to figure out your aging issues, self-awareness, perception, etc. I can't even imagine what else you complain about in your every day life. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get off your @ss and do something positive about it. Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life. Stop wasting it.

Do you realize how totally fine you look (http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5550/06032011264.jpg)? Go get some earrings if you want to be a bit more ****y/confident looking. As long as you feel like dirt sh!t inside, women will see right through your insecurities and you will live the rest of your life this way if you don't do something about it.

Good luck dude.

 

[Warrior74]

Your sister shook you hard. You had a weak frame and she gave it a strong kick.