at the disco... (maybe the problem of most of the guys)

[piri]

ok. I just came from the disco (no, I'm not drunk, I almost don't drink ), so I'm gonna talk about this while it's still fresh.

Just for you guys to know, I'm 18, I'm one of the most popular guys in my college, I'm a model (top model, don't know how to say it in english), I work at a clothes shop, I have a punk rock band and I get laid lots of times.
Basically, what I want to say is that I have everything I always wished for and maybe even more, and it's all thanks to this site, becomeaplayer.com and some books that these sites recommend that I have all that.
2 years ago I was just a stupid kid who just had a few girlfriends and was unknown by everyone.
thanks a lot.

But today, I finally figured the worst of my demons.
I can't start a conversation with girls at the disco.
So I'm gonna point some questions to you guys to simplify things:

How do you start a conversation with a girl that's dancing? Do you interrupt her dancing? Isn't that bad?

How do you start a conversation with a group of 4 or more girls?

How do you start a conversation with a girl that's with a group that includes guys?

Has you can see, my problem is with starting the conversations. After that, I can handle myself perfectly (at least I think so ).
These 3 things happaned to me today, and I did nothing. I acted like a coward because I knew it would be too bad to start a conversation in any of these occasions.

can you help me out with those questions? I mean REALLY help me out. With some real DJ answares (not some 14 year old kid's ones like: Just go there and talk to them).
These are the only things I need to get down to completly become the guy I always wanted to be.
Thanks a lot

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Erm, first to respond, so first to tell you your problem instead of a discussion...

Your looking for a conversation, in a place where actions speak louder than words...

You gotta stay congruent, no conversations when her world is focused around dancing. Like telling a drunk person who is having fun, to never drink again because they are going to regret it....

You've got to isolate before you can start the conversation if that is where your strong point is. Until than yoiu have to stay in the environment and call attention to your DJ physical attributes.

Start dancing boy and get her interested with the language of your body!!!

 

[PRMoon]

Question 1
Get really close to her and speak normally directly into her ear while dancing. I don't know why people say you can't talk in a club/disco because the music is too loud, it's simply not true but that's the best way to start a breif convo with a girl on the floor. If you want to have a more intimate conversation then tell her you should go somewhere else more quiet and less crowed where you can say what's on your mind.

Question 2
Groups of girls just means you have to have confidence when you walk up. I wing it, my room mate wings it, you can wing it or you can think up a clever opener to get the ball rolling for them to speak. Normally it only takes 1-2 minutes to get a group of girls to come hang out with your group of guys or for them to bring you into their girl party. I've crashed TONS of bachelorette parties this way and usually it's a pretty fun/interesting/strange ride

Question 3
Pretty much an evolved form of question 2 only some where you have to probe to find out if the guys they're with are their b/f's and which ones are single in a covert way. No point in wasting your time with a bunch of couples if that's the case. Then again if you're up for it you can try to pick one of the dudes pockets but that might get a cidar block through your car window.