As soon as you get better, they will know.

[jhonny9546]

You all have noticed.. as soon as you focus and improve something in your life, women will come.
Now, it doesn't mean that you will actively date them, but you will notice it on a passive level.
Women you don't know, actually, sense that you have something.
The cool fact is, you're not doing this for them, but for You and your life

 

[MatureDJ]

You all have noticed.. as soon as you focus and improve something in your life, women will come.
Now, it doesn't mean that you will actively date them, but you will notice it on a passive level.
Women you don't know, actually, sense that you have something.
The cool fact is, you're not doing this for them, but for You and your life

FocusCope.

 

[SW15]

It is possible with a substantial improvement in looks.

It takes a lot of money to change that. Many men won't make enough money even after pay raises/promotions to have it make a difference. I've seen examples of men earning six figures who didn't see any improvement with women. Low six figures hasn't cut it in a while.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

You all have noticed.. as soon as you focus and improve something in your life, women will come.
Now, it doesn't mean that you will actively date them, but you will notice it on a passive level.
Women you don't know, actually, sense that you have something.
The cool fact is, you're not doing this for them, but for You and your life

What it takes is a huge commitment in time, effort, mindset, and determination. I do relationship coaching for men. I pop onto this forum every now and then to get ideas for my YouTube videos, plus Pook and Anti Dump (from this forum many years ago) were big influences on me when I started and finally developed my system.

The majority of men are already defeated and resign themselves to a life of despair and defeat when it comes to women. It does not have to be that way.

What it takes is a HUGE decision. A decision that says "I am tired of how I am and the way my life is going. I am going to throw my self headfirst into a new life where I will become a Don Juan and successful with women!" I did this after my divorce at age 35 and started reading everything I could on relationships. I started with academia and found that material worthless. I then studied evolutionary biology and the design of the female brain and got traction. Then I got into the seduction community and by the time I was 42 I had mastered my system.

I spent an hour every night studying. Once my program was established I then spent an hour every night on Match.com or similar dating sites. 20-25 years ago online dating was great (not so much today). I started opening a woman every day, getting phone numbers. Sundays were full of 1 hour Star buck meet ups with 3-4 women. I soon had a 3 dating woman rotation.

Eventually I married the best one and 18 years later am still happily married.

The point is I became 100% serious about getting good at getting women to like/love me and keeping them in love.

You can do the same. Start following the knowledgeable people on this forum. Read all the Hall of fame posts. Read Pook and Anti Dump.

 

[jhonny9546]

and 18 years later am still happily married

There is always a phase of evolution, but it is always what you actively do to maintain things: so do you actively "dread" to maintain it or is it a relationship based on "nonviolent communication"?

It is possible with a substantial improvement in looks.

There are two women in my life (old highschool friends), even though they are currently engaged, who keep coming back as soon as they know I've changed something in my life. (For example, if I've gotten a new tattoo, changed my clothing style, bought a new car or house, gotten a dog, or adopted a new style of beard. They really "need" to come and "check" what's new, like when a new software release has a changelog, and you go to see it.

You have great knowledge, and I wonder what this means, and if it commonly happens to men who are on a "self-improvement" path, both out there and here in the forum.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You don't do any of this for women, you do it for yourself.

 

[CornbreadFed]

If you "level up" and still obsess over a old girl that you should have surpassed, was it really "leveling up"?

 

[Serenity]

If you "level up" and still obsess over a old girl that you should have surpassed, was it really "leveling up"?

No, because a major part of it is to learn how to feel good in life despite not always fulfilling desires. That means letting go and seems to be one of the things people in general struggle most to do, but it's absolutely necessary. It's not a matter of "if", just "when" and many people waste a huge amount of time before reaching the inevitable conclusion.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Low six figures hasn't cut it in a while.

Low six figures is a nothing burger.

 

[New_Journey]

FocusCope

Low six figures hasn't cut it in a while.

Loser cope

Low six figures is a nothing burger.

Says who? Maybe for you with children a wife to take care, buy a lot of expensive $hit, has expensive cars to show to people, a bigger house than needed so people know how great you are living, is $hit. If you spend every dollar you earn, no amount of money can save you.

 

[Mike32ct]

Loser cope


Says who? Maybe for you with children a wife to take care, buy a lot of expensive $hit, has expensive cars to show to people, a bigger house than needed so people know how great you are living, is $hit. If you spend every dollar you earn, no amount of money can save you.

There’s nothing wrong with low six figs per se. That’s where I’m at.

But it doesn’t really show up on women’s radar in 2025. I think that is what the other guys are getting at.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If you "level up" and still obsess over a old girl that you should have surpassed, was it really "leveling up"?

That's because most guys level up for women and not for themselves which is a huge mistake and won't get the overall life result they want.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Loser cope


Says who? Maybe for you with children a wife to take care, buy a lot of expensive $hit, has expensive cars to show to people, a bigger house than needed so people know how great you are living, is $hit. If you spend every dollar you earn, no amount of money can save you.

depends on who you are targeting and where you live tbh. If you live in Bum Fvck, Kentucky and making six figures then you will be a king to most of the women there. However, in most major cities, 6 figures isn't much to brag about especially if you are competing against higher smv men. In a city like Nashville, it is kind of 50/50. You can definitely live comfortably on six figures if you aren't an idiot and look like a king to certain social circles, but you can easily be humbled if you get ****y and aggressive outside that.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Says who?

I didn’t mean much by my statement. I simply meant it’s not a high income these days. I did not say it’s not enough for some to live comfortably.

It is not poor.

With that said, I don’t think it’s impressive to women. If I were single I wouldn’t give a damn that it’s not impressive.

The whole earn-more-money-for-vagin@ is a ruse!

 

[New_Journey]

women’s

women

women

women

Women women women, fvcking retarded. Every post in this forum revolves in men thinking so low of themselves that every $hit they have is targeted for women. No wonder why most of you are so thirsty that can't a fvcking puzzy. Who gives a fvck what women think about your fvcking money.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Women women women, fvcking retarded. Every post in this forum revolves in men thinking so low of themselves that every $hit they have is targeted for women. No wonder why most of you are so thirsty that can't a fvcking puzzy. Who gives a fvck what women think about your fvcking money.

I wrote this.

If I were single I wouldn’t give a damn that it’s not impressive.

The whole earn-more-money-for-vagin@ is a ruse!

So therefore I agree.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

There is always a phase of evolution, but it is always what you actively do to maintain things: so do you actively "dread" to maintain it or is it a relationship based on "nonviolent communication"?



There are two women in my life (old highschool friends), even though they are currently engaged, who keep coming back as soon as they know I've changed something in my life. (For example, if I've gotten a new tattoo, changed my clothing style, bought a new car or house, gotten a dog, or adopted a new style of beard. They really "need" to come and "check" what's new, like when a new software release has a changelog, and you go to see it.

You have great knowledge, and I wonder what this means, and if it commonly happens to men who are on a "self-improvement" path, both out there and here in the forum.

I generally do 5 things to keep my wife in love. Affection, romance, housework, the gift of missing me, and avoiding arguments. I have a video on this topic (about 3-4 actually) but I am not sure if posting links is/are consistent with forum rule.

I need access to this forum because it gives me ideas for new videos. For example, one of my best performing videos was from a post here about a guy sleeping with 15 women a month.

 

[SW15]

There’s nothing wrong with low six figs per se. That’s where I’m at.

But it doesn’t really show up on women’s radar in 2025. I think that is what the other guys are getting at.

That's the point I was making. I have known men with annual salaries in the low six figures in last 10-12 years and it wasn't helping them get dates and get laid.

 

[New_Journey]

it wasn't helping them get dates and get laid.

Those men are losers who don't know the art of seduction. Do they go telling the girls they make this amount of money and then ask them for a date?

 

[plumber]

It is possible with a substantial improvement in looks.

It takes a lot of money to change that. Many men won't make enough money even after pay raises/promotions to have it make a difference. I've seen examples of men earning six figures who didn't see any improvement with women. Low six figures hasn't cut it in a while.

inflation.... the formula is something like 5 to 10 times local average or is it mean. if the local average is 90k, then money game gets real at about 500k. but if the local is 9k(year), then money games starts at 45k. at 10x, its a strong play and stronger at 20x.

obviously if you have other value, the money can support at lower levels.