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article: Research Shows How Men Really Feel When They’re Around Smart Women

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In any female interaction of any duration, the following 3 things are what men value.

1. Physical attractiveness
2. Pleasant to be around
3. Good character

***TLDR-Women who are smart are less likely to be pleasant to be around in any sort of interaction.***

None of the 3 things mentioned above require anything more than average to slightly above average intelligence. For the sake of the discussion, we will quantify intelligence as one's IQ score. There's debate about whether IQ is a good metric for intelligence, but that gets too far away from the central point of the discussion. IQ scores are considered to be the classic example of a normal distribution of data points.

Before I go on, time for a visual of what a normal distribution of data points looks like.


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The line of 0 is average or the mean point. With IQ scores, 100 typically is considered the mean. If you want to know more about IQ score, I recommend this link...


The 0 point is a 100 IQ and the standard deviation is 15. 68% of the population (both male and female) has an IQ score between 85 - 115.

When the broader bell curve for both sexes is examined, more men tend to have IQ scores in 2.5% and 13.5% boxes. Men in the 2.5% box between 2 and 3 tend to be STEM guys with poor social skills who struggle to get laid. Men in the 2.5% box between -2 and -3 are stocking shelves at grocery stores or have some other McJob on a permanent basis, on a government sponsored disability program due to mental/physical limitations, are drug addicts, or are serving jail time.

Women's scores tend to cluster within 1 standard deviation of the mean. I'm sure plenty of men reading this post have interacted with a woman in the 13.5% box between 1 and 2. White collar men using swipe apps in large metro areas will meet women from the 13.5% box between 1-2, especially on Bumble and Hinge.

Physically attractive women are not necessarily ones with IQ scores above 115. I would say that most women that are high level cute or hot and under 40 likely have an IQ score between 90-110.

Being pleasant to be around requires nothing special. It requires some traits from good character such as not lying, not maliciously causing drama, not flaking, and not being excessively late. If a woman can handle the basics of good character, not being argumentative or ill tempered are crucial parts being pleasant. Not having emotional baggage and laying it on the man is part of being pleasant. Having regular sex with a guy is part of being pleasant for a woman. Pleasant is subjective and many men have their own definitions of it.

When women's physical attractive drops in their 40s, being pleasant to be around and having good character matters a lot more. It matters both for a man in an LTR with a woman or a man in his 50s-60s beginning a new relationship with a woman of a similar age.

With women in that 13.5%, I think it is common that they won't be pleasant in interactions. They'll often lack emotional intelligence. They'll be spouting feminist tripe in interactions. They may be career obsessed women like doctors, lawyers, and higher level business executives (Director and above) who don't prioritize a man's emotional needs and spend more time in self-absorbed pursuits. They'll cancel dates with no warning. They'll play games in relationships like withholding sex to get something else they want. None of this is good.
 
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This study sounds really suspect, most men couldn't care less how smart a woman is.

As long as she has a fat A$$ and a nice set of T!Ts nothing else matters
Not true. I can't date someone who is dumber than a box of rocks. Maybe this would work for guys on the lower end of the IQ spectrum(which to be honest is most of them).
 

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That article didn't cite any references.

But any study on anything would have to separate out variables as much as possible.

ugly dumb women
ugly smart women
hot dumb women
hot smart women

plus a few other variations (fat, pleasant personality, social skills, etc.) for each of those permuations.

Without that it's just a lefty using "science" to make stuff up.
 

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Women are plain wrong. An intelligent person being around another intelligent person feeds their intelligence and makes them feel better. There is not insecurity or anger at all, unless the other person is using their intelligence to be an assh0le, in that case anyone would be pissed to have to deal with them, and if it's your relationship partner it would make you insecure over time.
 

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For a man, as long as women is hot, fertile. young, between 20-30 and gives birth to healthy baby, she can be as smart as she wants.
 

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In any female interaction of any duration, the following 3 things are what men value.

1. Physical attractiveness
2. Pleasant to be around
3. Good character

***TLDR-Women who are smart are less likely to be pleasant to be around in any sort of interaction.***

None of the 3 things mentioned above require anything more than average to slightly above average intelligence. For the sake of the discussion, we will quantify intelligence as one's IQ score. There's debate about whether IQ is a good metric for intelligence, but that gets too far away from the central point of the discussion. IQ scores are considered to be the classic example of a normal distribution of data points.

Before I go on, time for a visual of what a normal distribution of data points looks like.


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The line of 0 is average or the mean point. With IQ scores, 100 typically is considered the mean. If you want to know more about IQ score, I recommend this link...


The 0 point is a 100 IQ and the standard deviation is 15. 68% of the population (both male and female) has an IQ score between 85 - 115.

When the broader bell curve for both sexes is examined, more men tend to have IQ scores in 2.5% and 13.5% boxes. Men in the 2.5% box between 2 and 3 tend to be STEM guys with poor social skills who struggle to get laid. Men in the 2.5% box between -2 and -3 are stocking shelves at grocery stores or have some other McJob on a permanent basis, on a government sponsored disability program due to mental/physical limitations, are drug addicts, or are serving jail time.

Women's scores tend to cluster within 1 standard deviation of the mean. I'm sure plenty of men reading this post have interacted with a woman in the 13.5% box between 1 and 2. White collar men using swipe apps in large metro areas will meet women from the 13.5% box between 1-2, especially on Bumble and Hinge.

Physically attractive women are not necessarily ones with IQ scores above 115. I would say that most women that are high level cute or hot and under 40 likely have an IQ score between 90-110.

Being pleasant to be around requires nothing special. It requires some traits from good character such as not lying, not maliciously causing drama, not flaking, and not being excessively late. If a woman can handle the basics of good character, not being argumentative or ill tempered are crucial parts being pleasant. Not having emotional baggage and laying it on the man is part of being pleasant. Having regular sex with a guy is part of being pleasant for a woman. Pleasant is subjective and many men have their own definitions of it.

When women's physical attractive drops in their 40s, being pleasant to be around and having good character matters a lot more. It matters both for a man in an LTR with a woman or a man in his 50s-60s beginning a new relationship with a woman of a similar age.

With women in that 13.5%, I think it is common that they won't be pleasant in interactions. They'll often lack emotional intelligence. They'll be spouting feminist tripe in interactions. They may be career obsessed women like doctors, lawyers, and higher level business executives (Director and above) who don't prioritize a man's emotional needs and spend more time in self-absorbed pursuits. They'll cancel dates with no warning. They'll play games in relationships like withholding sex to get something else they want. None of this is good.
Also, women in this category usually know they are smart and are used to dating guys who arent as smart as them. This tends to make them condescending and difficult to converse with as they seem uncomfortable when confronted with a male who can hold his own intellectually. Honestly, I'd say women are more threatened by smart men, at least from a relationship perspective, than the reverse. This group tends to be very kinky, however, so there's that.
 

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This study sounds really suspect, most men couldn't care less how smart a woman is.

As long as she has a fat A$$ and a nice set of T!Ts nothing else matters
I have to agree - in general - and certainly for professional action. I guess I am at the point where if I accidentally knock up a chick, I want my child to not be stupid.
 

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Personally, I've found overly smart women are far more argumentative, narcissistic (I'm always right!), and a turn off in the long run as they exude masculinity even if they're hot. I dated one for a few years an it's exhausting, the overt superiority complex they display.

I've also found that most of these women settle for docile beta males as the woman usually takes over the "dominant" role in the relationship and the guy is ok with it.
 

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Personally, I've found overly smart women are far more argumentative, narcissistic (I'm always right!), and a turn off in the long run as they exude masculinity even if they're hot. I dated one for a few years an it's exhausting, the overt superiority complex they display.

I've also found that most of these women settle for docile beta males as the woman usually takes over the "dominant" role in the relationship and the guy is ok with it.
100% accurate. And these women aren't all that happy with the docile beta.
 

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This is why females do not know what dudes want out of a female.. Most couldn't care about their $$$, status of brains. If we are attracted to them, and we can have sex with them, that's about it..
 

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Unless it's a quickie with a hot one-nighter, there's nothing worse than a dumb fvck. I'd rather be seen with a "7" that can carry herself well, than an "8" that would embarrass me in public.

I suppose that men with fragile egos might prefer their women to be a bit dense (by comparison, they'd get some quasi sense of superiority). I've lowered myself to dating women like this before. Outside the bedroom, it's no fun.
 

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There is a difference between women who are intelligent and women who think they are intelligent. The same applies to men.
 
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