Are short men doomed?

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^Wrong. Thinning hair is easier to see when you're looking up. Lights give that sh!t away more than looking down on someone's dome.
 

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It doesn't matter how tall you are. You shouldn't care what women think of you. The only thing you should care about is getting better at game and not letting your height deter you. If they aren't into you for your height, it really doesn't matter because you shouldn't give a damn anyway.
 

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jurry said:
Only in the world of betas filled with doubt/insecurity does height and hair matter. If you have the balls and the eyes and the game, doesnt make a damn difference. Look at tyler from RSD, ugly as fvck and pulls dimes every night of the week, because hes practically fearless. Theres also a good video that julien does about acting like the "fat bald ceo" take a look for it.
Tyler worked on his game for over ten years. That's the extreme herculean effort that a "not hot" guy has to put in to get women.

Yes, if you dedicate your entire life to pickup, you could look like Shrek and score. But that's not the same thing as saying looks/height/hair don't matter.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Tyler worked on his game for over ten years. That's the extreme herculean effort that a "not hot" guy has to put in to get women.

Yes, if you dedicate your entire life to pickup, you could look like Shrek and score. But that's not the same thing as saying looks/height/hair don't matter.
You dont need to dedicate your life to pickup, it is about maintaining an attitude. Looks are way more important to men than they are to women. Game trumps looks every day. I'm probably a 6 or 7 with very hit or miss game, and ill try to hit on any girl, dont give a fuk if she is a 10. All this analysis of looks and height etc. does is promote the loser mindset of "ahh i shouldnt bother because she is X and i am Y, it will never work". It is failure that you've decided upon for yourself to rationalize your fear of rejection. I see ugly guys all the time with smokin girls like "man how did he pull that off" and good for them, they just said fck it thats the girl i want i dont care about anything else.
 

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Don't get me wrong; I respect any guy who puts himself out there. I've even done it myself in the past and pulled a rabbit out of a hat at the last minute despite so so looks, but it's VERY difficult to do due to slim odds. My only point is that game is much less efficient the lower the guy is on the attractiveness scale. The lower your looks, the FAR more time required in the field if you choose to go that route.

I would never tell any guy to give up. Just know what you're dealing with, and never take it personally.

But anyway, back to the OP. I stand behind my hair comments though. Get the sexiest hairstyle you can, probably one with some volume. I would do that first, before even thinking about the gym or new clothes. It's the quickest and most bhang for the buck. Then focus on the body. Then clothes*.

*Off topic, but I believe that the shirt is the most important clothing item.

Good luck man.
 

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jurry said:
Look at tyler from RSD, ugly as fvck and pulls dimes every night of the week, because hes practically fearless. Theres also a good video that julien does about acting like the "fat bald ceo" take a look for it.
He's not ugly as fvck but I'll agree he is short, thinning hair and ginger. There's no real proof he pulls any girls let alone dimes. He's just running "flash game" and showing you the best ones out of many approaches.

Let him come to my city and go to the clubs and approach. I bet he doesn't pull anything.
 

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I'm not short by any means (6'2") but I'm here to share some good news:

Short height isn't a death blow. Not at all.

BUT

It's very tough to game women online when you're on the shorter side. As other posters have said every women online is looking for a 6 foot plus guy. Even if they're 5'0" and chubby! It's honestly ridiculous.

Shorter guys would be best served to work on real life game because height can be overcome by charisma and game. Online they'll shoot you down once they see that you're short.

Real life story: The hottest girl I ever messed with was a sexy 5'8" thickly built amazon of a women. Her ex? 5'5" skinny as a rail.

Have hope my vertically challenged brethren!
 

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jurry said:
Only in the world of betas filled with doubt/insecurity does height and hair matter. If you have the balls and the eyes and the game, doesnt make a damn difference. Look at tyler from RSD, ugly as fvck and pulls dimes every night of the week, because hes practically fearless. Theres also a good video that julien does about acting like the "fat bald ceo" take a look for it.
Those dimes are beng paid to get pulled for the propaganda videos that the betas watch thinking they can pull chicks too. Then when they go out and get laughed at, they get pissed off that they wasted their time and money on PUA gimimcks.

I was at a club once and chicks were getting paid to be in some PUA video they were filming. They even brought in their own girls just for the video.

I know a short guy and he isn't a beta at all. He is getting over looked because women want a tall guy.
 
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