Are Looks and Attitude Correlated?

[Genghis Juan]

I've enjoyed this board, and this question may be a moot point, particularly with the more experience DJ's out there. However, I'm a little bored so I decided to throw out this poll to discuss. I have had alot of debates with AFC and Jerk friends about this. The majority of which believe that a woman who is an HB8 or 9, often times is not worth pursuing because they are all bytches and not worth it or that they only like jerks, have more options, or money. I tend to believe they state this as a rationalization and excuse to not bother approaching these women.

But looking at all the posts here over the past several months and my own personal experience, I don't buy that. There are lots of average and ugly women out there whose attitudes are absolutely repulsive; due to perhaps bitterness over their ugliness or some sort of inferiority complex. I have met lots of HB9 and HB8's who have been very sweet and down-to-earth. Of course, there are stuck ones to with a superiority complex or have just been jaded by the constant male attention, who look at each new man as a horn dog. (Eventhough its true

As I have thrown myself into the trenchs anew, I no longer believe in a "cookie cutter" approach where things must be analyzed. Each women you observe and eventually interact with, I think, she be evaluted individually, so you can improvise with what signals and attitude she is giving you.

Allen Thompson and several others in the archives have argued that looks and attitude or not that correlated. In fact, attitude is correlated more with a woman's character, experiences and upbringing.

What do you guys think?

 

[Sho-No-Luv]

Try This!

Go try and talk to 5 average looking women. Then go try and talk to 5 beautiful bombshell type women. I'm not even saying to try and date or flirt with them, just try and have an decent conversation.

Or conversley you could just try saying hi to the two different groups. This is an experiment that I tried myself. And by far the average looking women were easier to talk to. Why don't you give it a try? Report back and let us know what happened.

Of course you could get different results.

Sho'

 

[Genghis Juan]

I just said vote, and voice your opinion. I already stated my opinion above, depends on the woman's character. My previous experience, since my college days, has told me it depends on the girl's character. Furthermore, it depends on the settings in which you approach her and how good of a conversationalist you are. It also depends on the proximity of your looks to hers and the "kind" of look you have compared to hers. If you look like a quasi-motto thug and approach a well-educated woman in a bookstore who is an HB8 or HB9, you don't stand much of a chance.

 

[Vigilante7]

very good question and i think its a mix of all 3

A girl knows if she is HOT or not, its very rare you seem a hot girl that has low self esteem - beauty

The girls that are hot might observe alot of guys going after her and she feels a higher value - experience / observation

A spoiled girl wont accept anything less then perfect - upbringing

nice question

 

[Genghis Juan]

Expand on Sum of Life Experiences

BTW, what I also mean by sum of life experiences is, has she had her heart broken before?

If a HB8 or HB9, has been dumped or cheated on a few times, her vanity and arrogance should be diminished as she realizes, if she mainly chased guys who are "high flyers", that men ALSO have other options and are not enamored by beauty.

 

[myfriendblu]

Re: Try This!

Originally posted by Sho-No-Luv
Go try and talk to 5 average looking women. Then go try and talk to 5 beautiful bombshell type women. I'm not even saying to try and date or flirt with them, just try and have an decent conversation.

Or conversley you could just try saying hi to the two different groups. This is an experiment that I tried myself. And by far the average looking women were easier to talk to. Why don't you give it a try? Report back and let us know what happened.

Of course you could get different results.

Sho'

Your absolutely right. Without a doubt. As a person who has probably done more CA's than anyone on this board, I can surely attest to this. Face it - HB9's and above more often than not think there sh it doesn't stink and act like there all that. A HB6 knows she aint all that so she is almost forced to be a little more approachable. Its simple facts of nature.

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

Psychology tells us that we react differently to people based on their appearances, and age isn't important. We tend to think of attractive people as more trustworthy, more honest, more intelligent, more capable, et cetera. And the opposite for less attractive people.

Think back to your school days. The pretty people typically were treated differently (and better) than their less attractive contemporaries. Less attractive people had to supplement themselves with intelligence, personality, athletic ability, etc. just to be on the same level. The only alternative was to become a bitter, angry loser.

Fast forward.

The pretty people, in their twenties, are still pretty -- in fact they're usually the prettiest they'll ever be. But there's little else to them. Still, they may be able to continue to skate by on their looks, but they'll have a harder time of it. Furthermore, with their entire existence built entirely on such a temporary facade as physical beauty, they will constantly be seeking reassurance and confirmation of their beauty.

It's at this point that we date the most. Although there are exceptions to every rule, you will often find that extremely attractive girls are more boring, more inane, more vapid, etc. than other girls. That's because they usually don't have to be interesting, or intelligent, or coherent... they just have to look good. As one of my good friends said about Jessica Simpson... "I don't care if she doesn't know the difference between chicken and tuna. All she has to know is how to smile and bob her head."

 

[WatchMeWalk]

Good looks do not correlate with sexual assertiveness. Positive reinforcement does.

This is why so many HBs have a "binge & purge" mentality towards sex. There often as repressed as we are.

 

[HuuBinh]

If a HB8 or HB9, has been dumped or cheated on a few times, her vanity and arrogance should be diminished as she realizes, if she mainly chased guys who are "high flyers", that men ALSO have other options and are not enamored by beauty.

that is very unrealistic imo, hb8 and 9 are usually the ones who do the dumping & cheating on their bfs, and guys chase after them, not the other way.