Are American men who date foreign women creeps & misogynists?

[MatureDJ]

Evidently, this woman thinks so

http://jezebel.com/5874834/meet-the-webs-weirdest-authority-on-american-women-asian-men-and-ufos

... plenty of misogynists have already advanced the theory that American women are entitled shrews and foreign women are beautiful ultra-feminine helpmeets who want nothing more than to cater to a man's every need.

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... many of them do tell stories of rejection by American women, and of the ultimate realization that, in the words of one poster, "it is the American Women who are difficient." ... it's a peek into how the seeds of discontent grow into a giant, creepy misogyny tree.

I like to date Eastern European women. Does this make me a creep?

One of the commenters seems to think that standard DJ activity is that of an "inveterate horn dog" ...

But he's an inveterate horn dog. He gives every girl walking down the street his special "How YOU doin'?" stare, and will hit up and try to get the phone number of any girl that smiles back at him. He's now 40 years old, but he's never dated a girl beyond her mid-twenties. He's also never been in a relationship longer than several months. He also only interacts with women if 1) he's trying to sleep with them, or 2) it's beyond his control. He doesn't take real women seriously. He might refer to and take seriously women in the news or politics (especially if they're living in a particular societal strata that he will never have access to). but when it comes to real people that he actually has to deal with, he's got nothing to say to them.

 

[st_99]

i dont trust women who use the word 'creepy' unless they are referring to a horror movie they just watched on netflix.

I think they are either fat and undesirable or have some kind of mental sexual dysfunction. usually the former.

 

[Griever114]

I think they are either fat and undesirable or have some kind of mental sexual dysfunction. usually the former.

Most likely, or a woman that got called out for being a b1tch and got dropped. Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot huh?

Imho, this country has gone to $h!t. Everyone has a sense of entitlement and womecomplain about 'fair' treatment but when they get called out on something its the mans fault and is a misogynist.

I defer the rest of my comment to sonething i read here:

"Women can an dWILL find 10000000 ways to rationalize they are right even when they are wrong.

Persinal story, i was seeing a girl for 2 months. AFC at the time but it was working. I go on vacation, she goes silent for a week after i come back. I call her, she tells me she slept with someone else while i was gone. Shr apparently missed me so much and sa AND I QUOTE "its your fault. I missed you so much."

Case closed.

 

[Mr.Positive]

A lot of women just don't seem to get it, and throw blame and shaming tactics as a self boosting mechanism.

Let's look at the reality of it. At 38, women that wouldn't give me the time of day 10 years ago, are interested. My 'value' has increased over time.

So, let's go back 10 years...if I married some foreign hottie and was in a happy marriage. Some of these same women would hate me for it today. It makes no sense.

It's like some people don't want anyone to pursue their own happiness. Collectively, things just balance out. If 90% of women want to chase 10% of the top men, they should expect the other guys, not at the top, to pursue other options.

It's like an employer turning you down for a job, and getting pissed when you go out and get another job..especially if it's a better job.

I really think some of these women are bitter, not at men, but just at reality. They can't face facts, and divert that negative energy off of themselves, onto others.

Anyway, don't even worry about it. There's plenty of women out there that are not miserable.

 

[Borknagar]

Shes just mad because a lot of men are starting to realize that they are beautiful out there without the all to common negative American women stereotypes. My experiences with dating foreign women is limited but ever since I've got into the "pickup scene" I have met, got numbers, went on dates with a insane amount of women. And the one that really sticks out ahead of the rest has been a Turkish women. We dated for a month, but then I got worried I'd fall for her cause she was so sweet, and totally unlike the trash we have that was raised here. She was only here on a temporary visa and wasn't looking to stay forever so I kinda had to dip out. I kinda feel bad cause who really knows what could have been.

I would also mention she was much more physically attractive than most of the others I met as well.

Also should mention when I was very new to "the game" I met a Russian women and was still a bit timid about escalating, and was unsure of myself and cultural differences, we had a nice casual date sharing laughs, and a few days later send me a nice happy birthday etc etc text, something that most women could care less about doing. Wish I would have kept contact with her too.

I also signed up for a Russian facebook clone, first women I messaged on there was about 20 miles away and seemed very friendly. Do that to the average facebook chick and she'll be turned off and freaked out by me having the audacity to message her highness.

 

[MatureDJ]

I also signed up for a Russian facebook clone ...

vkontakte.ru ?

 

[mrRuckus]

What's the misogyny part? Men are clearly going off and loving the foreign women. How does one hate women by loving them?

I don't hate women. I hate masculine, fat, and complaining shrews.

 

[Borknagar]

vkontakte.ru ?

yup, lol someone posted it here awhile back, it's kinda dead there though, at least for the ones who signed up, but live in the US

 

[Mr.Positive]

What's the misogyny part? Men are clearly going off and loving the foreign women. How does one hate women by loving them?

I don't hate women. I hate masculine, fat, and complaining shrews.

Haha, good point. I think the masculine, fat, complaining shrews feel that you must only love them, even if they aren't interested in you. Makes no sense to me, other than trying to enslave men by limited our options. Maybe they would rather us sit around and be miserable with them, who knows.

Anyway, I'm starting to see a Russian gal. She's been in the states for 10 years, but still has that accent that I just find very sexy.

 

[ilikecharlene]

Insecurity/jealousy.

why is it so wrong to date a foreign woman? lol...

 

[Zarky]

MatureDJ, and I don't mean any disrespect by this, but what's with the endless random question threads on the Mature forum? Do you work for Sosuave or something to drum up pageviews? I don't understand.

 

[demezel]

being a foreign guy, living in American women are a big disappointment for me. Sure there are hotties but i have never seen so many fat women at the same time in my life. when i am at school 8 out of 10 chicks I see are fat and believe they are the best pvssy on this planet. Where I am from 2 out of 10 chicks were fat and by fat i meant just a little bit of extra pounds here and there. Never a stomack that is about to hit the floor when she walks, god i am disgusted

 

[DJDamage]

Women are the TRUE misogynists.

Yep.

A woman can hate another woman just by looking at her. Every woman had at least 1 girlfriend whom she claim backstab her in the back.

Its better to be called a misogynist then being labeled a "nice guy".

Here is your typical American women right over here:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&set=a.114486150823.111516.33674555823&type=1

Embrace this men!!! or you are a misogynist!!!! hehehe

 

[sodbuster]

WOMEN are just denying there is a problem...the "customers" don't want to buy their "product"...so there must be something wrong with the customer. Didn't we see this play out with the auto industry in the 70's?

 

[Buddha_Mind]

women ALWAYS find some reason to complain about men dating other women. The reason, simply, is

Women are the TRUE misogynists.

They hurl insults, use the C-word, cut each other down, and find any fault possible when it comes to their competition.

Man I totally have to agree with this one -- I have not had a single GF who ever did anything but slander other females to 'disarm' any of their social influence. Instead of bashing fists, a great deal of women just sh!t talk and smear an image until it can't be given any social credit.

Agh...frustrates me just thinking of countless examples of this.

So, let's go back 10 years...if I married some foreign hottie and was in a happy marriage. Some of these same women would hate me for it today. It makes no sense.

It's like some people don't want anyone to pursue their own happiness.

Of course they don't because when you are doing what YOU want to and happy and they are stuck doing a bunch of crap they really DON'T want to be doing (or in some other non-fulfilling bit) they'll be envious.

I have found nearly *every time* I've made changes for my happiness, there are people who are unsupportive. Especially some women. Because they don't want to see you soar beyond whatever limitations they've placed upon you. "I thought he was this way", and suddenly you are proving them wrong...and this can bother people.

People just love to hate it seems. Which is terrible because we all ought to love to love if that makes sense.

Anyways, my father told me a story once of a man he worked with--whom married a mexican woman and proclaimed to all of his work buddies how great it was. "She cooks every night, treats me like a King", he said. Well my father said one day the man looked out of his office window to see his car being towed away.

The mexican wife had decided she didn't like to play this game anymore and cleared out the whole house that day. Had the car towed, because her name had been on the lease or some other legal document.

So my father cautioned me against thinking of any 'easy way out'. Hehe. Or 'safe gamble'.

There are likely major cultural differences in the expectations of male-female relationships between the US and other places...but there are so many variables here..I could ramble on..but how do you know a foreign woman isn't going to absorb american values over time and become what you do not value? In the case of the story with my father's work friend, I believe that man didn't treat her all that well--maybe her culture trained her to be a 'respectful' wife of certain skills..but maybe he was a lazy @ss who didn't do much and expected a great deal...I would say expecting a woman to have her end of the bargain in a relationship is one thing, assuming you are respecting yours...in some ways some men are just looking for an easy wife who will clean and cook and take care of your @ss and give you a stream of sex...but this is entirely lazy and even a foreign woman who is not very smart might not dig this situation for very long...we've got to earn what we have, eh?

/my $0.02cents.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

WOMEN are just denying there is a problem...the "customers" don't want to buy their "product"...so there must be something wrong with the customer. Didn't we see this play out with the auto industry in the 70's?

Nobody wants their product because what is it that they offer?

I look at the average woman in my generation and what does she have to offer?

I'm not trying to be a di.ck here.

But if we were to think of a relationship as two individuals getting together and bringing something to the table--what does the average 20-something-year-old chick have?

For myself, most of my experience is these chicks are so bent on establishing their own careers, or self-goals, that they'll burn you in their trails and leave only dust son, what's the point--why be a wife or a mother, how burdensome and nagging and expensive. In some ways I don't blame them. In other ways, well, what do we blame for the difficulty in finding women to "settle on down with" when we are in a society that breeds hyper-individuality or equality of the sexes?

Isn't there some usefulness and in recognizing that as sexes we have different roles? We could learn to foster these roles?

But these women have no interest in being good mothers, or good caretakers. So why do we get upset when we look at the average american woman in that age group and expect any different?

In a lot of cultures a woman's value is in her child-raising or the status of her husband--that is how she wedges her social worth. Our society honestly that is still a valid way (ever see the soccer mom's battle with one another to be the better or stronger mother/family woman?) -- but more so than not those expectations of defined value aren't forced on the average american woman to gather her worth.

In some ways I look at the average man in my generation also. Okay--honestly, let's be totally honest--a lot of these dudes too aren't bringing much. We're saturated in video games or other stupid things and we're not out there chopping wood or building homes or hunting elk and smoking its meat and building shelter.

Sometimes I honestly think this whole MaterialWay of sh!t just drains us humans out of so many things...we even lose sight of our natural ability to define ourselves as males and men and feel that on the inside. We are raised in cubicles and with nintendos and how to operate a remote control or video game controller over how to grow a garden or cut down a tree and make it into something useful.

Maybe we are just making crap on both ends.

What's the real catalyst in the struggles of the sexes?

 

[Mr.Positive]

Maybe we are just making crap on both ends.

What's the real catalyst in the struggles of the sexes?

Pretty great post there, Buddha. I think the real catalyst of the struggle is that both masculinity and femininity are both shunned in society, and people often lose their identities.

For example, while a guy might be out hunting elk, chopping wood etc. How many women are attracted to guys wearing cammos and holding guns? Not many, so that guy, out providing....literally bringing home meat to feed his loved ones...he sees the hot babe get into the shiny sports car of some other guy, and not look his way. He feels devalued.

Conversely, women are so pushed to drop their feminine nature, and try and succeed in the workplace, their own femininity is being lost in the process. Their innate nature of caring, and nurturing, is tossed aside to get ahead. Women can't turn work 'off' at the end of the day, they bring it home with them.

The best thing we can do, is embrace our masculinity to the fullest. Furthermore, encourage the women we choose to embrace their femininity. Allow them to release it, when they are around you, through desire. It's a wonderful thing and she'll love you for it.

Society pushes androgyny, not individuality. Everything is balance, the most masculine man is the best fit for the most feminine woman. Androgyny pairs together as well.

 

[Burroughs]

Society pushes androgyny, not individuality. Everything is balance, the most masculine man is the best fit for the most feminine woman. Androgyny pairs together as well.

Well worker bees are normally drones so...

When you strip men and women of anything they hold culturally and historically they become empty vessels to be filled with whatever trite and misleading messages a powerful force can conjure...

If you want to create a world of slaves the best way is to strip their minds of anything they hold dear...make it so they are unable to use tools (check), nurture children (check), fix a car (check), cook (check), show compassion (check).

Humanity needs to take a good look in the mirror and realize the road the elites are dragging us and decide if its a destination we really want to go.

of course some don't believe that elites exist...but then the question becomes did the world as we know it become this way as an accident?

 

[Nutz]

Evidently, this woman thinks so

http://jezebel.com/5874834/meet-the-webs-weirdest-authority-on-american-women-asian-men-and-ufos



I like to date Eastern European women. Does this make me a creep?

One of the commenters seems to think that standard DJ activity is that of an "inveterate horn dog" ...

Someone has sour grapes. /thread

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

WOMEN are just denying there is a problem...the "customers" don't want to buy their "product"...so there must be something wrong with the customer. Didn't we see this play out with the auto industry in the 70's?

Yes. But now my generation is living through the 70's all over again, thank you Jimmy Carter Part Deux.