Anyone had success with letting women initiate affection?

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So.. Nothing grinds my gears like when I go for a kiss and a female turns her head or doesn't reciprocate. It's like after that I feel slighted and I just want you to go away.

It's not coming from a insecure mindset it's more like..
"who does this chick think she is to not reciprocate my kiss.. Im the f'n man"
So yeah it kills my vibe.

Or if I have to work too hard for sex.. Like she keeps acting retarded like she don't want it just as bad as I do..
.. So I wonder..

Anyone had success with letting the woman initiate all affection? I just think with me and my entitlement mindset maybe it's best for me?
All advice appreciated
 

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And why do you have that mindset? That "I'm the fvcking man"

It's simply because your ego thinks that if it acts that way it will get any woman. But in the truth, this ego is so desperate over women that it has to act certain way to get women.

And this reaction just proved that your ego got stepped over.
 
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There are very few people on this earth who think they're "the man". The truth is you're telling yourself you're the man, in the hopes that maybe one day you'll believe it.

The girl is sensing your dichotomy, and is reacting to it. All girls are insane, this is a known fact, and they look to men for the grounding, the sense of stability. So when they sense someone is as unstable as they...they move on.

Remember this, ALL girls have options, because men are not as picky as women. The answer to your problem is this, realise that you're not the man, kill your ego, seek mental stability, i.e. stability in your personality and sense of self, then stop chasing tail. Real men do not go "out on the pull", they attract their options, and sift through the chaff to find the wheat.
 

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Who doesn't think they r the man? And what's wrong with that mindset? I don't think I'm superior to any man, but I know I'm also not beneath any man.. And I don't go out to pull chicks, I don't go out at all actually..
 

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I guess what I want to say is I want to be a lady hero...
When I'm dating someone I want them to hold me in very high esteem..
Is Aladdin tried to kiss jasmine I'd doubt she would turn her ****ing head..
Or bond tried to kiss a bond girl or superman trying to kiss lois..
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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BraddH said:
And why do you have that mindset? That "I'm the fvcking man"

It's simply because your ego thinks that if it acts that way it will get any woman. But in the truth, this ego is so desperate over women that it has to act certain way to get women.

And this reaction just proved that your ego got stepped over.
That mindset of him "Being the prize" Is a true rarity

This mindset is neither narcissistic or having an inflated ego. This mindset separate the average man from an amazing one. He knows he is a great catch and therefore is isn't desperate for any chick, He knows he is capable of getting any chick and therefore he eliminates signs of desperation nor placing women above him and assuming they would take action. He places dreams above women. If women would almost frequently approach, why would this site even exist.

It is the true mindset of a Don Juan.

I can't explain the whole thing well enough, read the first few posts of the DJ Bible yourself >_<
 

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cola said:
So.. Nothing grinds my gears like when I go for a kiss and a female turns her head or doesn't reciprocate. It's like after that I feel slighted and I just want you to go away.

It's not coming from a insecure mindset it's more like..
"who does this chick think she is to not reciprocate my kiss.. Im the f'n man"
So yeah it kills my vibe.

Or if I have to work too hard for sex.. Like she keeps acting retarded like she don't want it just as bad as I do..
.. So I wonder..

Anyone had success with letting the woman initiate all affection? I just think with me and my entitlement mindset maybe it's best for me?
All advice appreciated




I guess what I want to say is I want to be a lady hero...
When I'm dating someone I want them to hold me in very high esteem..
Is Aladdin tried to kiss jasmine I'd doubt she would turn her ****ing head..
Or bond tried to kiss a bond girl or superman trying to kiss lois..
A man who truly knows his own worth has no need to seek validation from others, as he is unaffected by the opinions of others.
 

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I think that it is (or can be) a woman's job to show a man she's interested. Hence why the 80-20 rule states women should be doing 80% of the chasing. However in terms of intimacy, affection, escalating, or making a move, I think it's up to the guy. If she shows signs of interest and begins the 'chase' then that basically gives the guy a green light to make a move, or at least attempt to. If a woman is interested in you and you fail to make a move, she will lose interest fast. She will see you as a coward who's too scared to take what he wants when really she wanted to be fvcked senseless but is too afraid to say it straight up so is hoping that you, as a man, take the initiative instead. And if you don't make a move when she puts herself in an extremely easy position for you to do so, she will lose respect fast and you'll be lucky to have a second chance.

I've had girls do almost all the chasing, but I'll be the first one to make a move when the time is right. So she can initiate the interest and pursuit, contact me first, invite me over to her place, suggest a movie, etc. But then when the movie time actually comes I'll be the first one to escalate and make a move. So basically she can set everything up and I don't have to do anything other than just go for it. And in your gut you know it's a 98% success rate because a chick would never invite a guy over 1 on 1 for a movie night unless she wants to fvck him. And she expects you to know this, and you should.

It's a win win situation because it takes literally no effort at all and you get what you want out of it anyway. Of course this only works if a girl has very high IL, otherwise you will likely have to work a little harder for it. BUT she should still always be the one who is doing most of the chasing. She can and should be initiating the chase, but it's up to you to seal the deal.

If you have to wait for a girl to make a move on you first because you're too scared to kiss her then you're just a pu**y, and in that sense it's not okay to let her initiate all the affection. On the other hand, if you're constantly being turned down for sex for a myriad of BS reasons and she won't put out, then it's likely her interest level is rock bottom and she's an attention wh0re who's just using you for validation.
 

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BraddH said:
And why do you have that mindset? That "I'm the fvcking man"

It's simply because your ego thinks that if it acts that way it will get any woman. But in the truth, this ego is so desperate over women that it has to act certain way to get women.

And this reaction just proved that your ego got stepped over.
Wrong. A man knows he's the "fvcking man" because he is.

We all know you have the lowest self esteem on these boards so no need to bring others down to your level. Pathetic.
 

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El Payaso said:
Wrong. A man knows he's the "fvcking man" because he is.
Good for him. But keep in mind that any woman may disagree. You can't sue somebody about not falling for your SMV.
 
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