Anyone else live in nowheresville?

[rhcp83]

I get the impression a lot of guys on here live in California, Florida, a big city or something.

Where I live, there aren't that many attractive women to begin with and women regardless of looks don't take well to strangers in general.

Moving is an option, but not going to help me at the moment. Vacation, same thing...saving up for the summer...doesn't help me at the moment.

The few women I've dated (that were any good) 2 were facebook women that I reconnected with, one was okcupid...one of those rare, well written, genuine profiles and the woman wasn't too bad looking and we lived 10 minutes away from each other.

What's frustrating is I've shown my pics on here, while I'm not drop dead gorgeous, I'm above average looking/exercise, and when I've been on vacations in friendlier/warmer climate areas, I've had much more success talking to random women, better looking than the stuck up local ones that think they sh1t ice cream.


Enough complaining, though. I'm wondering how guys in a similar situation deal with it and find a way to meet women.

Like I said, I WILL be moving in the near future, also plan to take a vacation before then, but am looking to get laid with a 6 plus in the next month or two.

 

[backbreaker]

this is a good post

i will say this.. i did not understand how big of a factor this was... until my mid 20's. i grew up in little rock.. not a small city but not a huge metroplitan area. about 500k people give or take. you go out a few times yo pretty much see everyone eventually.

and i mean, i had learned how to manufacturer dates with attractive women just out of sheer determination. plus, i am a pretty good quality guy.


but i did not realize, honestly just what i brought to the table as far as the opposite sex until I moved to Del Mar, CA / San Diego. I did not understand my true earning power so to speak. within DAYS of moving i was going on dates with girls that were whole points hotter than women i was seeing in little rock. i had girls looking at me giving me strong "come talk to me" vibes that wouldn't give me the time of day in little rock. i moved tuesday and had a date friday and one sunday.

then, it really hit home, lol, when I came back home to visit. I was like F this lol. going out and these dressed up 6's having guys on their jocks like they are hot ****. when my wife comes with me back to little rock and we go out she turns heads every time and is usually the best looking women anywhere we go. and she's very very attractive, but in LA where we live now, I don't want to say she's avg but she doesn't stick out as just being uber hotter than anything else on the scene. but **** guys ig.n little rock look at her like she's an alien or something.


it wokred to me favor because by the tim4e i moved to san Diego i had long abolished any fear of approaching a woman, and wqithin months I had freaking 5 course meals full of plates. but at the same time, like.. hell my wife practically begged me to come talk to her and well.. shes pretty damn hot if I may so myself. i mean, good looking women basically saying "hey i wish that guy would come tlak to me" where as in little rock, you are competing for very avg girls. it throws the game out of wack. I thought my oneitis was smoking hot.. land she sitll is honestly... the girl that bought me here, but there are about 5,000 of her in la.

lol it's always the girls talking about how they hate the big city. wonder why. also, i'm from the south and while I talk professionally i have a pretty t hick southern accent that still has not really gone away.. they eat that **** up. it's funny beucase i love my wife's acceent (British) and she loves my accent. we like listening to each other talk and it's wired beucase i mean, i'm just talking and i can go home and no one gives a **** but you go out to a date to red lobster and and you have a girl hanging on your evy word while you are trying to decide on what type of shrimp to eat.

 

[rhcp83]

A similar thing happened to me when I was in Florida and Virginia Beach. Women weren't all over me or anything, but it was very, very easy to talk to them and for them to open up. I don't even have great game. I'm very outgoing, don't give a crap (I'm the type of person that will go in the middle of a group of 5 girls dancing and dance with all 5) but game wise I'm not smooth at all, yet I talked/chilled with more quality inside and out women that I had most of my life before then, just on an 11 day vacation.

Here, you get 6/7s that because they dress up fancy and have a tattoo think they're a 10.

I'm really just trying to get laid just once with someone reasonably my type lookswise until the move happens (some things holding it up at the moment.)

I mean, I went on a date two weeks ago with a girl my type lookswise...kissed at the end...she turned out to be a psycho (one of those raped women who takes self defense classes, girl power, feminist types that thinks all men are out to get her)...no problem, moved on from her, but now have nowhere else to go and stuck just looking at porn again.

(I met her like I said on facebook. We went to school together and decided to go out for drinks.)

You cold approach women here though, you'd think you were approaching Salma Hayek...they look at you as if they're so much better than you (even my "better looking" friends with more game)...since it's a total sausagefest, you see most decent looking women with douchebag types or super good looking guys.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Sorry to be a d!ck, but I just can't sympathize with someone saying they're not doing well with women because of where they live. I grew up in nowheresville, then lived in Tampa seven years and also Macon Georgia for a couple. Then I moved back home. I've never lacked for opportunities or felt like I was doomed due to my location. I concede that the median hotness of the female population will vary by locale, but that is no excuse for any one guy to do poorly.

After high school, a buddy of mine, just another dorky partying kid, moved to Crosset, Arkansas. It's a smelly armpit paper mill town of 5,000. It makes Little Rock look like NYC. There he married a stunningly beautiful preacher's daughter, ended up divorcing her, and married one of her friends who was equally beautiful. Both of them had bodies that looked fake because they were too good to be true. The accent killed it for me, though.

Isn't there a community college or university near you? Go take a class. No matter where you live, there is a sweet young thing who is just about to cross the legal age of consent :rockon:

 

[bigneil]

Based on my living in 6 states and traveling through 39 for business, I have found that the city you are in makes nearly all the difference. Bible Belt may have found several similar locales but I've found FL and TX to be the extremes (though I liked Tampa and scored in each of 2 nights there).

It's all based on the local supply and demand of men and women, and the male/female ratio. Also essential is to be in an area where there are jobs. Try scoring in a retirement community.

* In Florida, an 8 acts like she's a 10 (you need to add 2 points to their rating).
* In Texas, a 10 acts like an 8 (you can take 2 points off).

That's a 4 point swing. So it's as easy to get a 9 in Texas as it is to get a 5 in Florida (they both act like the 7's I dated in MA, NH, NJ and WA). And I lived in both FL and TX twice, moving back and forth.

Hence, I dumped my 47 year old FL girl for a 19 year old TX girl within 4 weeks of arriving.

 

[Packers2010]

It's all based on the local supply and demand of men and women, and the male/female ratio. Also essential is to be in an area where there are jobs. Try scoring in a retirement community.

i live here

http://www.welshicons.org.uk/html/ferryside.php

check out the link, it says i DO live in a retirement community. sure it's crappy, but i don't blame my location. I blame myself, for not having better game

 

[Zodiac]

Based on my living in 6 states and traveling through 39 for business, I have found that the city you are in makes nearly all the difference. Bible Belt may have found several similar locales but I've found FL and TX to be the extremes (though I liked Tampa and scored in each of 2 nights there).

It's all based on the local supply and demand of men and women, and the male/female ratio. Also essential is to be in an area where there are jobs. Try scoring in a retirement community.

* In Florida, an 8 acts like she's a 10 (you need to add 2 points to their rating).
* In Texas, a 10 acts like an 8 (you can take 2 points off).

That's a 4 point swing. So it's as easy to get a 9 in Texas as it is to get a 5 in Florida (they both act like the 7's I dated in MA, NH, NJ and WA). And I lived in both FL and TX twice, moving back and forth.

Hence, I dumped my 47 year old FL girl for a 19 year old TX girl within 4 weeks of arriving.

Eh it all depends on the attitude. I came from a New England college town, Maine in particular, and the women there are all high and mighty.. even more so than the women I've met in Florida. Hell in Florida I've gotten some play almost every time I've tried vs. in Maine where my strike out average was 1/3rd my attempts (Here it's like 1/7 times.)

But I do agree about Texas women: I've met a cute Asian when I was doing some training. She as a 9 but I treated her like a 6 and she pretty much loved every moment of it. Seems like in Texas they either have low self-esteem, standards are way lower for the women or they tend to like the out of towners more than the people residing in the bible belt (For reasons I'm betting you all can guess.)

Its all about game playa. :rockon:

 

[Leopold]

FLORIDA WOHOOOO!!!!
Tampa girls play hard to get :/ Too many stuck up airheads.

 

[zekko]

I can understand the idea that there are more attractive women in the big city, but wouldn't there also be more high value guys there to swoop them up? I've always heard the hottest girls go to the big cities because that's where the highest paid men are. That makes sense but that also implies there are more high value men as well. So I don't see where there would be any change in ratio.

Now maybe all the high value men just pass all the hot chicks around among themselves. This could be true because most of the hot girls I've known that came from big cities were major plate spinners.

 

[bigneil]

I blame myself, for not having better game

Rule #1 is never to take rejection personally.

Based on my experience, the city you are in makes a big difference.

 

[timmylivingalie]

Its even worse where I live very few single women and alot of competition from the other dudes.

 

[rhcp83]

I came from a New England college town, Maine in particular, and the women there are all high and mighty

Exactly, I'm from New England, same thing. Here's a story...I'm a good person, so some woman was walking into the place I was leaving, so I leave the door open for her, and I wasn't "waiting for her for a long time"...she walks fast with her head down, does not say thank or you anything, just walks in there with some snobby look. She was just some overdressed black girl that thought she was a 10.

You can't fish in an empty pond. Like I said, it really is on me to move, but I consider it no coincedence that I was meeting better looking and more importantly nicer women outside of my area.

Money is just an issue right now but I'm saving up. Not just for women...hate the area in general and want to move anyway.

It just doesn't help me in the meantime.

Biblebelt...I appreciate your sentiment...but you yourself have admitted to openly banging UGs/fatties etc. (Not to mention even the UGs/fatties here are snobby anyway.)

 

[bigneil]

I'm from New England three. Women there are pretty straightforward. If they don't like you, they don't talk to you. If you get a phone number, they call/text back. In other places like WA, CA and FL they are friendlier but won't necessarily remember who you are when you call. In TX they know how to treat (and appreciate) a good man.

 

[Zerro]

The issue I have is that while I live fairly close to Chicago it seems that nearly every woman whom I actually connect with lives somewhere in the middle of nowhere, an hour or so away from me. It's rather frustrating that while there is no shortage of women around here the interesting ones are never close by.

*shrug*

 

[backbreaker]

It's in the middle. It's not the end all be all of why you are not getting any but at the same time, you are kidding yourself if you think that it does not matter.

I can understand the idea that there are more attractive women in the big city, but wouldn't there also be more high value guys there to swoop them up? I've always heard the hottest girls go to the big cities because that's where the highest paid men are. That makes sense but that also implies there are more high value men as well. So I don't see where there would be any change in ratio.

Now maybe all the high value men just pass all the hot chicks around among themselves. This could be true because most of the hot girls I've known that came from big cities were major plate spinners.

the problem is when you actually sit down and look at it, like, take little rock. little rock, is not a city that single people are just flocking too. lol if you are in little rock and grown, it's one of three reasons


1. you can't afford to move
2. your job has you based in little rock
3. you have kids


so what i mean is, you just can't match up raw numbers and say a man for a man a woman for a woman. all/most of the single attractive eligable women, who can afford to leave have already flown the coop for someowhere more vibrant. like seriously, i have more family in California than I have in arknasas and my entire family was born and raised in arknasas I BS you not. hell we had thanksgiving dinner in Englewood last year we had so many people from our family here. no one wants to live in arknasas. the only one back home are my mom who has my sistyer and isnt' goign to up root and her sister who has her daughters kids.

so say you are one of those guys whose job called you to come to littler ock. yoy are making 70k a year, you are not doing half b ad. but all the women are either ugly, or married. the few that are left are just prickes beucdase they can be. dudes kiss their ass everywhere they go.


so now you, despite the fact that you are by all means, a pretty decent catch. you make good money, you aren't ugly,l you have a future.. all the true dimes are taken.. for the most part. so you are having to stoop down to 6's and 7's.. which I mean, is n't horrible but 6's and 7's act like 9's do in LA, and they have just as many men on their jock s 9's do i n LA.

note what I mean by, more selective is... the women there, the ones who can pick and chose are just so damn picky. Not that they are elitist or anything but the smoking hot ones, ltheir criteria is just so god damn long and they are so selective, you have to come from the right family and you have to come frpomp this and you have to major in that.. whereas you move to a city like LA and you will pick yourself single with that ****. lol we don't have time for that type of crap here. you find someone that you like and hold on tight dammit. It's just like when i was in little rock, I rarely just saw a single attractive female. it didn't work like that. she was branch swiining somehow because she could. the smaller the circle of women the more they have to chose from the more security they have. in LA i won't even bother with a woman who has a B F or a relationship because there are tens of thousands of single hot women around here.


It's not so much in the population as the purpose of the city if that makes sense. Little Rock is a working man's city, it's not a palce where single people flock to. On the other hand, when I lived in Sarasota, on the beach, the city is about the same size as little rock and I had ZERO problem finding ass. you dudes in tampa ought to be ashamed of yourselves i got so much ass down there.

I.. i make mroe money than probably 99% of the people in this country and in little rock here I am dating a damn girl that works at dillards. I mean make no mistake she was smoking hot but still.. the **** is out of wack. hell and to get her I had to pry her ass from her EX boyfriend lol who was a freaking chemical engineer. a freaking cashier at Dillards choosing between a young successful entrepreneur and a chemical engineer. **** i would hate to even think about the roach infested ****s I'd have to consider if I were not successful.

the serious catches down there just cherry pick the guys and they cherry pick from a very very selective field.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Biblebelt...I appreciate your sentiment...but you yourself have admitted to openly banging UGs/fatties etc.

Blowj0bs don't count! :nono:

Seriously, though, I've almost always had a hb7+ girlfriend, regardless of where I live. And I've hardly ever had money. Another thing I've never done is count ratios of men to women and use it as an excuse. In college I was in ROTC, which was about 20 men to every one woman, and I still fvcked Army girls. But then again, I was never convinced I was going to fail before I started.

If your excuse for not dating a HB10 supermodel is that you live in Nebraska, I could see that as legitimate. All the models are in NYC and LA, so that makes sense. But there are still hot girls everywhere, even Nebraska. If you're saying you can't do well with women because of where you live, then you might as well blame your height, race, income, whatever. It doesn't matter, it's all the same bullsh!t excuse.

And like I said, sorry to be a d!ck. I just want you to get over your defeatist thinking. That's what is keeping you down, not your location.

 

[backbreaker]

Blowj0bs don't count! :nono:

Seriously, though, I've almost always had a hb7+ girlfriend, regardless of where I live. And I've hardly ever had money. Another thing I've never done is count ratios of men to women and use it as an excuse. In college I was in ROTC, which was about 20 men to every one woman, and I still fvcked Army girls. But then again, I was never convinced I was going to fail before I started.

If your excuse for not dating a HB10 supermodel is that you live in Nebraska, I could see that as legitimate. All the models are in NYC and LA, so that makes sense. But there are still hot girls everywhere, even Nebraska. If you're saying you can't do well with women because of where you live, then you might as well blame your height, race, income, whatever. It doesn't matter, it's all the same bullsh!t excuse.

And like I said, sorry to be a d!ck. I just want you to get over your defeatist thinking. That's what is keeping you down, not your location.

I mean, "well" is subjective. I fvcked women in litttle rock. lots of women actually. lot's of pretty attractive women. I'm not saying it can't be done Im' saying your game has to be that much more on point and there is less room for lee way. it's just like when I went down to watch Arkansas play Arizona state in the college world series game in Tempe, Arizona about a year and a half ago or 2 years ago and I saw all these dweeb dorks with Courtney Simpson cloned HB 9.5 knockouts on their arm. I'm saying if you took half those dudes and put them in little rock they would be dating cannon fodder mo st likely or at the very least nothing as near as attractive as what they had on their arms their, these dudes had no clue what they are doing they are just at the right place at the right time.

IF anything, you should use being in a small area to your advantage and use it as a battle ground before yo move to a big city. when I moved to San Diego these girls had no chance lol. my game was so honed in by that time becuase of what I had to do, the amount of rejections I had to face to get what I wanted, etc

in other words, a guy who is in say..... macon, GA.. who is not having the luck he wants.. his game might not be as bad as he thinks it is.. and a dude that lives in san diego who is macking HB8's, his game might not be as tight as he really thinks it is. you have to kinda give a grading curve.. I doubt I would be for instance.. in the shape I am in now if I grew up out here in LA where they were HB9's everywhere you looked. I got in that shape because I had to be at my best to get what I wanted with the little pool of women. I had to be at the top.

 

[Burroughs]

BB you don't find the LA scene to be skewed towards successful entertainment industry players...although you are right about the abundance of 8-9

On my trips to LA I noticed that there are so many 9-10 hbs in LA that the players get the 10+ es leaving the 9s sh!t out of luck. I visited LA to sign a record contract with my band. Our lawyer at the time was a heavy hitter. We visited some of the sunset blvd clubs...the girls knew the lawyer, knew that if we were with him we were either paid or about to be paid...it was hilarious! They were like bees on fvcking honeycomb..and they were all 10s....next to them were fvcking pornstar looking 8 chicks who were getting NOTHING.

 

[backbreaker]

BB you don't find the LA scene to be skewed towards successful entertainment industry players...although you are right about the abundance of 8-9

On my trips to LA I noticed that there are so many 9-10 hbs in LA that the players get the 10+ es leaving the 9s sh!t out of luck. I visited LA to sign a record contract with my band. Our lawyer at the time was a heavy hitter. We visited some of the sunset blvd clubs...the girls knew the lawyer, knew that if we were with him we were either paid or about to be paid...it was hilarious! They were like bees on fvcking honeycomb..and they were all 10s....next to them were fvcking pornstar looking 8 chicks who were getting NOTHING.

like, in my wife's circle of friends,there are some decent looking ones in there. 2 in particular are actually pretty attractive. both are single and can't keep a man to save their lives. all they do is complain about how they can't find a man but if we were back where I am front they would both BEEN locked up lol with the quickness. easily..7's. not ugly whatsoever.

when i first got here i was just.. it took me a while to get used to women just.. being single. it just dosn't happen where i am from at least not that caliber of woman.

with that said, it's no excuse and you shoudl not run to a big city in hopes of getting ass. growing up where i did was a blessing in disuse because it made me a better man overall and a better husband, and a better catch and I know how to deal with women, I'm used to being alone for long stretches of time.. i had to play around in double A ball before being called straight up.

becuase at the end of the day, if you can't manage a woman, you just can't manage a woman and that's all there is to it, regardless of where you live.