an experiment in online confidence... IT WORKS

[John Juan]

Hey I've had more tail falling into my lap than I can shake my stick at lately thx to the great help I've found on sosuave.com and the forums. Thanks guys!

I really hope this post doesn't come across as bragging, I just wanted to share with you all my recent 'breakthrough'

At any rate, I do the internet dating thing (meet more girls than you'll ever meet if you just rely on who you run into), and made a big step forward with the HBs!

Before, I'd write to the hot girls but never get anything back from them.. until now!

How did I get these 8s and 9s (relying on picture), who get their inboxes flooded with email from horny guys, to respond to me? Its called CONFIDENCE. Before, I'd write to these girls something along the lines of "Hey, you seem interesting, write me back if you'd like"..

Recently, I examined that email I'd usually send out for 'first contact'. Well, using my DJ vision, it didn't take long to realize that these emails came across as 'i'm not assertive, am praising you, write me back if you feel like even though there's no indication it'll be worth your time' No wonder I was only getting writebacks from the dogs and drains (no self esteem.. a common trait amongst girls who post online to meet people).

So what did I do? I injected some friggin CONFIDENCE into my opening email. My email stood out right from the bat. My subject line was always something along the lines of "<yawn> another message from (insert name of dating service)..." This piques the curiosity because I'm making fun of the fact that so many guys are usually panting for a word with these chicks. I also think its kinda a neg hit since these girls are used to seeing " HEY!" or "Hey sexy" or "this isn't a pencil in my pocket".

So after that opener, I bombard her with confidence:
".. but I'm no ordinary guy! Check me out, write me, get to know me. I'm funny, sarcastic, sexy, creative, spontaneous, honest, and smart! The total package.. I guarantee you'll have a good time around me
-JLC"

I'm making guarantees to her, showing that I have tons of worth, and the best part about it, NOT MENTIONING MY INTEREST IN HER AT ALL! It also asks her to contact me (implied) without actually saying "contact me if you'd like".

So how did this message fare? I posted it to about 20 girls I thought were 8s and 9s by their pictures last night, and I woke up this morning to 5 of them writing me stuff like:

"I have had a lot of messages from Match but I am being very picky about who I respond to._ I'd like to learn more about you."

"You sound interesting... would you like to talk on the phone??? I have no patience for email... lol...."

"...I hate to make this short, but I have to run. I look forward to hearing from you. Have a fabulous night!"

"I like most everything I read about you, especially the fact that you are outgoing, intelligent, articulate, and opionionated!!! I am all of those same adjectives, plus independent, motivated, and , um, sarcastic!!! Not to mention sassy!!"

These are the ones I'd never had ANY success in getting to write me back before, many showing high IL. It feels good to finally be broadcasting a message that displays my personality for what it is, instead of lacking confidence. Thx again to all of you out there, now for my next challenges..

to close with these girls, and work harder at applying my DJ closing skills in the real world so that I will feel comfortable hitting on any HB8+ I run into out there!

-jlc

 

[squirrels]

Hmm...although it works, I'm wondering if there's a more subtle way to demonstrate your value than coming right out and saying it. It worked for those couple though, so good on ya.

What I'm interested in seeing is how well you manage to live up to your boast when you talk over the phone/meet in person.

 

[b's nuts]

am I the only one that think the internet dating sh*t is lame?

 

[John Juan]

yeah, that's gonna be a challenge, but I think it'll be better to learn how to apply my skills with the HBs instead of girls who don't live up to my standards. Its a positive to see that they are into me at my confident best, which will be a realization when I have fully developed my DJ skills and sense of self worth.
-jlc

 

[John Juan]

Originally posted by b's nuts
am I the only one that think the internet dating sh*t is lame?

Its only lame if you aren't careful. I had a couple of times where I met girls who totally lied about themselves (no picture posted.. that should've been a sign). At least I knew how to bail out with grace at that point A lot of them have baggage. The last girl I fell for (before hitting the forums) had all kinds of issues I was trying to fix like a good little AFC. But then again, a LOT of chicks have baggage. Its easy to weed them out over email or during the coffee date.
Sometimes its even better because you can weed them out via email or over the phone before wasting any serious chunk of time hanging out with a loser. We'll see if these girls who are a lot more attractive then most I've met online are worth my time. I'm definately gonna give it a try now that I've got some DJ skills and a better sense of my worth.
-jlc

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by squirrels
Hmm...although it works, I'm wondering if there's a more subtle way to demonstrate your value than coming right out and saying it. It worked for those couple though, so good on ya.

What I'm interested in seeing is how well you manage to live up to your boast when you talk over the phone/meet in person.

Why be subtle? If it's true then say it. It sisn't sound like JJ was bragging, he was just stating who he is. He didn't say he was the best nor did he really put anyone down. The fact of the matter s that it works, so why change it?

And as for living up to the image its easy, don't profess it if it ain't true!!!! So if someone doesn't have those qualities, don't lie about it.

It's like having a woman tell you online that she's average size and when you meet she's the average size of a small pickup truck!!! Do they think that you wouldn't notice?

 

[GirlCrazy]

am I the only one that think the internet dating sh*t is lame?

No, lots of folks still think it's lame, but I'm not one of them.

Here's some of the positive aspects I see with online dating:

-- In a normal setting like a bar, you meet somebody, then you get to know them. With online dating you get to know a woman first, then decide if she's even worth meeting. It can be a great screening process if you are careful.

-- Sheer numbers. Dating is a numbers game right? You will come into contact with more women online then you will at clubs / grocery stores, etc.

-- People tend to be more open online, for whatever reason. I go out on a first date with a girl I've met through normal channels, and I don't know sh1t about her. I go out with a woman I meet online and I know her whole life story by the first date. It gives me a lot more to work with.

-- Let's face it the goal of online dating isn't to send emails or chit chat, it's to hook up in person. Once you gain experience and skill in online dating it becomes very easy to parlay that into a RL date. In fact most men are so poor at it, that for the good ones it's like shooting fish in a barrel, even if the girl is being pursued by a flock of men.

-- There's certain scenarios that work better with online dating. If you live in a small town with limited dating options. If you're old like me and you want to meet younger women. If you are well off and don't mind distance it's a great excuse to travel. If for whatever reason you simply cannot cold approach it's easier for some men to show their stuff online. I had a friend that would tell women from all over the country the following line: "Look I'm some fat ugly guy with no money and don't have anything to offer to a relationship, but if you want to fly out here and fvck me I'll let you". Every time I saw this guy he had some hot chick that was way out of his league sleeping in his apartment, and he never spent one dime on them.

-- Online dating isn't going away. Some people just need to get with the times. Most of the old school pickup artists I know have switched to online dating. They get more pvssy than a veteranary clinic on free vaccination day.