AMOGing fun!

[organizedconfusion]

i have been having alot of fun playing the AMOG for the past few weeks and it's funny how guys 'freak out' when it happens.No harm intended, i was just testing to see if they really 'got it' or not and if they did, i'd let them join in my group..After reviewing the mystery method (finally!) i just knew that there were gonna be a bunch of AFCs trying to play 'tribal leader' ..soooooo i just decided to see how far exactly they would bend...or not..

a group of me and my friends (3 girls me and my wing) at a local bar-trendy place, always packed and busy busy busy..anyways.I just abliterated them right where they stood and they walked away either really PO'd or dang near in tears:kick: call it 'gamekilling' i don't care-it's my set and i am the AMOG of the group,i wasn't mean about it..i just wanted to see where they were coming from.

these guys were clearly nervous dorks,dressed up in clown gear thanks to peacocking and were obviously trying to throw in some canned lines and opinion openers ( god bless your hearts, but i am NOT gonna make it easy on you just because you are a begginner!) -

'excuse me, do you guys think the singer David Bowie is hot?'

'dude...No we don't , what are you some kind of homo? gay bar is down the street buddy- just kidding. whats with the funny gear? is halloween running late this year?'

the guy just stood there in her red leather wanna be tyler durden fight club jacket and leopard red colored cowboy hat and faded $5 jeans- he even said 'pleasure meeting you all' and left...poor guy,he'll get it one day..just not today...

this awkward looking guy walked over,pretended to walk by us and then even did the turn around so that his feet was turing the other way and looked as if he was about to walk off at anytime (thanks TD for the trick!),pudgy looking guy,acne scared and had a permanent grin on his face which made him look like a psycho,well dressed i give him that much...

'sup guys, who lies more? men or woman?'

oh geez, not another canned opinion opener- i heard this one on the Mastery series on the DYD dvds..

'why? are you taking a survey for something?' i shot back sarcasticly..

"no , bu...' he mustered out..

'welll good! ask those guys over there , they look like they could be of some help! Anyway, i was doing about 45 then this firebreathing Camero rolls up next to me right..he revs it ...' and i go about my story ,the poor guy stood there listening and then pretended to laugh on the high points then tried to ask questions during the story..i just NEGGED him hard continuisly and then he disappeared..must've been a magic trick of sorts :moon:

to one guy,i even flat out and said it...'are you one of those wanna be 'pick up' guys?' i heard about you guys, you guys are such dorks! just kidding..but really!' :crazy: he was just like 'uuuuuuuhhhhh'

it was funny how these guys would give up soo quickly ,but i knew what was up and i could see it in them that they were nervous or anxious so i just tested the waters to see if they really knew their shyte..but almost all of them didn't have staying power or the nerves to deal with confrontation..it's not about 'fighting' or being tough, but about winning people over..and that's what i wanted to see if they could..they obviously didn't.There were a handfull of people i let into the group, but only because i knew that they were just shooting the shyte and had no real motives- a guy from the military was pretty cool..all he said was whats up,introduced himself and we all just started talking- girls were cool with him and he knew he had to get passed me in order to get into the group.Alot of the guys i let in were just regular 'cool' guys that i would hang out with anyways, just to talk cars or watch the UFC with or something,other 'alpha' type guys as you would call it.

i don't feel bad for the awkward geeks, i actually respect them for taking the guts and initiative to approach and open sets up..but i would'nt let it be a walk in the park for them:nono: they just need practice that's all...Alot of guys -other guys ,real jerks would have handled it much worse and maybe even bullied them alot more so then i did..but i just wanted to remind them that in the field..you MUST be ready for anything, especially AMOGs, i deciced to be one just to see how it was like..it's FUN! :rockon:

 

[organizedconfusion]

actually i WAS giving them a chance...a chance to deal with a real AMOG.They didn't have their shtye together and they let up way too quickly.they need practice with dealing with AMOGs as well as other obstacles, i NEGGED them playfully much like i would have any of my other friends..but they just didn't 'get it' and were completly blown out of the set.i felt bad ,but hey..i was AMOGed before and the way i dealt with it was through humor and delfecting their lines with 'better answers'..something i learned from being a wise a$$ all of my life..guess what? it works if done correctly...

this is no different then recess in school and some strange kid that you don't know tries to join in your group of friends...either you are in or you are not...

 

[flippinfreak]

Great FR(?) confucion, funny as fvck!

Perhaps you can help me out...

Reason I love AMOGing? It's useful, as it portrays a powerful mindset, "control the frame". Challenge, competition, and creativity.

With a group of friends, I can break from my set and say "watch this" sit down with a couple of girls and start chatting them up. Than, at the first possible chance to belittle ANYBODY, I use the opportunity. I 'stun my opponents you can say, and completely turn my focus onto the girl. Sometimes I turn up the AMOG power, and tell her what a **** the guy is, or how annoying her friend is... <or a desription for whatever AMOG tactic I decided to use>... and isolate her. As soon as she accepts the isolation move, I'll stand her up, and neg her for leaving her friend... In essence, I can control the frame, be the prize, isolate, and neg in a matter of a minute.

That is where I fail though. After I have isolated from the group, I have a problem isolating from the setting...

I've always seen AMOGing as portraying negative traits(as DevanE tried to point out). It destroys creativity in others, it creates an assh0le image about me, and I become easily distracted because the girl feels like she is no longer a challenge to me... as soon as she is isolated, I immediately track back on my thoughts, encounter a new set with a new frame(back to fun), and become discouraged.

Is there such thing as positive AMOGing, and how can I maintain MY interest in the girl? Reason I ask, is because after I isolate, the girls always back off and go back to their groups. My AMOG tactics don't work like they used to...

 

[flippinfreak]

actually i WAS giving them a chance...a chance to deal with a real AMOG.They didn't have their shtye together and they let up way too quickly.they need practice with dealing with AMOGs as well as other obstacles, i NEGGED them playfully much like i would have any of my other friends..but they just didn't 'get it' and were completly blown out of the set.i felt bad ,but hey..i was AMOGed before and the way i dealt with it was through humor and delfecting their lines with 'better answers'..something i learned from being a wise a$$ all of my life..guess what? it works if done correctly...

this is no different then recess in school and some strange kid that you don't know tries to join in your group of friends...either you are in or you are not...

Whenever I get the urge to help somebody out when I am with my friends, is to pull the gay AMOG. Totally hype my voice, put on the pout, and be flamboyant with my wrists. I give them a little bit of advice after I AMOG them, and see if they can create a comeback after I give them some confidence... (Don't ask me what I do afterwards, I hate teaching people how to reject making new friends)

LOL, thanks for the great view on higher group processes in High School though... what a flashback to my never good enough days

PS AMOGing on the internet is a waste of time

 

[organizedconfusion]

i don't understand why you would NEG the girl during isolation though..it's to build Comfort after the attraction process is already set.maybe i am missing something..the only time i NEG during comfort building is when i do the 'take away' after my IOI...

i AMOG to establish that 'they' (the outsider) is embarking on my group and i am the one he has to get approval from in order to get into my group..Remember in school or at the mall and you are with your friends and then some random guy tries to chat you up? feel kind of defensive and curious of what he has to say right? and how about when you approach a girl and then she kinda makes fun of you and teases you,makes you feel bad right? in most cases, some guys would leave and be like 'da helll withcha!' same type of 'screening' but different motives, i AMOG to see if the guy is cool enough to kick it with us therefore i have to see if he just wants to chat up the girls (which they do) and to see if they are worth letting in.To me ,AMOGing i do it because i want to make sure no pervs or weirdo try to get to my girls (they ARE my friends you know and I DO have a sort of responsability to keep in keeping them safe...i always been protective in that sort) it has more to do with safety of the group and maintaining the position of leadership of the group then anything else.Because when you think about it really, Mystery is teaching guys to take over groups to take YOUR girls and TD is teaching guys how to AMOG the leaders of the group..i am just counteracting it all by not allowing it in the first place. AMOGing is a positive thing, you are esentially being the guardian (so to speak) of the group.There are some places where if you approach the wrong group, i am sure someone is gonna get an a$$whoppin' and i doubt he's willing to give his opinion or if he thinks the artist david bowie in hot or not...:kick: dealing with confrontation is not just an 'alpha' thing to do on a checklist;smile,maintain eye contact,confidence,strong posture..uh, okay..after reciting those a few dozen or so times in the mirror- lets get back to reality of the situation.In real life, you must do anyways (as a guy ) if you have females with you..you have to be willing to deal with confrontations and keeping the girls safe.To simplify AMOGing, YOU are the one that keeps everyone 'safe' , sounds silly- but imagine being the 'father' of the group and protecting eveyone..that is in essence what a 'true alpha' does..anytime someone else enters the group,be wary of this and keep this in mind...

the game is now teaching guys to take over your groups..remember that- your girls are at stake here

 

[Phoenix_of_the_ashes]

I dont even understand what the point is, so you just went to a bar to pick on dorks?

 

[speedo_meme]

I guess he has to get his rocks off at other's expense. You weren't out-alpha-ing anyone. You could get away with that sh1t bc you had your little group there. Guaranteed you wouldn't be saying that smart ass sh1t if you were by yourself.

The reason this site exists is to better yourself. If you have to degrade other guys to do that then you've got your own problems to deal with.

 

[Furax]

'sup guys, who lies more? men or woman?'

'why? are you taking a survey for something?' i shot back sarcasticly..

"actually yes, im just trying to get a good range of people. We have to ask the weirdos too" - thats what you woulda got if you had said that to me, equally as sarcastic of course

 

[S1NN3R]

i have been having alot of fun playing the AMOG for the past few weeks ................. i deciced to be one just to see how it was like..it's FUN! :rockon:

So, just to clarify before I comment, you're out with a group of your friends and doing this to guys who are trying to approach your group of friends, correct?

 

[Phoenix_of_the_ashes]

So, just to clarify before I comment, you're out with a group of your friends and doing this to guys who are trying to approach your group of friends, correct?

Yeah that wasnt so clear for me either, were these guys talking to you, your group or just the girls with you?

 

[L777]

<clap clap> you're gonna say something to the wrong guy one day and be really, really sorry.

One of my mates got bottled for looking at this guy "the wrong way" in a club let alone saying something. Luckily he was Ok but you get my point

 

[coolguy676767]

Ok it looks to me like you are taking the easy targets.....the fat guy...the horribly dressed guy.....ect. Why dont you man up and try amoging some real guys that look like a match to you apparently. I dont know you personally so it would be hard to judge you but according to your report it looks as if you probably have low self-esteem, but are smart enough to know that you have to have confidence in picking up these girls. Plus you aparently are not shy if your telling the truth about this.

However these is construed as being an ***hole in all 50 states and I do appreciate the purpose of Amoging, especially when another guy tries to jump in your set. However when you go out of your way and try and jump into another guys set then your just an ***hole.

If you don't believe me have you ever watched the best AMOG ever and that was in Good Will Hunting about 30 minutes into the movie when he enters the Harvard bar. That is what is gonna happen to you one of these days, or you are just gonna get straight up punched in the face.

Oh and last question: So apparently you think you are the master pick up artist and AMOGer, but DID YOU TAKE ANY OF THESE GIRLS HOME?

Thats what I thought, plus some of the best posters that have ever been on this site, very rarely put other people down like you did in your post.

However I do give credit where credit is due, and thats that you do have a lot of confidence and you know how important it is as well as the fact you apparently are fearless and outgoing. However if you ask me it still looks like you have some work to do.

 

[xanderbaz]

AMOGing mostly comes down to public humiliation. This is not a respectable way for a DJ. DJs usually have a more important thing to do, and that's meeting and getting women. Publicly humiliating another guy, no matter how funny-looking or dumb he is, is generally a major turn-off.

 

[coolguy676767]

AMOGing mostly comes down to public humiliation. This is not a respectable way for a DJ. DJs usually have a more important thing to do, and that's meeting and getting women. Publicly humiliating another guy, no matter how funny-looking or dumb he is, is generally a major turn-off.

Yeah definiately, thats what I was saying in my first post, its only a good thing to AMOG for 2 reasons:

1. You are already talking to a girl or your girlfriend and he tries to embarass you first
2. The guy has been talking to a girl for 20+ minutes and you know its not her b/f and she seriously looks uncomfortable.

 

[Soprano]

Yeah definiately, thats what I was saying in my first post, its only a good thing to AMOG for 2 reasons:

1. You are already talking to a girl or your girlfriend and he tries to embarass you first
2. The guy has been talking to a girl for 20+ minutes and you know its not her b/f and she seriously looks uncomfortable.

co sign

 

[seanchai]

What bar do you go to that is so full of canned PUAs? I've never come across it. And why bother AMOGing guys who are trying to pick up your friends? Were these girls you had fúcked? Why didn't you approach other girls?

 

[S1NN3R]

Yes, this type of behavior should be reserved for raising your place in a situation and representing inherent dominance, not just to break down others. There was no call for your actions, it neither secured your place in a group not did it prevent someone from insinuating himself into your alpha position. Not to mention that one of your female friends might have liked a hook-up that night, but you though you were being cool and negated any possibility of that.

You were not AMOGing, you were being an ass, and that's the kind of guy that the rest of us are so good at taking women away from.

Cheers.

 

[organizedconfusion]

okay girls ,lets not get your panties in a bundle-Thanks for moralizing and analizing something that was meant to be light hearted and fun,real smooth..no really- i am sure i'd hang out with alot of you,maybe you can also critisize my heavy drinking, street racing or any other activities i do for dangerous wreckless fun :cheer: or maybe we can further disect what AMOGing is and discuss the evolutional development of the true alpha male in the history of nature and human kind..no, really!!..nah,i'd rather game on chicks and have some fun :woo:
would you all like some cheese with your whigne? (i know i know..:crackup: )

 

[Ever onward]

That's what I'm talking about. You should have posted that stuff on my social status post.

 

[coolguy676767]

I wasn't moralizing

I was saying you act like and are an ***hole.

Oh and btw its funny how you say you would like to game on chicks yet you didnt pick any up that night....hmmm...so you would rather talk to guys and boost your self-esteem then to acutally go out there and approach yourself....

Hmm looks like we have a scrotum smoocher on our hands here guys....

that or a low self esteem guy who thinks he is cool while others are really talking behind his back and only hang out with him when its a necessity.