Americans who hate America

[Embers84]

No, what that means is that California and Oregon have millions of republican voters living there, just like the South has millions of democrat-voting welfare leeches. Imbecile.

No, what that means is there are lots of white Republicans taking advantage of assistance programs that Red States have to offer. You are the imbecile that can't read a congressional district map, and understand a Government census data that shows white conservatives getting government assistance from Red States. They are not all black Democrats like the right lies about and you believe.

If Red States were the champions of "fiscal responsibility" and always attack Liberals for assistance programs, they wouldn't offer it in their States and wouldn't be the biggest welfare queens among all the states in the union.

I guess it can't be possible that hungry white Republicans starving for food won't ask for government help when they need it. It's all black Liberals doing that according to the right wing delusion. All you right wingers have a black and white mentality that you view the world in. Liberals are all the welfare leeches according to your delusional thinking. As it turns out, many white Republicans are using food stamps and taking the welfare with all the government data there is to confirm it.

It really is amazing how tenaciously they cling to their fallacious overgeneralizations where whole US states are concerned. I'm sure there are leftists out there who think the ground in certain states is painted red and in others painted blue. I wish I could find more leftists to play poker with, they are the easiest of marks.

Remove California, NY, Ill and Mass from the country, just those four states, and what's left is not that bad, and you would never see another leftist elected as President.

You mean an easy mark like yourself?

Here you talk about "removing Blue States from the country" so there won't be a Democratic President again. And you don't think that is radical or Blue Vs Red? Another hypocrite.

It's right wingers like you, who are always putting Red States vs Blue states, Liberal vs Conservative, White vs Black, when it should be for the benefit of all Americans. You guys always need a constant division of a Them vs US. When Liberals call you guys out on it, you have no answers to back up your bogus claims, just like in this thread.

You're a low-grade Mouth-breather E.

Social Leper = Mouthbreather

Need some medication oldtimer? Always insulting people on here. That's ok, in 2 years the government can pay for your medication through Medicare. Are you going to take your Government assistance that you hate on others for?

As Democrats stonewall Republicans.

No, Democrats write legislation that the right wingers are afraid to pass to offend their base.

You do know that the way to keep a nation free the longest period of time is to keep politicians gridlocked, right?

Gridlock doesn't do anything except waste time, money, and effort. If there was constant gridlock since our country began how much progress would we have made?

And the quickest way to despotism is....well to have effectively a "King" who can make decrees at his whim.

LOL a king. Every President issued Executive Orders, that did not make them a "king". Right wingers like you hate the man, so nothing he can do you will like or find legal under the constitution when it clearly is.

We have an entire department trained to find them and remove them. They are called Homeland Security.....why do you think they were created?

Do you know how many illegals there are? More people would need to be trained and more money would need to be put into the department for it to work. It would increase the size of government and add major cost. Something the right refuses to do.

Boehner is threatening to defund it, so what good is it?

There is no need to find them all and ship them back.....we only need to find them and start imprisoning them in very harsh conditions. They will quickly find their own way home, at no cost to us.

Who is going to pay for the prisons and harsh conditions? Looks like you are aiming for a barbaric third world country type regime.

Not doing these things is costing us well over billions of dollars....even worse, it continues to make us a ripe target for even more invaders.

Wrong. Securing the borders will help and having them pay into the system as legal citizens helps out our county all around.

 

[Tictac]

Need somebody to change your diapers Embers?

Your red/blue political 'analysis' says you can't get beyond middle school debate club/6 O'clock news territory and the intellectual capacity of stale bread.

LOL

 

[Stagger Lee]

Women perform better than men at every stage of education. FACT.

So are women now intellectually superior to men?

Or are there many mitigating factors that explain the disparity in educational achievement - many of which are discussed on this very site.

The point is things are rarely black and white and virtually anyone can use facts to fit an agenda if you gloss over what may be causing those facts in the first place.

The feminists use the above fact I mentioned to promote their position without any regard for context, just as you are doing now, and in a similar fashion to you, display an impressive reluctance to acknowledge legitimate reasons for such disparities that don't support the "men bad, woman good" mantra - except in your case it is "blacks dumb and brutish, whites intelligent and industrious".



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Don't you mean white and asian women preform slightly better than males? It's not a fact that women do better than men in all educational areas. In STEM they don't. And when standardize tested, women score slightly lower and have slightly lower IQs than males, and some races do much worse than others. The testing correlates well with academic performance.This would explain the performance differences among genders and races in STEM.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Political gridlock wastes the time of your would-be subduers. It saves time, money and effort.

Yeah Embers isn't against the political gridlock when it's Democrats in the Senate blocking the House-passed DHS funding bill.

The key point here is....do you know WHY so many illegals are here?

Remove the incentive, and dis-incentivize them, and the invasion ends. It is that simple.

Again, why was the DHS built if not to protect the homeland from invaders? They are already trained to do this.

The prisons already exist, and as long as the invaders die quickly enough, there will be no overflowing prison system. The rest will flee, as invaders should do when they are defeated.

Having them pay into the system incentivizes more to come. Long-term failure. Unless your plans are of course to have the invaders keep coming? I think we know the answer to that.

The barbarians are already past the gates, and your kind, without any logical reasoning, has let them in.

The illegals certainly are invaders and colonizers, as they've always been. These same Spanish, their native allies and mestizos colonized and nearly destroyed the native peoples of what's now Mexico. Now, the Spanish ruling class in Mexico, mestizos and their US native liberal and elitist allies in the US are working to colonize the native people of the US. And we're not even suppose to resist them unlike the natives did of now Mexico. Unlike the natives in 16th century mexico, we could easily stop this colonization.

 

[BlackConvoy]

I don't hate my country. I'm also not going to lie and say that we aren't riding off the coattails of a previous generation.

 

[dasein]

You mean an easy mark like yourself?

Here you talk about "removing Blue States from the country" so there won't be a Democratic President again. And you don't think that is radical or Blue Vs Red? Another hypocrite.

My initial comment about those states was dealt with and corrected in the thread, which I imagine you know full well.

Keep blabbering on, you lost your "state-hate" argument pages ago, moron.

 

[speed dawg]

I don't hate my country. I'm also not going to lie and say that we aren't riding off the coattails of a previous generation.

Who, the baby boomers? WHAT THE F*CK

 

[zekko]

Another name for gridlock is "the system of checks and balances".

 

[Jaylan]

Typical how this thread has diverged into another example of certain butthurt white dudes complaining about minorities with all this race talk.

Im looking at the original post and just chuckling at how the usual bunch here always steers a topic in that direction. The OP was about Americans in general, and touched on Russia and Islam...yet again, we somehow end up on a freaking discussion about blacks, hispanics, race, genetics, culture, left, right etc.

And then some folks wonder why they get branded as closet stormfronters on this forum.

 

[speed dawg]

And then some folks wonder why they get branded as closet stormfronters on this forum.

I look at that as a badge of honor. Sure fire way to tell you've owned the opposition. Similar to your 'shame by association' post just now.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Typical how this thread has diverged into another example of certain butthurt white dudes complaining about minorities with all this race talk.

Im looking at the original post and just chuckling at how the usual bunch here always steers a topic in that direction. The OP was about Americans in general, and touched on Russia and Islam...yet again, we somehow end up on a freaking discussion about blacks, hispanics, race, genetics, culture, left, right etc.

And then some folks wonder why they get branded as closet stormfronters on this forum.

Not true, the thread was about americans like you that hate America which a lot of 'minorities' do. Even the op brought up racial assimilation. No surprise you would play the labeling game.

Another name for gridlock is "the system of checks and balances".

True, oftentimes the best thing that can happen is gridlock and nothing new gets passed. Most new legislation is horrible and even worse is how it is often implemented.

 

[Poon King]

Actually, the differences between Texas and Germany aren't that huge, aside from the superficial stuff, at least if you are comparing white Texans to white Germans. Both have similar social values, work ethic, etc. and as a result enjoy a high standard of living. I think you will find that an average white Texan has a lot more in common with a white German than a black Texan. Same thing with Korea and Japan. The Japanese have actually descended from Koreans and despite being separated for over 1,500 years, have retained a very similar culture (again, aside from the superficial, post-modern stuff).

Doesn't answer the question I asked.

 

[Poon King]

Whiggers are socially confused, often self-hating (think Eminem) and usually low IQ (think Vanilla Ice) whites. There is a reason why they are ridiculed so much (by other white people first and foremost). Whiggers are no more capable of "becoming black" than male feminists are capable of having a period. As for "oreos", they tend to be mulattoes who happen to identify more with their white side. I can't say I've ever met a full-blooded black "oreo".

Again.. if were talking about science.. then personal experiences are a horrible argument. I have met black as night oreos. Also many foreign blacks that come from Africa act nothing like American blacks.

In order to say a whigger is not capable of "becoming black" you must first define what it means to be "black". What exactly does being black mean?

Also.. if personality or "culture" is genetic.. then whiggers would not exist as they would have genetic difference making them incapable of adopting a non-white culture. Just like a Wolf will never behave like Fox no matter what environment you put it in and vica versa. Even though genetically.. both animals are very similar.

 

[Jaylan]

Whats hilarious about this oreo talk is that Ive been called this myself back in high school by ignorant kids. Because I skateboarded, listened to punk rock and ska, wore funny clothes, and had funny hair.

Back when I was in high school, it was rare for non-white kids to be into that kinda stuff. And I when it came to how I talked, it depended on which group of friends I was with. Id naturally speak different depending on who I was with.

Anyways, Im college educated, also having certifications in my field of work, I speak well, and I dress well. Im also very socially conscious, culturally aware, and my politics are obvious. Im dark skinned just like my dad. Hes a dark skinned lawyer, and my mother is a more fair skinned teacher. They are both fully and proudly black. Each with graduate degrees, extensive vocabularies, successful in their fields, and very socially conscious.

Neither of us are "oreos". Its really only ignorant fools who try to throw that label onto someone. Culture isnt defined by race. As there are black people all over the damn country and world with differing cultures.

Lastly, in my adulthood, I have varying interests and hobbies that transcend lazy race based classifications.

 

[Poon King]

Your confirmation bias is getting the better of you.

There are several on this site.

Why don't you and the rest of stomfront light just come out and say it already.

You believe black people to be inherently inferior and ignore any argument or evidence to the contrary.

Just like with religion.. people will use bogus claims to support beliefs they have.. usually beliefs they've had for a long time and cannot part with.

Few people in the U.S. know much about science. What they do know is they see different races of people acting differently. Rather than digging deep into the history and science behind these differences.. they just default to racism.

The undeniable truth remains that their is NO behavior pattern that is exclusive to one race of humans. Nore is there any behavior pattern that is completely absent in one race of humans. This is a fact.

Its not debatable. So why are people debating? Because people like to argue opinions over facts. And just like with religion.. if an opinion you have doesn't go along with a fact.. well.. you just deny that fact. :crackup:

 

[Stagger Lee]

The undeniable truth remains that their is NO behavior pattern that is exclusive to one race of humans. Nore is there any behavior pattern that is completely absent in one race of humans. This is a fact.

Its not debatable. So why are people debating? Because people like to argue opinions over facts. And just like with religion..:

You are creating a strawman. No one else said "exclusive" and "completely absent". There are however definitely group difference in intelligence and abilities and behavioral tendency differences between the racial groups. Scientific research supports this as much as the PC society tries to hide and suppress these findings.


Again, your argument is analogous to saying, "since some females behave similar to some men, there is no gender difference between the population of males and females." You are the one who is using unscientific opinion that is similar to a religion.

 

[Poon King]

You are creating a strawman. No one else said "exclusive" and "completely absent". There are however definitely group difference in intelligence and abilities and behavioral tendency differences between the racial groups. Scientific research supports this as much as the PC society tries to hide and suppress these findings.

Again, your argument is analogous to saying, "since some females behave similar to some men, there is no gender difference between the population of males and females." You are the one who is using unscientific opinion that is similar to a religion.

No one is denying certain common patterns in different races. And while there are genetic differences between the races.. there are certain differences that have little or nothing to do with race and more to do with culture, environment and health.

Lets take intelligence since you brought it up and compare it to Asian eye folds. If in order for a person to be "pure" Asian they have to have the eye folds.. then you can safety say that people have eye folds BECAUSE of Asian genes. Since you will never see a pure white or black with those eye folds.

Now lets take intelligence. If we see intelligence in all races.. we cannot say a person is intelligent BECAUSE they are White or Asian. If you have stupid people in all races.. you cannot say a person is stupid BECAUSE they are White or Asian.

See the difference? You can say a person has brown skin BECAUSE they are black. You cannot say a person is stupid BECAUSE they are black.

Nice try though.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Now lets take intelligence. If we see intelligence in all races.. we cannot say a person is intelligent BECAUSE they are White or Asian. If you have stupid people in all races.. you cannot say a person is stupid BECAUSE they are White or Asian.

See the difference? You can say a person has brown skin BECAUSE they are black. You cannot say a person is stupid BECAUSE they are black.

Nice try though.

I never said a person is stupid because of their race. I said races differ in group intelligence and other personality and behavior traits due to genetics. In other words, due to genetics some races have more stupid people and less intelligent people, and differ in behavior and achievement. Nice try though.

You believe genetics only affect physical traits, while I believe genetics affect mental and behavior traits (explaining a race's culture and achievement). Just like genetics does with different dog breeds/subspecies, a sheep vs a lion, apes vs man, etc.

 

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See the difference? You can say a person has brown skin BECAUSE they are black. You cannot say a person is stupid BECAUSE they are black.

Agree with Poon King. If you're going to talk about Sub-Saharan's having an average IQ that tops out in the 80's have a contingency plan. Be self employed because you will get that letter from HR and that goes ten fold if you're white and male.

Best just to nod along with the rest of the hivemind and pretend the African space program was put on hold because of those evil white colonialists or some sh!t and maybe just MAYBE albino's actually taste not too bad if you'd just give it a try BIGOT!!

 

[Bible_Belt]

That's median IQ, not average, which actually reinforces your point more.

lol @ African Space Program. To be fair, an all white guy NBA or NFL team would be just about as successful.