Americans who hate America

[speed dawg]

Is this the same advice you'd be giving your "brothers" rioting over the death of Michael Brown? If you don't like blacks criminals being shot by white cops, get on a plane and go to Africa. Gtfo. Simple. Or is it okay for libtards to whine and riot over things they don't like, while right wing folks are supposed to keep their mouths shut.

That's going to leave a mark.

Right wing organizations can also be effective at organizing and pushing legislation. Just look at the NRA. No one dares fvck with them anymore. What we need is NRA-like organizations devoted to other conservative causes.

Good point. There is no doubt conservatives need to speak up more.

That being said, it's almost as if guns are the only things people listen to anymore. They are the only way to keep people in line. Fear, in essence. The lib-tards have nothing to fear in this country at present, but that will change. When all these radical muslims take up arms and their own safety (lib-tards, I mean) is threatened in their own gated neighborhoods, suddenly they will be looking around for someone to protect them.

 

[Jaylan]

Is this the same advice you'd be giving your "brothers" rioting over the death of Michael Brown? If you don't like blacks criminals being shot by white cops, get on a plane and go to Africa. Gtfo. Simple. Or is it okay for libtards to whine and riot over things they don't like, while right wing folks are supposed to keep their mouths shut?

Right wing organizations can also be effective at organizing and pushing legislation. Just look at the NRA. No one dares fvck with them anymore. What we need is NRA-like organizations devoted to other conservative causes.

Thats the thing.

People are protesting all across the country. People are voting and changing things. Politicians are chiming in more than ever before. The president has been speaking out, and cops are now wearing cameras a lot more.

Look at gay marriage...10 years ago people wouldnt expect it to be on the edge of full legalization throughout the country. Lets see what the Supreme Court does in the next couple months.

Things are changing...so theres no reason for minority groups to leave. The demographic shift will continue and the democratic base will likely grow. Especially with many sociologists estimating the today's "minorities" will make up the majority by the 2040s or 2050s.

PS - Plenty of people are doing nothing wrong and cops try to break the law. Where was the guy in the link breaking a law? If it werent for that video, those lying ass cops would have had him put away for a long time. Yet we are supposed to believe anything these badged killers say without question ?

 

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Cant handle the demographic shift, the changing tides? Then gtfo. Simple.

lol at our resident anti-white sh!tlib. The irony of having the freedom to actually get away with and be so hostile against the host population seems to escape you gaylan. You realize if and when the host population is gone you're next on the list dingus. Mexicans/Hispanics don't seem to be as puzzified and paralyzed with the same indoctrinated fear as white gentiles over the charge of "dats raycis" and they're proving they're not your biggest fans.

Once white gentiles take with them the curse of altruism unique to their race only it's all over gaylan. I guess that's a small price to pay for the diseased mind of an anti-white leftoid.

Btw why is the only option to leave? Why not a civil war?

 

[Jaylan]

^Worry about the dingos and kangaroos in your country buddy. Im not concerned about your hyperbole filled rants.

In other words Jaylan you concede the point.

Not at all.

Im saying that there's no reason for minorities to leave. Because minority groups of varying types are changing the country. And continual demographic shifts are more in their favor.

From how Ive seen people behave online in social media, and from how Ive seen right wing pundits speak in the last few years, I see that many on the right are outright scared of losing the country for a generation. Because young people and minority groups keep falling away from them.

 

[logicallefty]

Eh, I'm more optimistic. Remove California, NY, Ill and Mass from the country, just those four states, and what's left is not that bad, and you would never see another leftist elected as President.

I gotta stand up for my State here. Get rid of Chicago and you have a very conservative downstate Illinois that's not all that corrupt either. A few counties are but most are not.. It's Chicago that kills it for us and puts us in all of these bad lists of States, like your list... AND you are correct with Chicago included, we suck....

BUT HEY.. we got us a Republican Governor now at least... I'm still celebrating and he is been in office a month.. :rockon:

 

[speed dawg]

Mexicans/Hispanics don't seem to be as puzzified and paralyzed with the same indoctrinated fear as white gentiles over the charge of "dats raycis" and they're proving they're not your biggest fans.

Haha, yep, this is where anti-white crusaders like Gaylan go wrong. Hispanics would prefer being around the whites all day every day, and it ain't close. That's why I say the Republicans needs to concentrate ALL of their energy on the Hispanic population and flip the script. Whites and blacks are going to vote the way they want, and it isn't changing. Target the swing states and the Hispanic population, you win the election.

The d*mn media even lumps the whites and hispanics together for most everything. Hypocritical pieces of sh*t. When it's crime rates they are after, we are lumped together. When it's fear-provoking in the white population, oh look you're a minority and everybody hates you. Such a joke.

Hispanics really aren't that bad, biggest problem is the language barrier.

 

[dasein]

I gotta stand up for my State here. Get rid of Chicago and you have a very conservative downstate Illinois that's not all that corrupt either. A few counties are but most are not.. It's Chicago that kills it for us and puts us in all of these bad lists of States, like your list... AND you are correct with Chicago included, we suck....

BUT HEY.. we got us a Republican Governor now at least... I'm still celebrating and he is been in office a month.. :rockon:

You are right, it's really the cities, and I mentioned that, but should have been more clear. NY is an awesome state outside NYC, same for Mass. I imagine, but don't have the knowledge to know for sure there. Same for Ill. What we really have is an entire country being held hostage by a few corrupt, large population cities.

 

[Mike32ct]

Conservatives do the same thing.

When they endlessly whine about the country, or talk about secession, why not simply get on a plane and go elsewhere if the USA's values bother them that much? Cant handle the demographic shift, the changing tides? Then gtfo. Simple.

Because the place American conservatives want to live no longer exists.

One thing "libs" do though is get their laws voted on or pushed through.

True. Libs are good at getting legislation through. But how many more laws do we need? Must we ALWAYS add hundreds or thousands of pages to the statute books every year? At what point do we have enough?

My dad and I joke that the best thing this country could possibly do is to pay the politicians to DO NOTHING. Just collect a paycheck, play cards, and promise not to pass anything else. Then the US would bounce back. Anytime we are told that new XYZ legislation would be GOOD for us, be prepared to get screwed over.


There's been a huge cultural and economic shift in the last 25 years and its not stopping anytime soon. Either adapt, or renounce your citizenship and go abroad. This goes for anyone.

Fair enough.

 

[FairShake]

There's a lot of hating of Americans on this thread.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Once white gentiles take with them the curse of altruism unique to their race only it's all over gaylan. I guess that's a small price to pay for the diseased mind of an anti-white leftoid.

People like Gaylan are so blinded by their hate of the white man that they fail to realize that modern-day whites are probably the most tolerant people who have ever lived, especially when it comes to the treatment of blacks. There is not a single non-white country out there where the type of rioting that is going in Jefferson would be tolerated. Can you imagine a group of blacks trying to riot in China or Saudi Arabia or even Mexico. They would all be shot (or worse) in no time.

 

[Poon King]

People like Gaylan are so blinded by their hate of the white man that they fail to realize that modern-day whites are probably the most tolerant people who have ever lived, especially when it comes to the treatment of blacks. There is not a single non-white country out there where the type of rioting that is going in Jefferson would be tolerated. Can you imagine a group of blacks trying to riot in China or Saudi Arabia or even Mexico. They would all be shot (or worse) in no time.

That type of rioting is not unique to blacks.

When white college kids riot the reaction and perception is not the same as when blacks riot. Why? Because getting white people to battle black people has been a game played since the days of the Confederacy.

In these peoples reality-view of the world.. nearly 1/6 of the population, mostly black, is "on welfare" and never works, and the rest of us are struggling with high taxes as a result.

Fortunately, they believe, elected Republicans will throw those blacks off welfare and cut white peoples taxes as a result, as they will not be burdened by those "Welfare Queens" and their 20 children.

However, the largest demographic group on welfare, collecting food stamps, and on Medicaid is actually white people. As they are the majority of the population, they are the majority of people getting government assistance. But that fact doesn't jive with the "narrative" the Powers That Be want to sell you.

So why do people lie like this? Well, to achieve and maintain power, plain and simple.

Which goes back to my first post about considering WHO benefits from selling you the ideas being pushed on you?

 

[Embers84]

What have conservatives done in recent times and through the 2000's that benefited the country? I can't think of one. Everything they did led to deficits, loss of jobs, unrest in the middle east, almost giving us a great depression. And you guys think their policies are so great. :crackup:

I think people who hate America tend to simply hate white people especially white males being free and prosperous. They hate everything prototypical of a 1950's American male, Christian, patriotic, prosperous and secure in employment, has a stable woman and family, etc.

They rationalize and point to all the things wrong with America (many of them their own type of thinking caused) but when you come down to it they're just full of jealousy, envy and just want to ruin things for others.

More right wing spin and delusion. Most of the posters here hate the idea of marriage and the 1950's family. They call that beta and unnatural to have a marriage even though they are right wing.

The upper middle class and rich Liberals in blue states are not jealous of the poor right wing conservatives living in the poorest counties in red states. That is a joke and a right wing lie that you repeat.

Remove California, NY, Ill and Mass from the country, just those four states, and what's left is not that bad, and you would never see another leftist elected as President.

Do that and America would go down the toilet without economies of those States. California alone is what keeps America running with everything it provides with its exports.

America should elect another Bush to run the country into the ground on the brink of another depression with the same old failed policies? LOL

Democrat Presidents are the ones who saved our economy: FDR, Clinton, Obama. What have conservatives done by giving us depressions and recessions?

As a matter of fact if you were to take away every blue state abortion loving careerist carousel rider, the wave of single mothers who haven't been widowed, third world gibsmedats and all the other clueless parasites hopped up on a public school (indoctrination) education that it's all those old dead (and living) white boogeymens fault you're honestly not left with many of the kind of "Americans" you're talking about.

I'm glad you said "has". Coasting on the coattails of a long gone homogeneous K-selected societies accomplishments won't last forever. Sh!tcanned the hopes of space exploration in favor of a welfare state and genuine science for political correctness and affirmative action quotas but at least we got google glass amirite?

Looks like you're still digesting the misinformation from your sh!tcon media.

The fact is the Red South and Red States have the highest number of teenage pregnancies/single mothers compared to blue states.The Red States in the South ranks the highest in obesity among conservative women. Red conservative counties are the poorest counties in the country taking in the most money living off the government.

America was built on the backs of average white men. Farmers, factory workers, middle class office clerks. People who worked, paid taxes and spent money. America's current decline is directly attributable to the decline of this class of people, who have always been the backbone of the American society.

America's decline is because of the right wingers who ruined our country to feed their own greed and profits. Our country would have been the same way over 100 years ago but Teddy Roosevelt got rid of the monopolies and unjust system that was evolving. Problem is, that with a corrupt system we have, there is no Teddy to break up monopolies and to preserve the unions.

The right wingers outsourced our good American jobs overseas for cheap labor and profits.

The FCC allowed right wing corportations to buy up our TV, Radio, and print into huge conglomerates taking out small independent owned companies and merging with others providing a clear media bias.

Walmarts, Best Buys, Macy's took out other companies, mom and pop stores, and competitors with the huge monopoly they hold.

Right wingers want to bust all the unions so there is no fairness for the American worker.

Right wingers are eliminating the backbone of American society by dumping our good jobs to other countries, eliminating competition, and allowing corporations to eat up the small businesses that is the backbone that made our country great.

This would have happened over 105 years ago if Teddy Roosevelt didn't bust up the monopolies and preserve the unions making it fair for the American workers and businessmen.

Right wing organizations can also be effective at organizing and pushing legislation. Just look at the NRA. No one dares fvck with them anymore. What we need is NRA-like organizations devoted to other conservative causes.

Yeah, they just lie and make things up with billions of special interest dollars they take in.

"They are coming to get yer guns." LOL. Even though nobody is, that's the lie they spread to get the gullible fools to fall in line.

 

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However, the largest demographic group on welfare, collecting food stamps, and on Medicaid is actually white people. As they are the majority of the population, they are the majority of people getting government assistance.

Not even close (even as a temporary "majority"). I might also add taking 39.8% of the total gibsmedats when you only comprise of 12.6% of the population is fvcking disgusting no matter how you slice it. I doubt anybody with a pair of eyes would have bought your claim anyway but I don't think you can bullsh!t out of this one.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

Own it Poon king. OWN IT!! Show us that alphadom I'm continually defending. Personally I'd be happy as a jaylan with 2 *******s if I managed to cuck a race who I perceived as enemy number 1 out of it's majority tax dollars. I'd be rubbing it in. "How's that NASA program going whitey...Reaching for the stars? Pfffft try reaching for your wallets"

 

[Embers84]

However, the largest demographic group on welfare, collecting food stamps, and on Medicaid is actually white people. As they are the majority of the population, they are the majority of people getting government assistance. But that fact doesn't jive with the "narrative" the Powers That Be want to sell you.

Red State Socialism

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/26/republican-states-most-dependent-government_n_5035877.html

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/06/16/red-states-are-the-real-welfare-states/

http://aattp.org/ts-official-white-...e-biggest-food-stamp-moochers-in-the-country/

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8




Republican States Receive the Most Federal Welfare

http://ivn.us/2013/11/07/republican-states-receive-the-most-federal-welfare/

It’s time we have an honest discussion about what different states give to the federal government and receive in return. We talk a lot about social welfare, but we don’t talk about the federal welfare that transfers money from one state to another.

Is it fair that some states give the federal government much more than they receive in return, and then we are asked to compare the fiscal responsibility of these states as if there is an even playing field?

Many “red states” beat their chest as being fiscally conservative. Proud of their low income tax, business friendly environment, and self-reliance rhetoric.

But is it fair?

California, a “blue state,” gets just $.80 back for every $1 they put in. New York, even worse. They get less than $.75 on their dollar.

Whose going to start calling out the hypocrisy of some of the red states who point fingers at states like California and New York as the problem? These states want self-reliance? On what? California and New York’s goodwill?

This isn’t something Democrats should be proud of. They’re leaders are the one’s sitting there while their citizens get the short end of the stick.

Not something Republicans should be proud of either. Kinda hard to be the fiscal conservative when you ask Uncle Sam to pay your bills.

http://ivn.us/2013/11/07/republican-states-receive-the-most-federal-welfare/

Nice try but not quite. As much as sh!tlibs love to trot out that little factoid and beam with excitement it was debunked a few years back, on closer inspection and coming as no suprise to anyone it turned out sh!tlibs living within those red states were leeching the welfare

:crackup:


You are dumb, not even knowing what money each state takes in fiscally to believe that crap. Check it out yourself.

Your right wing blogger Maxwell made this poll up at a feeble attempt with no factual government data. :crackup:

All of those charts are actual fiscal state government data. Not a fake poll made up by Maxwell, a right wing blogger.

Rural counties are the most poorest counties and is where the most conservative white people live.

Even Gallup a famous poll company debunked the rights lies.

http://grist.org/food/new-data-says...g-hungry-while-the-gop-plans-food-stamp-cuts/

 

[( . )( . )]

Republican States Receive the Most Federal Welfare

Nice try but not quite. As much as sh!tlibs love to trot out that little factoid and beam with excitement it was debunked a few years back, on closer inspection and coming as no suprise to anyone it turned out sh!tlibs living within those red states were leeching the majority of welfare :crackup: Even in red states you leftoid parasites fail.

But as solid as the statistics Krugman provided might seem, we’re left with one glaring problem: States aren’t people. Could it be possible that liberals within conservative states are the ones taking the welfare dollars?
A survey by the Maxwell Poll on the political affiliation of those receiving government aid showed this to be the case.

Public Housing :Rep 12% Dem 81%

Medicaid :Rep 16% Dem 74%

Food Stamps :Rep 20% Dem 67%

Unemployment Compensation :Rep 21% Dem 66%

Disability (from Govt.) :Rep 25% Dem 64%

Welfare/Public Assistance :Rep 22% Dem 63%

http://rare.us/story/exploding-the-lefts-red-state-myths/

 

[Mike32ct]

It's all pre-determined. The only reason people can call or write legislators or speak at some public meeting/hearing is to give them a chance to VENT.

That is the only reason. It does not change the outcome. I know some politicians who confirmed this to me privately.

 

[dasein]

Do that and America would go down the toilet without economies of those States. California alone is what keeps America running with everything it provides with its exports.

Talk about delusions. The mass of states buying stuff from big blue city companies in interstate commerce, that could just as easily be provided locally, is the only thing keeping the big blue corrupt cities afloat. The rest of the country would do -just fine- without those cities, the other way around? Not so much.

 

[Jaylan]

Haha, yep, this is where anti-white crusaders like Gaylan go wrong. Hispanics would prefer being around the whites all day every day, and it ain't close. That's why I say the Republicans needs to concentrate ALL of their energy on the Hispanic population and flip the script. Whites and blacks are going to vote the way they want, and it isn't changing. Target the swing states and the Hispanic population, you win the election.

Pass the good weed youre smoking...because you are not thinking clearly.

Have you paid attention to polls and voting results the last 10 years? The GOP has been steadily losing the Hispanic vote. And with the way they act regarding immigration, it pushes Latinos further and further away from the party. Think about it....53% Kerry in 2004, 67% Obama in 2008, and 71% Obama in 2012. And it only continues to grow.

Cubans, at least the older Cubans, were the only real latino demogrpahic that has a record of being strongly Republican.

And since when do Hispanics prefer to be near whites? Are you kidding yourself? Have you been to any large Southwest or Northeast city that have huge Latino populations? Have you had experience with the Hispanic community? If you did, you'd know more a fact that the vast, VAST majority of them feel brotherhood with other minorities long before feeling any kinship to white people.

And the only Latinos who strongly favor whites, are the white Latinos. Which has been helpful with the GOP and Cuban community ties. Cubans tend to have more white Latinos compared to Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, or Dominicans in the USA. These other groups have a lot more Mestizo or Black looking individuals. Youre really fooling yourself if you think Hispanics rush to buddy up with white Americans over other minorities.

The d*mn media even lumps the whites and hispanics together for most everything. Hypocritical pieces of sh*t. When it's crime rates they are after, we are lumped together. When it's fear-provoking in the white population, oh look you're a minority and everybody hates you. Such a joke.

Hispanics really aren't that bad, biggest problem is the language barrier.

And in case you havent realized...Hispanic is an ethnicity not a race.

Which is why the media and census lumps Hispanics together WITH ALL races. In the Census Hispanic is not a race. Its a separate percentage of all racial backgrounds in America. Someone can be white black, asian, mestizo, etc...and still be a Latino.

Many Americans get fooled into thinking Latino = Brown...because of all the Brown Mexicans in this country.

Lastly, check out this article and look at the polling numbers since 1972. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...can-problem-with-hispanic-voters-in-7-charts/ The GOP has gotten over 40% of the Hispanic vote once in the last 40 plus years. And theyve consistently gotten only a quarter to a third of the Hispanic vote...with the most 3 recent presidential elections showing a sharp downward trend.

With the changing demographics in the country, I cannot see the GOP having a strong future...especially with the way they alienate Hispanics with this immigration issue. And lets not even talk about Obama's administration getting the Democrats those needed Florida Hispanic votes in 2016, with this new relationship with Cuba.

 

[dasein]

Red State Socialism

All complete horsesht, full of left Complex cherrypicks and distortions, childishly easy to debunk:

1. On the "giving" side,

a) Tax situs fallacy - perhaps the most "glaring" factor in leftist liestats on state "giving" is attributing revenue that results from interstate commerce operations -only- at the tax situs. Taxes are paid on executive and other salaries, among other things, in big blue city corporate HQs, national firms of all types from law to advertising to architecture, but that money really came from interstate operations in many states. This distortion, failing to attribute revenue at the OPERATIONAL situs as opposed to the TAX situs, is enough to debunk the entire "Blue state giver, Red state taker" BS on its own. But there's more...

b) Sunbelt retirement fallacy - For decades, tens of millions of Americans work and pay high income taxes in big blue cities, then retire into red sunbelt states, where they become net "takers," with the double whammy of paying less, if any, income tax in retirement. This creates the absurdity that someone is a "giver" one day, and a "taker" the very next when they retire. This factor alone is enough to debunk the entire "giver taker" BS on its own... but there's even more...

c) Delaware corporate locus as tax situs fallacy - Millions of companies are organized and HQed in Delaware for various corporate law reasons, yet they don't actually do much business there. They are taxed in DE making DE appear to be the biggest "giver" state in the country inaccurately, despite this is a distortion. Any stats that don't adjust this huge factor out are bogus.

There's more on the "giver" side, but that's enough for now.

2. On the "taker" side, the only way the left-Complex liestats can work is if they include all sorts of NATIONAL benefits and benefits with severe tradeoffs as solely STATE benefits. They add in military bases, land and park management, and resource subsidies designed to stabilize NATIONAL markets as the equivalent of "welfare taking" by red states when they are most certainly not.

For example, small population western states are considered huge "takers" per capita due to money spent on federal land management of FEDERAL land and NATIONAL parks in those states. But we all know this most certainly isn't welfare, and the question becomes WHAT ARE THEY GETTING?

Anyone who has ever lived near a military base knows there are huge tradeoffs there, having a big TARGET painted on your community for one glaring thing, rowdy soldiers and unsavory behavior for another, yet leftist liars count military bases as the equivalent of WELFARE for a state?! Come again? Moreover, military bases are INDISPUTABLY sources of NATIONAL, not just state benefit.

Farm and energy subsidies are in place to STABILIZE food and commodity prices for EVERYONE, not just the people in the state who receive the subsidies. These are closer to being welfare, but still a distortion.

Here's the takeaway, all the distortion, cherrypicks and lies detailed above are designed to conceal one irrefutable fact. When it comes to actual WELFARE and transfer payments, BIG BLUE CITIES are far and away the biggest takers:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310

This is a relatively straightforward statistic, and CNBC lists the numbers in each state. Almost all of the welfare taker states are BLUE.

So don't let liars from the Complex left peddle this lie narrative, don't be fooled. State to state comparisons are useful only on big maps in ELECTIONS, never in the kind of dishonest way the left tries to sell them over and over, red state takers, red states less educated, and any other state-hate.

States are huge diverse economies, boom towns like Huntsville Ala just down the road from the sticks towns, and this applies to EVERY SINGLE STATE. Only a moron or a lying leftist will try to generalize whole states in this way, it's somewhat more accurate to generalize CITIES, which, even in red states, tend to be BLUE.

Don't be fooled, don't fall for the obvious lies.

This utter and complete DEBUNKING of the "blue state giver, red state taker" Horsesht has been brought to you as a PSA, LOL.

 

[Bokanovsky]

"They are coming to get yer guns." LOL. Even though nobody is, that's the lie they spread to get the gullible fools to fall in line.

Oh yeah, the leftists have no interest in taking away yours guns. Just ask the Brits, Europeans, Australians, Canadians...wait a second. What a crock of sh!t.