Alternative Cutting Guide

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If you edit it edit the first few paragraphs.... You spend about 4 of them complaining.... Touching if you want put it on the bottom... but most of us are concerned with the actual diet.... not your thoughts on the curent mainstream corpral thought process and greed....;)

I never got what was so wrong with something like atkins? Sounds like everything you said.? cept it doesn't focus on calories.

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if you mix the Zone diet with Atkins...(low carb block, never be hungry, eat 6 small meals a day) stuff you'd prebably be good to... thas what I do, least in theroy thats what I should do If I ever get around to dieting...;)
 

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Certainly a lot to read. Some good stuff in here, but if you added in the parts that are missing and try and cut down the length a bit, maybe it might get stickied. Who knows.

One thing I will say though, and I dont know if anyone else finds this, I'm always hungry when it starts getting to about 6PM [biggest of my 5/6meals]. Theres still some food being digested in my stomache, but the point I'm making is that the body has it's own clocks and timers. When you start to eat at a certain time of day, your body will sort of remind you that knows its about time for some big fat lean steak, or something.

Most 'hunger' in the west is your body saying "HEADS UP! get some food in, come on!" not that you're actually NEEDING the food.

Other than that, keep it up.
 

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eating no carbs for long periods.
Thats why I said mixed with The Zone... which is a balnce diet...

It puts foods in categories of blocks...

Protien BLock.
carb block
and
Fat Black...

Much easier to follow then atkins for life... You can pretty much eat anything... But you just have to balance the blocks...I think it's

1protien/1carbblock or somehting... then the fat block comes in somewhere...

I havn't used that in a while.... but I remember I did ia mix of low carb atkins and the zone diet and it worked great, but then I got busy and couldn't keep up with it....
 

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Kinda funny, have been loosing quite some weight this week on a diet like this:

3000/2200/2200/3500/2400/3000 with cardio twice daily.

Next holiday for 2 weeks i'm gonna try to BURN 5000 calories a day, and EAT 4000 calories a day. I bet you can ravage thruw your fat depots like that in a healthy way.

Maybe, maybe not, will be fun experiment.
I hope you're not bothered in the slightest about the amazingly high demand you are placing on your metabolism, the fact that your lean muscle mass is diminishing quickly, etc.

burning 1000 calories more than you eat will not do you any good.
 

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They're also genetically gifted. It's the SEAL's, not a creche. These guys are some of the toughest in the world, and contrary to beliefe, they dont put on much mass at all. They're strong though.

Unless you're going into the military, dont do it. Then again I'm not your mother so :rolleyes:
 

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The Beginners Guide to Cutting
By Patrick D.

Introduction
This is a basic introductory guide on cutting. When I use the term “Cutting” I mean reducing body fat, while maintaining lean body mass. It is divided in to 3 sections: Diet, Training, and Supplementation. This entire guide is written off the top of my head, using my own personal bodybuilding experience as my only reference. It is important to note that individuals have different body types, and different metabolisms. Some people are able to readily lose fat easier than others. Some people have stubborn fat in certain areas that just won’t seem to go away. This doesn’t mean that you’re stuck with that spare tire for the rest of your life; it just means that you’ll need to work a little harder.

If Bodybuilding were easy, then everyone would do it. The two main requirements when cutting are willpower and dedication. If you’re halfway through a cut, and you find yourself reaching for that Beer or Candy Bar, just ask yourself this question: How bad do you want it?” How badly do you want to see that 6-pack? How badly do you want to be in control of your body? How badly do you want to reach your goals? I’ll be the first one to say that cutting is not fun, but unless you just want to become some big muscular fat guy, it’s a necessity.

Cutting is a slow process and requires patience. Don’t expect to be completely ripped in 2 or 3 weeks, because it just won’t happen. You should be aiming to lose one pound per week. If you lose weight too fast, then you run the risk of losing some of that hard-earned muscle.

Diet
Diet is the most important aspect of cutting. You want to eat at least 6 small meals per day within your calorie limit. It will be very beneficial to track your food that you eat every day in terms of both overall caloric intake, and macronutrients (Protein, Carbohydrates and Fat). First, you must find out how many calories you should be eating. To calculate this, you can use a simple formula. Take your body weight in pounds and multiply it by 12. For example:

200lbs x 12 = 2400 Calories

You would divide 2400 by 6 = @400 calories per meal (you could increase/decrease the calories of each meal as long as you consume the target number of calories, in this case: 2400)

This is a general guideline, and can be increased or decreased depending on the person. If you have a fast metabolism, I suggest starting at a multiplier of 13. If you stop losing weight for 2 or 3 weeks, you may lower your calories, or increase cardio (see training section).

What you eat is almost important as how much you eat. Cutting is the time for you to clean up your diet, and stick to “clean” foods. I’ll briefly touch on the 3 macronutrients:



Protein
Protein is the life-blood of a bodybuilder’s diet. Sufficient protein intake is necessary for maintaining muscle mass. I suggest eating at least a gram of protein per pound of body weight. This can easily be achieved by eating 30-40g protein at every meal. Main sources of protein include: Lean Steak or Ground Beef, Skinless Chicken Breasts, Fish, Turkey, and Supplement Powders (Whey, Casein, Soy, etc.).

Carbohydrates
Carbohydrates are the body’s main source of energy. Your overall Carb intake may vary. Anywhere from 100g-200g Per day would be ideal. I suggest eating 20-40g carbs in the morning with breakfast. Your body has been fasting for a few hours at this point and you need to put some fuel back in the gas tank. It is for that same reason that I suggest another carb meal about 30-60 minutes before a workout.
The Glycemic Index (GI) is a rating system for the length of time it takes for your body to convert carbohydrates to glucose (sugar). If a food is rated high on the Glycemic Index, then it will be quickly metabolized. High GI foods are good for after lifting weights, for muscle recovery. Carbs you could take post-workout include Dextrose, Maltodextrin, Potatoes, and Pasta. Post-workout, however, is the only time I suggest High GI carbs. All other carbs throughout the day should come from lower GI carb sources that include some fiber. Low GI Carb sources include Oats, Beans, Sweet Potatoes, Green Vegetables, Oat Bran Cereal, Whole Wheat Bread (or Tortillas or Pitas).

Fat
Fat intake should comprise 20-30% of your overall calories. Make sure you are getting your fat from healthy fat sources, like Olives or Olive Oil, Natural Peanut Butter, Nuts, Flaxseed Oil, and Fish Oil. Salmon, for example, is a great natural source of Fish Oil, and pretty tasty too. Saturated fat sources, such as cheese and butter should be avoided for the most part. A tablespoon of butter with your dinner won’t kill you, but all good things in moderation.

Cheating
Cheating is simply when you eat something that’s not exactly healthy. It’s okay to cheat on your diet once in a while to maintain your sanity, but don’t go overboard. Try to keep your cheating to once a week (or less).

Beverages
Beverages will help you fight feelings of hunger and give your stomach that “full” feeling. Drink at least a gallon of water per day. It is important to keep the body hydrated. Besides water, you could drink some hot beverages, such as Black Coffee or Green Tea, both of which have caffeine (see supplement section below). Diet Sodas are also acceptable, as they have zero calories. Milk (low fat or nonfat) is another good beverage, but just make sure that you’re counting it towards your overall calorie intake. I suggest keeping milk intake to 32 oz. or less, due to the high lactose content. Lactose is basically another form of sugar, and fairly high on the Glycemic Index.

Training
This is divided into two sub-sections, weights and cardio.

Weights
Possibly the hardest part of cutting is lifting weights for months at a time without getting any bigger or stronger. Unfortunately, this is the case for most individuals. Yes, it is possible to gain some muscle or strength on a cut, but not very likely. Keep in mind that this is a cutting guide, and not a body recomposition guide. That being said, let’s talk about weight training.
You can choose several different weight training routines when cutting. The best one is the one that works for you. I suggest a training volume of 8-10 sets per body part per week. There is no need to work muscles twice a week. Again, your goal here is just stimulating your existing lean body mass, not growing any new muscle. You should still be lifting heavy, and close to muscle failure.


Like I said, you can choose several weight routines, but I'll go ahead and recommend the one I use when I cut:

Day 1: Off or Cardio or Shoulders (optional)
Day 2: Legs
Day 3: Push (Chest and Triceps)
Day 4: Off or Cardio
Day 5: Off or Cardio
Day 6: Pull (Back and Biceps)
Day 7: Off or Cardio

As you can see, this leaves much flexibility, to either take rest days if you feel the need for recovery, or do cardio (see cardio subsection below). If you feel the need to do some direct shoulder work, you can fit it in on Day One.
What about abdominal work?
Abs can be worked on any day of the week, no more than twice a week, and at least 48 hours in between. Anywhere from 4-8 sets would be ideal.

Cardio
Cardiovascular exercise is another key element of cutting. It helps with fat burning, raises metabolism, and contributes to a healthy heart (the strongest muscle in the body). When you first begin cutting, you should have one or two days per week dedicated to cardio. As you progress further into your cut, you may feel the need to increase cardio if you reach a sticking point or a plateau in your weight loss. There are several forms of cardio. This next sentence is very important. Find one that you enjoy. If you hate cardio, it will hate you back. If you can’t stand running on a treadmill, don’t do it. If you love to play Tennis or Basketball, go for it.
The duration of your cardio depends on your intensity level. Personally, I have had good results with medium intensity cardio (such as cycling or elliptical) for durations of 40-50 minutes. The main objective is to keep your heart rate at an elevated level for an extended period of time.
Others have good results with HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training). This involves short bursts of maximum effort (such as Wind Sprints, Heavy Bag, Jump Rope) followed by short periods of rest, repeated over and over. There is scientific data to prove that HIIT is quite effective for fat loss.
 

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Supplementation

There are a wide variety of supplements that can benefit you when on a cut. This obviously depends on your budget. I will list them from top to bottom, in order of importance.

Vitamins
If you have less than $40 to spend on supplements, get some vitamins before anything else. Get a Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin C, and B-Complex. Take Vitamins every day.
Protein
If you’re not getting enough protein from your daily food, you should supplement with a protein powder. The most common is Whey Protein, which is fast digesting, and ideal for right after a weight training session. Casein and Soy Proteins are slower digesting and can be taken any time of day. Keep in mind that all 3 of these proteins can be found in food as well.
Ephedrine & Caffeine (ECA)
These can be used separately, or combined together. They are both similar in the sense that they are both stimulants, which raise heart rate and body temperature. Take ECA about 30-45 Minutes before a cardio session. To be honest, you can take ECA every day, or even 2-3 times/day, but again, it depends on how much money you’re willing to spend. Recommended dosage is 25mg ephedrine and 200mg caffeine. It is also important to note that some people combine Aspirin with the two, but its effectiveness is still in question.
Green Tea
Green Tea is a thermogenic like ECA, and also promotes antioxidant activity. You can drink it or take pure Green Tea Extract in pill form. Recommended dosage would be 2-5 cups/day or 400-800mg of the extract. The pill form is fairly inexpensive, and if you’ve got an extra $10, go for it.


Conclusion
As I said in the introduction, all of this information is based on my own personal experience. Most of these guidelines will work for anyone. They are not by any means, the only way to get the job done.


Happy Cutting!
 

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To have a solid training routine there are three elements that are essential:

nutrition
excersize
rest

Nutrition:

Eat 6 times a day. Keeps the metabolism up and running and maximises your body's efficency at shifting all the required substances around your body.

Keep protein high, and carbs low. Carbs should be used in your breakfast meal, post workout meal, and pre workout meal. The other meals should be protein and healthy fats. Flax, coconut, fish oil, etc

WATER. Your body needs tonnes of water to help in burning fat. By making sure the water is ice cool, your body burns a few extra calories heating it up. Every little helps, right?

Drop calories by 300 each week, and dont go below 1800. Cutting cycles should last 12 weeks. Ease your body into it, you'll be putting your body under a lot of stress.

Excersize:

When the calories go low, train JUST LIKE YOU WOULD. Keep the weights heavy, and you should begin losing some lbs. Add some cardio if you really want to boost the fat burning process. HIIT, not long steady-state cardio.

Rest:

Get atleast 7 hours sleep, and never drop below that. Your body needs the rest. Give it to it.

Suppliments:

See the links section in the other posts. This is meant to be brief.

LINKS.

Everything hasnt been covered, this is just an example of a small and to the point thread. If you want specifics you'll have to check out the following:

DIESELS CUTTING GUIDE: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18059

DIESELS BULKING GUIDE:http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18040

Misc info merged by me in my own thread. Credit mainly to Industry as a lot was taken from his nutrition thread. Mainly food related: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56626

... thats an example of a small, to the point guide. Why rehash stuff thats already on the board and indepth ;)
 
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