Alcohol and my life/game

[Durden Tyler]

I've been struggling the last few years wondering why my life/social connections are so dismal and over the past few months I'm begginning to realize that my alcohol consumption is probably the cause.

Before I began drinking so much (mid twenties) I had ambition and goals and not really any problems with the ladies. I was no Don Juan by any means but I sure wouldn't have needed to find a site like this. I read a thread here titled "Become Great!" and it hit a lot thoughts I keep in that filing cabinet in the back of my head.

I do have a social life but it ALWAYS is accompanied with booze. Hell, last night I had a date and drank three 23 ounce beers to my dates one coke. Surprisingly I got an email from her saying she had a good time. Sh!t, I did too! Got loaded...

To the point again, I used to have interests and hobbies that kept my spare time occupated, now bud light keeps me busy in my spare time. I'm realizing hanging with the same people and doing the same things will keep producing the same results.

Anyone else find or have found themselves in this position?

 

[NewMan]

I drink to much - and as of late it had got out of control somewhat.

Most of my friends drink a lot - and I like having fun and drinking with buddies. - it only got out of control probably the last 3 yrs - where I began drinking more and more.

Going out, drinking and blacking out, was becoming the norm for me....

that's when I had to cool things off. My weekends were passing by, with me laying on the sofa recovering from the night before - coming around in the evening ready for another trip to the bar. I got to the point where I was tied of wasting my weekends away doing nothing productive - and not following my hobbies.

So I started working on my house - installing hard wood floors and re-painting. I also got back into my hobbies - Riding dirt bikes, Kung Fu and playing poker.

I'm enjoying living my life again - spending Saturday mornings riding dirt bikes with friends (when you get up at 7AM Sat morning to ride, you can't get boozed up on Fridays) - and Sunday morning riding bikes on the beach - It totally beats laying on the sofa every weekend.

What's more I feel better - more relaxed and refreshed.

Do I still drink? for sure.

But now I drink infrequently - drinks less - and only let loose once in a while for special occations such as bithdays.

It's all based on moderation.

when you do to much of it - it's a problem.

 

[Durden Tyler]

NewMan,

You and I apparently have lots in common. Not just the drinking aspect but the hobbies as well. Dirt bikes were a passion and martial arts too. At one point I went out and bought a new bike (YZ 250 - bad boy) only to look at it sit in my garage with a beer in my hand remembering how fun it used to be racing around the track. But it sat there, so I sold it.

In the mornings I wake up and say to myself, this sh!t has got to stop but like you said, the effects from the night before are worn off, so off we go again. I wish getting a peice of a$$ was this repetative.

Oh yeah, I was born in LA too! You my long lost brother or something?

 

[NewMan]

LOL

Thats a lot of money wasted there my friend.....

I have a KLX 300R - I'm more of a trail guy myself - I enjoy tearing up the mountains and forest.

Sounds like you need to buy another bike!!!!!!

 

[Durden Tyler]

Believe it or not, I have thought about getting another bike. I need to research quite a bit because they don't do 2 strokes anymore and I've always been a 2 stroke kinda guy. (to everyone else, 2 stroke engine, not 2 stroke jerkin)

Another prob - don't know anyone around here that rides. If I had old buds back in Colorado around to ride with, maybe motivation would be a little stronger.

Being on a liquid diet the past few years has also taken it's toll on my body. Don't know if I could handle a 250 the way I used too.

 

[insanity]

drinking can be a great tool if used wisely. i call it constructive drinking. whenever i get writers block, while coming up with the next 1# hit single. i just go grab a 12 pack. when your half smashed, there is not much thinking involved and i let my fingers walk all over the strings and magic happens.
thats why i love the booze.

same thing with social situations. when you have some booze into you. you don't think about what your going to say. things just flow. sometimes thats the price you pay being shy.

just don't use it as a crutch. like if you have to have a few beers to make it to the store than get help.

 

[realsmoothie]

I have a bit of a problem in that I pretty much NEED to drink to do anything even close to DJ'ing.

I just starting seeing this girl, and it's pretty obvious me that it's going to go somewhere serious. My problem though is that we've only seen each other sober (she's a serious athelete who practices early in the morning) and so I've never had any drinks around her.

It's made any moves-making VERY difficult, because I am always frozen up.

I really have to work on this somehow.

 

[Metro3pilot]

now bud light keeps me busy in my spare time. I'm realizing hanging with the same people and doing the same things will keep producing the same results.

Anyone else find or have found themselves in this position?

:rockon: Yup, new scene, new people helps a lot

drinking can be a great tool if used wisely. i call it constructive drinking

I agree :yes:

 

[d9930380]

For me it was more drugs: cannabis and exctasy and a little coke but now it's booze.

Yea it really ****s up your life and there is nothing less sexy to a girl than a drunk.

However - the worst bit is, all my best nights have been when I've been loaded ;-)

 

[insidious]

Buddy, only YOU, and ONLY you, know if your drinking is a problem. If after this realization you continue drinking too much, then it is time to step back.

The predominant thought with all the dudes here is that drinking and booze helps their confidence, hence, their game...

1st of all, most of these guys are young and they haven't gotten into the groove of abusing alcohol for 10, 15, 30 years - at that point, it does begin to affect everything, you physical state, your emotional state, your intellectual state.

2nd of all, most the guys here do NOT have an alcohol problem so they are able to use it recreationally and with good results.

I'm 40, and at this age alcohol doesn't quite do all the tricks it used to :trouble:
I've fallen into ruts where I drink a lot for days at a time, and I've noticed that it actually begins to eat into my self-confidence. I feel best when I haven't had a sip of alcohol for a week or more.

Bottom line is we are all different - alcohol can be a great help for some of us, and for others of us, it just brings us down. The key is knowing which
side of this YOU are on.

 

[RedPill]

This is certainly not a precise science or anything but here's my personal guidelines for drinking. There's 4 levels of drunk.

1) Taking the edge off - All your mental abilities are still there. You're more relaxed, and your game benefits. 1-2 drinks

2) A healthy buzz - You're feelin' it. Inhibitions are lowered, you're more outgoing, but are still aware of your surroundings and can keep a decent conversation. 3-5 drinks

3) Fvcked up - Only fun when everyone around you is this drunk and it's a festive atmosphere. This is when stupid shyt starts to happen. Your game falls apart. Bad decisions. Getting raped by ugly women. Drunk driving. Taco Bell. People's emotions start spilling. Hangover if you don't play your cards right. 6-8 drinks

4) Trashed - Leave this one to the kids.

People who have to get fvcked up everytime they do something social, whether it's going out or chasing tail, have a drinking problem.

 

[Phyzzle]

I'm a firm believer in alcohol. I have two beers a night religiously.

I used toget into this mindset of pre-gaming before going out. This was fine, but I kept on saying, "I'm not quite feeling it enough yet. One more swig." Before I knew it, it was too late to go out, and I'd squandered a night drinking alone.

It does irritate you physically. The digestive tract isn't up to stuff - even if there is no nausea whatsoever. There's gas and slow digestion. That'll give you a mild "gut feeling" that lasts all day. It will start to bother you.

The whole key is beer: just stop drinking liquor entirely.

 

[decades]

the best way to go through life is no alcohol or very very moderate occasional drinking. I am in my 40s, and, all you yungins out there, this is what I have learned. :nono:

regards

 

[realsmoothie]

Bad decisions. Getting raped by ugly women. Drunk driving. Taco Bell.

LOL I love how Taco Bell needs no explanation.

 

[Durden Tyler]

Buddy, only YOU, and ONLY you, know if your drinking is a problem. If after this realization you continue drinking too much, then it is time to step back.

The predominant thought with all the dudes here is that drinking and booze helps their confidence, hence, their game...

1st of all, most of these guys are young and they haven't gotten into the groove of abusing alcohol for 10, 15, 30 years - at that point, it does begin to affect everything, you physical state, your emotional state, your intellectual state.

2nd of all, most the guys here do NOT have an alcohol problem so they are able to use it recreationally and with good results.

I'm 40, and at this age alcohol doesn't quite do all the tricks it used to :trouble:
I've fallen into ruts where I drink a lot for days at a time, and I've noticed that it actually begins to eat into my self-confidence. I feel best when I haven't had a sip of alcohol for a week or more.

Bottom line is we are all different - alcohol can be a great help for some of us, and for others of us, it just brings us down. The key is knowing which
side of this YOU are on.

This is my current state of mind now. I look at all aspects of my life, child, career and personal well being and what effects the alcohol is having. I have a good career and great kid, I just feel I could do so much more than I am now.

I agree booze can help ones game however, I believe it hurts mine (because I do it so much). I feel best when not drinking for several days myself. This is when my ambition returns. I want to get out and do something constructive, but getting to this point can be somewhat difficult at times.

 

[Durden Tyler]

LOL I love how Taco Bell needs no explanation.

LOL... some of here will know white castle rules too! :rockon:

 

[Durden Tyler]

3) Fvcked up - Only fun when everyone around you is this drunk and it's a festive atmosphere. This is when stupid shyt starts to happen. Your game falls apart. Bad decisions. Getting raped by ugly women. Drunk driving. Taco Bell. People's emotions start spilling. Hangover if you don't play your cards right. 6-8 drinks

4) Trashed - Leave this one to the kids.

People who have to get fvcked up everytime they do something social, whether it's going out or chasing tail, have a drinking problem.

6-8 to eight drinks does not = fvcked up for me.

I hate getting trashed! I drink a lot and there is absolutley not any sense innebriating (how do you spell this?) yourself. Although what I do doesn't make sense either

 

[supyos]

I think this post defines a LOT of guys including myself. The way I look at it is this...you work all week and get to the weekend. Where are all the of the single women on weekends?? They are at bars...so then comes the fact that most guys need some liquid courage to hit up the bars. Problem here is if you start to have no luck at the bar after your liquid courage you begin to get bombed, leading to the unproductive weekends of sitting around doing nothing!

I currently am one of these guys...and I keep telling myself to start doing new things on the weekends...but the weekend comes and I end up just drinking the whole time. I live in a big city and there are tons of things to do....I don't know if it's just a motivational thing, to stuck on finding chicks and believe bars are the only answer, or just plain don't have enough buddies that enjoy the same OTHER things as I do. It's definetely a getting in a RUT type of problem...where if you let it go to long you could get in trouble...or even waste away life.

 

[synergy1]

I think this post defines a LOT of guys including myself. The way I look at it is this...you work all week and get to the weekend. Where are all the of the single women on weekends?? They are at bars...so then comes the fact that most guys need some liquid courage to hit up the bars. Problem here is if you start to have no luck at the bar after your liquid courage you begin to get bombed, leading to the unproductive weekends of sitting around doing nothing!

I currently am one of these guys...and I keep telling myself to start doing new things on the weekends...but the weekend comes and I end up just drinking the whole time. I live in a big city and there are tons of things to do....I don't know if it's just a motivational thing, to stuck on finding chicks and believe bars are the only answer, or just plain don't have enough buddies that enjoy the same OTHER things as I do. It's definetely a getting in a RUT type of problem...where if you let it go to long you could get in trouble...or even waste away life.

Interesting post, and thread which I believe alot of guys can relate too. I am currently in the initial stages of my first job while living in the city. Being new here, I am trying to network and make as many friends as possible. This will ultimately help with meeting women. However, like most of you, I am finding that going out Friday and Saturday nights renders the better parts of the following days completely and utterly useless. I really do not rejuvenate my energy from the work week, I am hurting my body, and worse yet, I am losing touch with old hobbies from college.

I guess my question to you guys is this: has anyone gone from a crazy college lifestyle to a more normal life style, and been content with it? my fear is losing touch with my social life. But with no experience, its hard to say what will happen.

 

[TylerDurden]

Stop drinking so much start reading. Read the DJ Bible. If you drink everyday thr you are an alcoholic. Get help if you are drinking everyday.