Aging/Dying: What's the point? (Philosophical question)

[Vanderdonck]

First, I'm not suicidal or depressed. Second, I understand the evolutionary reasons behind our bodies' decline and eventual expiration.

I'm looking more for philosophical insights.

Death itself doesn't bother me so much as aging. (Ageing? How is it spelled?)

When I see seniors struggling after retirement in their so-called golden years, loaded up on meds and their bodies falling apart, I don't get it. What's there to look forward?

We accumulate all of this knowledge and experience and our bodies and minds betray us. Meanwhile sexually we peak when we're barely adult.

I speak as someone fortunate to have aged well. I'm very healthy. People think I'm 15 years younger than I am. But I still have to deal with my body changing, my metabolism mocking me and my memory slowing. I don't want to bang every hot thing I see anymore either (but maybe that's because I have banged plenty).

I suppose living past 60 is a recent phenomenon. Maybe we've expanded lifespan to absurd lengths.

And then there's women. They get hit far worse. Suffice to say I would not want to be a woman older than 45. But maybe for them it comes as a relief - no more bleeding or getting catcalled. But if I'm being honest, when I see how a beautiful young woman has changed over years and decades, a superficial part of me feels sad. But I guess if they were hot their whole lives, women would be unstoppable.

Anyway I'd like to hear your insights.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Does there have to be a meaning?

It's called the cycle of life. Be born, progress thru stages of life and then die.

Lots of other creatures go thru the same thing, pretty sure they aren't sitting around wondering what it means.

Humans always want to attribute meaning to everything when sometimes the answer is simply "Because that's the way life works".

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Orson Scott Card wrote a short story on an immortal race of aliens visiting Earth to study our limited lifespan and their conclusion was that our limited timespan gave our lives the urgency and motivation to make something of our lives before we perished and to leave some legacy behind (offspring, art, philosophy, et cetera), while the immortal aliens often felt indolent and useless and unmotivated to create anything.
I'm not religious, but I do think that the whole fact that we think about aging and mortality, our self-awareness, means our lives are influenced by the fact that you can snuff it at any moment. For some that awareness leads to nihilism and self-destruction, for others it leads to enlightenment and creativity.

 

[DJ Novice]

The shortness of life should give life meaning.

You only have a limited time to find meaning in your own life.

The problem is that age catches up with you and most people think they have more time than what they actually have.

One minute you’re in your 30s, spinning plates at will with high testosterone levels thinking it’s going to last forever.

Next minute you’re in your 50s with a rapidly dwindling pool of attractive women and declining testosterone levels still trying to find the impossible holy grail of a relationship or s*x that never gets boring or is so much better than what you have already experienced.

You need to find some purpose other than women in your life.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

We were designed as slaves and our lifespans are short so we don't figure it out and do something about it.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Orson Scott Card wrote a short story on an immortal race of aliens visiting Earth to study our limited lifespan and their conclusion was that our limited timespan gave our lives the urgency and motivation to make something of our lives before we perished and to leave some legacy behind (offspring, art, philosophy, et cetera), while the immortal aliens often felt indolent and useless and unmotivated to create anything.
I'm not religious, but I do think that the whole fact that we think about aging and mortality, our self-awareness, means our lives are influenced by the fact that you can snuff it at any moment. For some that awareness leads to nihilism and self-destruction, for others it leads to enlightenment and creativity.

That's a cool take and I like the premise of the alien story.

My only question is how the supposedly complacent aliens achieved the technology to visit other planets, lol.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Does there have to be a meaning?

It's called the cycle of life. Be born, progress thru stages of life and then die.

Lots of other creatures go thru the same thing, pretty sure they aren't sitting around wondering what it means.

Humans always want to attribute meaning to everything when sometimes the answer is simply "Because that's the way life works".

There doesn't have to be a meaning. I'm not looking for a standard explanation. Just interested in opinions about it from a philosophical standpoint.

"Because that's the way life works" sounds to me like a tautology.

Also if other creatures aren't wondering about it, then they are not going through the same thing.

 

[Vanderdonck]

We were designed as slaves and our lifespans are short so we don't figure it out and do something about it.

Hmm. But we have, haven't we? Our lifespans are longer than ever.

But I get your greater point.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

There doesn't have to be a meaning. I'm not looking for a standard explanation. Just interested in opinions about it from a philosophical standpoint.

"Because that's the way life works" sounds to me like a tautology.

Also if other creatures aren't wondering about it, then they are not going through the same thing.

They are too busy trying to survive day to day to worry about any of that.