AFC friend having success, kind of frustrating me

[teddy]

He's a classic nice, church-going, choir boy. Decent looking, but not in the best shape. Dead-end job. Pretty much all he does is play video games.

However.....with all that said, he's been in more relationships than me (four to zero). He just landed another decent looking girl, 8 years older than him, within four days he was already calling her his girlfriend. There was a time a couple years ago when he got PLAYED by a girl...she let him buy all these things for her, he gave her rides, all this when he wasn't even dating her, all this AFC stuff and of course she ended up dating a douchebag and shutting him down. That sent him toward a depressive spiral, but when he re-emerged he was still the same AFC guy.

Heck, he gets more success with online sh!t than me.

It's just frustrating. Makes me think that it's sometimes better to go back to AFCdom...at least it seems that AFC still get SOMETHING. Not saying I will, it's just discouraging.

 

[BraddH]

Afc can be more "alpha" than afcs that are trying to be "alpha".

The fact that you are trying to be something makes you even more afc tha he is. He is just himself. There is no need to try to become alpha. Just understand that life needs attraction and attention and it will transform you. Life is balanced.

 

[teddy]

Afc can be more "alpha" than afcs that are trying to be "alpha".

The fact that you are trying to be something makes you even more afc tha he is. He is just himself. There is no need to try to become alpha. Just understand that life needs attraction and attention and it will transform you. Life is balanced.

That's true, but if I just "myself", I'd be chasing and hounding girls and driving them further and further away.

that's what I used to do in my early years. once I understood that doesn't work, I stopped doing it. Certainly, there must be alpha traits I can learn and apply, even if they aren't necessarily part of myself right now.

 

[BraddH]

That is one extreme of the game and extremes won't work. If you go to the other extreme where you never give her attention, then ur a jerk and that won't work either

 

[teddy]

I wouldn't agree he's happy with himself. He always complains to me that he sees nothing bright in his future and between girlfriends he always complains how he's going to end up alone and not be alive to see grandkids.

But, you know what, I shouldn't be worrying about this. I should be worrying about myself.

 

[marmel75]

Maybe he has a big c0ck? Lmao...

 

[skinnyguy]

He's happy with himself, your not.

I couldn't have said it better myself (except I would have spelled it "you're" instead of "your", lol)

This guy is clearly happy even though he is in a dead end job. You'll need to figure out how to become happy before you start going after pvssy.

 

[Turuwal]

this can be frustrating as all hell, ive been there and i know

the good news is that if you follow the missions in the bible and keep taking steps to better yourself in a year or two you will first start to catch up and then surpass him, while he will still be the same afc he always was

a little story from my time in a hostel in colombia

when i moved in it was really quiet which gave me the best odds of running my own style of game and i got my colombian flag a week into my holiday

a few weeks later it was packed as all hell and my friend with his limitless money supply basically paid for sex by getting some girl everything, at the same time as i was getting my emotions fried by the nonstop parade of people trying to socialise with me when all i wanted was some goddamned sleep

at the end of two months of adapting and learning and getting my a** kicked and refusing to give in i now have the ability to go out on the street by myself and pick up a hot young local girl and bring her back to my hotel room within three hours of meeting her

and he will still have to pay girls for sex

keep the faith brother

 

[VladPatton]

I've said this before. A DJ's biggest competitor is not other DJ, but an AFC.

 

[joker79]

Being a DJ means also have self-respect and choose a high quality woman. An AFC will sacrifice everything , himself included, to get or be in a relationship with his oneitis. But do you think he's the one in control? Even if she eventually get in a relationship with him, do you think she will ever feel the same attraction she would feel for a dj? Or, viceversa, if she accept to be in a relationship with an AFC, do you think she's worth your time and expectations? I judge women from her past boyfriends as well: if she likes being with AFCs (or people I consider AFCs) her values drops massively.

 

[Bossman90]

I wouldn't agree he's happy with himself. He always complains to me that he sees nothing bright in his future and between girlfriends he always complains how he's going to end up alone and not be alive to see grandkids.

But, you know what, I shouldn't be worrying about this. I should be worrying about myself.

if he needs relationships to get laid then he's probably not better than you. men who wait it out for sex, most of the time lack either the common sense of how to arouse a women(could be part of game) or just don't have the drive to get what they want out of life and don't show the girl intent.

 

[Bossman90]

Being a DJ means also have self-respect and choose a high quality woman. An AFC will sacrifice everything , himself included, to get or be in a relationship with his oneitis. But do you think he's the one in control? Even if she eventually get in a relationship with him, do you think she will ever feel the same attraction she would feel for a dj? Or, viceversa, if she accept to be in a relationship with an AFC, do you think she's worth your time and expectations? I judge women from her past boyfriends as well: if she likes being with AFCs (or people I consider AFCs) her values drops massively.

why is it that you people equate things as beta/afc or alpha? the only thing that matters in regards to women is how you behave around them and that you have something going for you. Women honestly don't know the difference between alpha or beta male, they just judge you based on if you bring value to the table or not. His friend obviously has something of value or these *****es wouldn't be talking to him.

 

[joker79]

Women honestly don't know the difference between alpha or beta male.

are you sure? :crackup:

 

[Turuwal]

Actually I thought of a metaphor... any hold'em poker players around here?

Most of the guys you see in the games play loose-passive (fish). They stick around way too long and keep paying chips even when they have no chance. They win big pots of course but only because of the huge amount of chips they put in. These are the betas.

A handful of guys play tight-aggressive (sharks). They only play when the game suits them. In short runs they can get frustrated by the stupid hanging in of the fish, who win a pot with cards that they never should have played in the first place. But in the long run they win. These are the alphas.

Now as anyone in poker knows, the worst thing a shark can do is start mouthing off at the fish who stayed in with a stupid hand and caught a miracle card on the river. All this does is make the fish angry and no one ends up having fun.

So let the fish have their fun. Rest assured that in the long run you will come out ahead.

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Buuuuuuut here's a twist for you. There is one guy who makes money no matter what everyone else does and is pretty much invisible to the players in the game. He doesn't compete, he just takes a tiny cut of everything, so small that no one ever calls him on it. In fact the other players are happy that this guy is taking a few chips; if it wasn't for him the game would never happen in the first place. This guy is called "the house".

I wanna figure out how to be this guy!

 

[LiveFreeX]

He's a classic nice, church-going, choir boy. Decent looking, but not in the best shape. Dead-end job. Pretty much all he does is play video games.

Yeah score one for gamers!

However.....with all that said, he's been in more relationships than me (four to zero).

How old are you, like 18?

He just landed another decent looking girl, 8 years older than him

Not something to be proud of.

Heck, he gets more success with online sh!t than me.

You are doing it wrong, go abroad... infact go straight to the phillipines, you will never want for women again.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

How old is the guy that has a dead end job and has a girlfriend?

 

[CaptainSaveAh0]

Question is why do you care?
Let him do his thing , and you do your thing.

From the sound of this thread, you sound more AFC then him.
You should be happy for your friends successes and maybe ask him for some tips or pointers.
Go out, meet new people, don't worry about what others are doing.

 

[Skyline]

In the end the DJ/man will be on top. However...

I've noticed something, from prior self experience and friends, that most AFC's generally have. They MUST have a girl by any means possible. This means they approach, they try online, they basically do anything possible to meet and be with women. Even sacrifice dignity. All for the wrong reasons obviously. Its not that he has no game or anything its the simple fact he's putting himself out there. Eventually the girl will realize he has unattractive traits but for now he's new and "amazing."

We don't try as hard as AFC's, in fact an AFC with game is technically more feared in the beginning because they won't stop. However this is a small percentage as most AFC's well are just that. Thinking you're the sh*t and nothing can stop you is one great thing, but putting yourself out there is another. Like right now I feel like I'm too good for that, thus giving me really bad approach anxiety. When i first started out i never had that anxiety this bad. Once you learn that balance though, and you're equipped with strong confident mindsets, is when the real fun begins.

 

[DragonBlood]

From the sound of this thread, you sound more AFC then him.

Mind is blown.

Also, chin up teddy!


Frayzer, your never too good to ask a girl out. You know that!

 

[JaegerPilot217]

How old is the guy that has a dead end job and has a girlfriend?