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ok,i will probably rant and rant,but my girlfriend of almost 4 yrs decided to breakup with me 2months ago.we had been having problems but nothing major that normal rships dont go through.she tells me that she feels we dont share the same values,i don't appreciate her,i am arrogant,chauvenistic...a complete character disection as a reason to breakup(it took me a long time to realize that she just wanted to justify..don't we all).

she even said that i was taking her for granted yet there were many men fighting for the chance to prove themselves to her and maker her happy and here i was not appreciating.She started bringing random events that were completely solved and forgotten ages ago,and claimed that i didn't even seem to propose a future for us.(later on i explained and even told her that i wanted to marry her).

I probably did some things that put my seriousness in the relationship in doubt but i later on during the first week of the breakup set the record straight and told her the most intimate aspects of my life and family that were causing me to act and behave as i was mainly out of fear and shame.it had been a hard year and i had to support my family and the burden just stressed me out making me irritable and sending me almost to the point of depression.I probably should have told her this earlier but i am rather private and that aspect of my life i just wasn't ready to share yet...i guess those are some of my trust issues.anyway she still wouldn't hear of it and told me that she had made up her mind and moved on.

that to me sounded very strange,how do you make up your mind without the facts?How can a girl that i loved and who i thought loved me so dearly not give a damn when i finally let her into the most intimate part of my life and just brush me aside?so i think our problems started when she started telling me that a cousin of hers that i had never met or heard off before started asking her if she is appreciated in the relationship..then the cousin who is abroad started wanting to send her clothes..then she was sending pictures to the cousin so that they could see how she really looks so as to get her clothes that are a perfect fit(i actually fell for this!..i took the pictures..feel like an ass)..then she decides to buy another phone so that she can be talking to this cousin directly at a cheaper rate so she says(i also actually fell for this).

Now eventually after we broke up and weeks of me begging and pleading,i just felt that something was off so during one of my pleading visits she left her phone behind as she left the room so i looked through it and i find texts from a friend of hers also coincidentally abroad and they are telling each other how much they miss and love each other.

when i confront her she says the usual,that i invaded her privacy but eventually tells me that it started 2 weeks after we broke up because she felt lonely.and feels nothing for him...she says that they have just been friends for around 3 years though for most of the time he had been persistently asking her out but she declined.plus she adds i have no right to ask since we had broken up.I know this gal she wouldn't just tell anyone she loves them just for show.

may i add that she had been saying when we were still dating albeit in jest that she planned on going abroad for a visit later on this December and had even planned to take her leave days then.Later on after the pleading ended and i regained a bit of self respect i realized that these things didn't add up and it finally hit me that she just saw that the grass was greener on the other side.

she seems pretty sure of where she is going and even was bold enough to tell me that she doesn't plan on breaking up again and that the next one is marriage(yet she claims she is seeing no one for a while).she claims that she doesn't want to date for the next 6months(coincidentally that ends in december) and that she has moved on.she even went on to send me an email affirming that she wants me to move on and that she has already moved on and that she wishes me happiness,love and success in all aspects of my life.

She sends me this email after i spend the night at her place where we talked all night about the rship and slept together(these things happen) and somewhere along the night and in the morning she seems to feel something for me and even went on to say that she had thought that i was someone else the whole time and now she could have misjudged me and she is confused.i thought we were back on track then the next day in that same email she sounds again cold and tells me that even though i claim that i gave changed and have certain better qualities she still believes that she knows me better and that the nasty sides of me which i don't agree with are still there and she doesn't trust it and doesn't see us having a future.oh and yeah she said she can't give me the benefit of the doubt.

i find this hypocritical considering the number of times i have forgiven her after lies she has told me about everything.she lied to me about being a virgin,lied to me about the course she did,lied to me about what the sister did also,where she lived,accepting a facebook friend invitation with a guy who is obviously hitting on her and she even confessed to that...the list goes on and on...eventually she tells me the truth but she always lies first..sometimes for months on end before i confront her for the truth.

now the confusing part and what i also think is rather sadistic is that she went on to tell me that we shouldn't talk or see each other except on her birthday and since she had never done anything for me during my bdays she owed me.i was on my way to hospital that day from her place,possibly for minor surgery and in the same email she plainly tells me 'i hope your hospital experience was fine!'..regards.thats all!wtf!she even called me last week just to find out how i am doing and simple chit chat thats all.i hate these BS mind games...advice
 
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Post your age..
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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less talking...more fu cking other women...and moving on

his girl had a low interest level for a long time, and was wating to find a reason to split up
you may have been BF/GF in your mind ...but in hers she was just stuck with you
 

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Hang on mate, you were with her for four years and still couldn't tell her about supporting your family?????
I'm on your side but have to play devil's advocate here, maybe she had a point.

But anyway, do what the other blokes said, move on, screw as many women as possible. Each meaningless sexual encounter is one step closer to relief from your fvcked up situation.
 

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well..thats why i said..i do accept my not having said some stuff earlier...but one thing i realized is that trust is built and earned..after reading and analyzing the stuff i just felt deep down that she was never really there(emotionally)..so that could be it...plus she has plenty of lies in her cabinet too that would never have come out had i not insisted...so you see..i think deep down i just felt she was not trustworthy or mature enough to share that part of my life....and about the supporting part..it was only in the last 6 months before the breakup..not the entire 4 years...

i still love the girl..but not desperate as i would have been before..i realize my faults but the thing is ..she made her choice even before she knew the facts..so i am pretty sure that had little to do with it..

and anyway even to me,if she confessed something that deep to me..i would be moved and understand....i think its called Loving someone.

i forgave and looked aside when she did a lot of crap to me..but maybe thats where my mistake begun...
 

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...she said she can't give me the benefit of the doubt.

i find this hypocritical considering the number of times i have forgiven her after lies she has told me about everything.she lied to me about being a virgin,lied to me about the course she did,lied to me about what the sister did also,where she lived,accepting a facebook friend invitation with a guy who is obviously hitting on her and she even confessed to that...the list goes on and on...eventually she tells me the truth but she always lies first..sometimes for months on end before i confront her for the truth.
Compulsive lying is a serious character defect and one which disqualifies the liar as a potential LTR or wife , or certainly should . In addition, liars are frequently cheaters too.
Forgiving such a woman also indicates a significant shortcoming in your self regard . Your willingness to persist with this woman for 4 years and trade your self respect for sex, affection and 'love' is deeply disturbing.
 

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wow,jophil...as blunt as that was...i think i painfully have to agree to that...i must have held myself in seriously low regard and esteem..that i have to accept,when she met me i was at a pretty low point in my life,maybe i looked at her as my saviour and was willing to overlook and accept any bs from her thinking that only she would accept me!..wow did i just shrink myself?i think i set myself up from the beginning and eventualy she started to treat me as chump...i think thats what hurts the most..i loved unconditionally/foolishly and i got nothing in the end but disrespect...that feeling will take time to go away..i am feeling pretty worthless and down right about now
 

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anyone with an emotional off switch?easier said than done to forget about someone who has put you through so much **** but gota get rid of the cancer.

i agree i realize now 2 months after the breakup that i really should have left her everytime she dented my trust and undermined the relationship..but you know what they say love is blind..i would say fully crippled!eventually i paid the price for my naivety.

Well i guess its time to get on that rough road to recovery and healing.thanks all,this forum is the best,wish i would have discovered it earlier,it would have saved me so much grief and i would probably be telling a different story right now!
 

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anyone with an emotional off switch?easier said than done to forget about someone who has put you through so much **** but gota get rid of the cancer.
Most of the guys who are regular contributors on the MM forum have walked in your shoes, fallen and stumbled into the pits of emotional hell . We also, like you, believed that worshipping a woman, and being understanding and tolerant would guarantee her devotion and loyalty in return . When she acted with increasing disrespect and contempt we merely amped up the fawning and became more timid, passive and 'forgiving' .
And then it all crashed down and we were left cut, bleeding and bewildered.

WE did it ONCE, and then we learned HERE how not to do it again.. Out of that experience of pain and confusion we found wisdom and the courage to change our ways .

Stick around - you may just have an awakening.
 

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^^^^^^ Very true. I'm going to send this to a guy from work who stood there looking like he'd been crucified when the woman he'd been fawning over (but never had a chance) started kissing some random guy she met at the pub right in front of him. Poor bastard but he brought it on himself and she showed her true colours. But don't they all in the end????
 

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OP----

It seems to me that your journey needs to start from within....

Look deeply into your-'self' and your behaviour that led you into this deal.....

You made decisions and took actions that got you where you are today.....

Don't point to the chick as the problem first (though I'm sure she didn't help...and is probably a bad choice)....

Look at yourself, begin to see what you are doing, begin to change how you perceive and then handle situations like this.....

Most men are CHOOSING the horrible relationships they find themselves in.....

Better yourself and your women choices and situations will become better as well.....

Read my signature....expore the Archives and the DJ Bible.....Read Pook and Antidump......

Educate and re-invent yourself......

Over and Out.
 

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the journey has already begun..The change has started with me.

Its funny,for a long time i did practice the dj principles without even knowing it,but somehow i regressed!i gues every guy has his poison and match!

Its also interesting she was just the kind of chic i told myself i would never date!but damn she was sexy,and played hard to get...this just made me want her more thinking she must be a decent gal if she played hard to get and doesnt give in to men easily...

i just found my awakening,i am def sticking around and i will even pass this to my pal in a similar situation.this forum should be the bible to all men..we have to take back our power..educate
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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